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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject:

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I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.
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I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.


Yeah, not really a controversial position to take. But it is emblematic of the all or nothing attitude that exists within the fan base at large.
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On Sportsnation, Byron was just asked if D'Angelo is part of the Lakers' future plans and replied with a flat "no"

Why do they even ask him about D'angelo anymore?

EDIT: He was asked if D'Angelo is the future of the Lakers. I understand why he would say no if that is how the question was phrased.
lol what if he knows something that we don't. Like Magic is for sure going to trade him or something


Byron is best buddies with Magic, works out with him every morning. Of course he knows what Magic is thinking. I'd like to hear exactly what Byron said.

I'm scared (bleep) less that they are gonna do something stupid with D'Angelo in the offseason.


Wouldn't surprise me.


Magic talking patience is his version of Mitch talking contention during the rebuild. It's the stuff you say, but what you do and how you do it very quickly becomes a better tell about you. Magic didn't jump in right at the deadline like he did because he's anxious to patiently wait out the development of the youth over the next few years. He didn't make a publicized, "we're moving Lou today, on day 1" edict to let everyone know he's going to move deliberately and carefully either.

This is a guy who intends to put his stamp on things very quickly and very clearly, and if you think that's just draft a guy and wait, I think you will not be happy. He's going to look to make substantial moves. I'm going to give him and Pelinka the benefit of seeing what their strategy re moves and who and how much they will pay, but I'm pretty dead certain they've got a splash in mind this offseason.
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Omar Little wrote:
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Mdstgreen wrote:
lakersfan22 wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:
On Sportsnation, Byron was just asked if D'Angelo is part of the Lakers' future plans and replied with a flat "no"

Why do they even ask him about D'angelo anymore?

EDIT: He was asked if D'Angelo is the future of the Lakers. I understand why he would say no if that is how the question was phrased.
lol what if he knows something that we don't. Like Magic is for sure going to trade him or something


Byron is best buddies with Magic, works out with him every morning. Of course he knows what Magic is thinking. I'd like to hear exactly what Byron said.

I'm scared (bleep) less that they are gonna do something stupid with D'Angelo in the offseason.


Wouldn't surprise me.


Magic talking patience is his version of Mitch talking contention during the rebuild. It's the stuff you say, but what you do and how you do it very quickly becomes a better tell about you. Magic didn't jump in right at the deadline like he did because he's anxious to patiently wait out the development of the youth over the next few years. He didn't make a publicized, "we're moving Lou today, on day 1" edict to let everyone know he's going to move deliberately and carefully either.

This is a guy who intends to put his stamp on things very quickly and very clearly, and if you think that's just draft a guy and wait, I think you will not be happy. He's going to look to make substantial moves. I'm going to give him and Pelinka the benefit of seeing what their strategy re moves and who and how much they will pay, but I'm pretty dead certain they've got a splash in mind this offseason.


Agreed. For better or worse (hopefully for better).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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He didn't incorrectly use anything. He put the numbers in the context to carry his point a view. I use analytics and stats as well, I don't all the time because they don't tell the whole story and I can skew them as I see fits to my point. I mean was Derek Fisher not our point guard? Is Kyrie Irving not the point guard for the Cavs. DLO was playmaking as a shooting guard. Statistics show, last time I checked DLO's better off the ball. That's half the truth in my opinion. There's things you can't record on stats like ones mental approach to the game. He came in looking to score, while getting his team involved. He was much more aggressive this game, the whole game - where as DLO told us the reason why when talking about the difference between shooting guard and point guard. He seemed more comfortable and confident as a shooting guard than a point guard.


Can you be playing PG and playing off of the ball?


Does off ball mean you're never on ball?


Exactly. It's a largely semantical argument. Russell was getting shots off of the same type of actions last night that he's been getting all year. The difference is that the guy on the other side of the court also had ball skills, rather than just being a spot up shooter like Nick Young.


BTW, the statistics (ironic in this context) that show him to be "better" "off ball" are simply the statistics that show him to be a higher percentage catch and shoot guy vs off the dribble. Of course, what's lost in that is that almost every player in the league is better catching and shooting than they are pulling up off the dribble, because one is an easier shot than the other.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
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Mdstgreen wrote:
lakersfan22 wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:
On Sportsnation, Byron was just asked if D'Angelo is part of the Lakers' future plans and replied with a flat "no"

Why do they even ask him about D'angelo anymore?

EDIT: He was asked if D'Angelo is the future of the Lakers. I understand why he would say no if that is how the question was phrased.
lol what if he knows something that we don't. Like Magic is for sure going to trade him or something


Byron is best buddies with Magic, works out with him every morning. Of course he knows what Magic is thinking. I'd like to hear exactly what Byron said.

I'm scared (bleep) less that they are gonna do something stupid with D'Angelo in the offseason.


Wouldn't surprise me.


Magic talking patience is his version of Mitch talking contention during the rebuild. It's the stuff you say, but what you do and how you do it very quickly becomes a better tell about you. Magic didn't jump in right at the deadline like he did because he's anxious to patiently wait out the development of the youth over the next few years. He didn't make a publicized, "we're moving Lou today, on day 1" edict to let everyone know he's going to move deliberately and carefully either.

This is a guy who intends to put his stamp on things very quickly and very clearly, and if you think that's just draft a guy and wait, I think you will not be happy. He's going to look to make substantial moves. I'm going to give him and Pelinka the benefit of seeing what their strategy re moves and who and how much they will pay, but I'm pretty dead certain they've got a splash in mind this offseason.


These type of moves are hard to pull off for veteran GMs, let alone newcomers. If it was so easy to just move around assets and propel yourself into contention, why didn't other rebuilding teams like the Jazz, Nuggets, Twolves etc. take that route?

This is my biggest worry.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Mdstgreen wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Mdstgreen wrote:
lakersfan22 wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:
On Sportsnation, Byron was just asked if D'Angelo is part of the Lakers' future plans and replied with a flat "no"

Why do they even ask him about D'angelo anymore?

EDIT: He was asked if D'Angelo is the future of the Lakers. I understand why he would say no if that is how the question was phrased.
lol what if he knows something that we don't. Like Magic is for sure going to trade him or something


Byron is best buddies with Magic, works out with him every morning. Of course he knows what Magic is thinking. I'd like to hear exactly what Byron said.

I'm scared (bleep) less that they are gonna do something stupid with D'Angelo in the offseason.


Wouldn't surprise me.


Magic talking patience is his version of Mitch talking contention during the rebuild. It's the stuff you say, but what you do and how you do it very quickly becomes a better tell about you. Magic didn't jump in right at the deadline like he did because he's anxious to patiently wait out the development of the youth over the next few years. He didn't make a publicized, "we're moving Lou today, on day 1" edict to let everyone know he's going to move deliberately and carefully either.

This is a guy who intends to put his stamp on things very quickly and very clearly, and if you think that's just draft a guy and wait, I think you will not be happy. He's going to look to make substantial moves. I'm going to give him and Pelinka the benefit of seeing what their strategy re moves and who and how much they will pay, but I'm pretty dead certain they've got a splash in mind this offseason.


These type of moves are hard to pull off for veteran GMs, let alone newcomers. If it was so easy to just move around assets and propel yourself into contention, why didn't other rebuilding teams like the Jazz, Nuggets, Twolves etc. take that route?

This is my biggest worry.


Well, this is exactly my concern with guys like Magic (along with a propensity for seeing the game through the lens of their own career and time).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject:

i hope Dlo don't go back to shooting poorly and TOing alot against the Clippers. Keep up with the good play. I want him to burn the Blazers though when we play them. Lilliard needs to be put into his place cuz of the confrontation he had with Dlo last time they went off against eachother. I don't want him to force bad shots. But just play aggressive and shoot a high % and take care of the bball.
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i hope Dlo don't go back to shooting poorly and TOing alot against the Clippers. Keep up with the good play. I want him to burn the Blazers though when we play them. Lilliard needs to be put into his place cuz of the confrontation he had with Dlo last time they went off against eachother. I don't want him to force bad shots. But just play aggressive and shoot a high % and take care of the bball.


Not defending Lillard because I don't care what DLO says or does to him, but the man was catching elbows from DLO. Was he supposed to just accept it?

But as a Lakers fan, elbow him all you want DLO. If the refs aren't going to call it, what do I care?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:09 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:

I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.


I've always thought of D'lo as a guy you put next to "The Guy". Pau Gasol is a prime example.
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tox wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:

I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.


I've always thought of D'lo as a guy you put next to "The Guy". Pau Gasol is a prime example.


Yup. Scottie Pippen archetype.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject:

I think that DLo has Kyrie potential and I don't necessarily view Kyrie as "The Guy" either, and that's perfectly fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 pm    Post subject:

Ask and you shall receive! Pretty sure I was the first view on this guy's YouTube post 3 minutes ago. Anyways, not to bury the lead, but here is the latest on Byron Scott talking about D'Angelo Russell's role as a shooting guard and his future as a Laker. Curtesy if SportsNation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPanoLOud1Q&sns=em
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[quote="The Logo"]I think that DLo has Kyrie potential and I don't necessarily view Kyrie as "The Guy" either, and that's perfectly fine.[quote]

Yes, I can see that. FWIW I see Ingram as more of a #3 guy...pieces falling nicely in place.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
Ask and you shall receive! Pretty sure I was the first view on this guy's YouTube post 3 minutes ago. Anyways, not to bury the lead, but here is the latest on Byron Scott talking about D'Angelo Russell's role as a shooting guard and his future as a Laker. Curtesy if SportsNation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPanoLOud1Q&sns=em

Byron had me up until the end there
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AFireInside619 wrote:
Ask and you shall receive! Pretty sure I was the first view on this guy's YouTube post 3 minutes ago. Anyways, not to bury the lead, but here is the latest on Byron Scott talking about D'Angelo Russell's role as a shooting guard and his future as a Laker. Curtesy if SportsNation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPanoLOud1Q&sns=em

Byron had me up until the end there


Byron can't help himself. Too much pride to admit he was wrong.
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I think DLo's ceiling is as a #1 option, but he's going to need to take a leap into elite shooting (45+/40+/85+) territory to get there.
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tox wrote:
3'Angelo wrote:

I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.


I've always thought of D'lo as a guy you put next to "The Guy". Pau Gasol is a prime example.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
I think DLo's ceiling is as a #1 option, but he's going to need to take a leap into elite shooting (45+/40+/85+) territory to get there.


Yup. Some players (especially on our team) do not have #1 option ceilings.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:28 pm    Post subject:

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3'Angelo wrote:

I don't think there is anything to worry about. I believe that the question was "Is D'Angelo the future of the Lakers" as in is he the superstar to carry them forward and Byron replied to that with a flat "no". I did not watch this segment myself, I just had a friend tell me this over text so this may be not be so accurate.


If that's the question, then I'd say no as well. And I'm pretty high on Russell. Nothing to see here.


I've always thought of D'lo as a guy you put next to "The Guy". Pau Gasol is a prime example.


That's about where I have him as well.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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I think DLo's ceiling is as a #1 option, but he's going to need to take a leap into elite shooting (45+/40+/85+) territory to get there.


Yup. Some players (especially on our team) do not have #1 option ceilings.


I also agree with this, if "ceiling" means just about everything breaking the right way, which it rarely does.
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I think DLo's ceiling is as a #1 option, but he's going to need to take a leap into elite shooting (45+/40+/85+) territory to get there.


Yup. Some players (especially on our team) do not have #1 option ceilings.


I also agree with this, if "ceiling" means just about everything breaking the right way, which it rarely does.


Yes, everything breaking right for DLO means he'd be a taller Steph Curry with James Harden's ability to get to the rim. So yes, 1st option ceiling.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject:

As a starter, since the All-Star Break

9 games
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22.7 points
5.6 assists
3.1 rebounds
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Dlo's peak is a prime Manu and a prime Manu was amazing.
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As a starter, since the All-Star Break

9 games
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Very good numbers and those even include the games where he came off the bench and played like (bleep).
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