I think something that goes unnoticed is his demeanor. Some folks say he's immature. Some say he's lazy. Whatever the narrative is, this kid has been unfairly targeted and critiqued since day 1. National media skewered him. Our own jacka#% Mason and Ireland kill him. He's just had a rough 2 seasons and he still is coming. I find that impressive. _________________ You mystified at what exists inside
How scrutinized and unfairly maligned he is has made him my favorite player going forward. Really rooting for him.
Might be my first jersey cop of any non-Kobe player
Hope he's a couple time allstar man, just to rub it in people's faces
even if he makes all star teams the haters will still be there. kobe's haters never stopped hating until the man retired...
some people just refuse to enjoy things _________________ substance over style
dlo's passes were on the point last night. could've had few more assist had his teammates converted. seems like he was utlizing his crossover dribbles alot more and attacking the rim more. that's a great sight. hope he finish the season on a good note.
I would like to see him playing this way too. I never bought the concept that a PG can stay on the perimeter without attacking the defense. You can't stay the whole game waiting for someone getting free behind a screen or using one yourself to shoot it. I couldn't watch the first three quarters and he didn't play particularly well the 4th, but I like what I saw in the highlights. A bit of unpredictability is a must.
Yeah but how many 70 point games does he have? Checkmate
Where does he rank in blow by speed and flash%?
We have to separate things.
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
How scrutinized and unfairly maligned he is has made him my favorite player going forward. Really rooting for him.
Might be my first jersey cop of any non-Kobe player
Hope he's a couple time allstar man, just to rub it in people's faces
even if he makes all star teams the haters will still be there. kobe's haters never stopped hating until the man retired...
some people just refuse to enjoy things
I think people would be so shocked and having to backtrack on all the bad things said/narratives - it would definetely be a moment.
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
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JerryMagicKobe wrote:
nash wrote:
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
At what age can we start caring about his pre-all star game numbers?
Now. He's been producing before the all star break, especially when given minutes. _________________ LeBron, AD, & _________. Stay tuned.
"...there was a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert and all of a sudden, bread came down from heaven,” Pelinka said. “That’s kind of what today feels like for us to have KCP join.”
Yeah but how many 70 point games does he have? Checkmate
Where does he rank in blow by speed and flash%?
We have to separate things.
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
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That's some serious cognitive dissonance Nash. But it's OK. Good Lakers players have always had their haters (even Pau was massacred here and he was the best center in the league from 2008-2010). So I suppose you have a purpose, though you'll need to work on your argument.
best young pg in the league for sure. hands down.
it's such a shame that in this draft, we don't have a superstar SG prospect, or we would be able to complete our future lineup.
Russell has not been playing PG so how is this relevant? Where does he rank among SGs
First game he played SG was 3 games ago - not the game he was reinserted in the starting lineup. And I haven't watched the last two games, so I'm not sure if he was the lead guard in those games or not.
He's predominantly been the lead guard/PG since the all star break
They call D'Angelo a 'shooting guard' but he's doing the exact same things he did as a point guard, and usually has the ball in his hands and is still making plays.
Watch this video and tell me if you see a real difference
The main difference I see.. is that Russell's handle has gotten tighter and as a result of that he gets to use his speed a bit more as well as his shiftiness.
The handle and speed Russell shows here because of that handle catching up to NBA speed where he can execute it puts his upside at a place that's scary for the rest of the league and wonderful for us. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
I disagree. His statistical increase is post ASB. That is a small sample. Let's not forget this guy was putting up single digits and even a 0 in games earlier this year.
You brought up him scoring 0 points early this year without any context as to why.
Yeah. I do wonder if the goal was to try and get one past folks to suit the agenda, or, if he was honestly just scrolling through game logs to find something worth using as evidence.
Either way, it's disingenuous and transparent.
No, I remember him playing a full game and doing nothing, but that was my mistake to say 0. He actually scored 2 full points in full, uninjured game. Looks like you guys got me, now that he's clearly never skunked a game, it's HOF for this kid
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
Just dripping with venom.
This is why I tell good is not good enough for passionate Dlo's supporters where anything shy of greatness is percieved as venom. The guy is good, period, when you bring the other guards from past few seasons it becomes clear that it doesn't makes sense telling he is the best guard in years since no player from this period is a difference maker at this point. GT uses the term crazy talk at Imgram's thread, Dlo is playing really well, but there are some crazy talk going on here too. If you think Mudiay, Dunn, Booker and LaVine is a good crop of guards then I understand your indignation, but if you like me think there is not going to be the next Stephen Curry among them you are going to see I just have my feet on the ground.
There is no question Russell is one of the best guards from past few seasons, but we have to be aware that there aren't guards 23 and under helping their teams to win more games. I mean, Russell, Mudiay, Booker, Dunn, LaVine ... it is not about "blow by speed", the lack of athleticism is one of Dlo's shortcomings, but all those young guards have their flaws. LaVine missing something between his ears, Dunn can't shoot, Booker is one dimensional and just like Dlo is not efficient and Mudiay at this point "is a flaw". Dough Christie was the best guard from Shaq class. I'm not comparing him to Dlo, I'm just trying to say we have to talk about Dlo based on his good production post all star, not comparing him to underwhelming high draft picks. There is really not a guard you look and tell he is going to be an all star since Lillard.
I like the way Dlo is playing and his stats are pretty good, that should be enough.
Just dripping with venom.
This is why I tell good is not good enough for passionate Dlo's supporters where anything shy of greatness is percieved as venom. The guy is good, period, when you bring the other guards from past few seasons it becomes clear that it doesn't makes sense telling he is the best guard in years since no player from this period is a difference maker at this point. GT uses the term crazy talk at Imgram's thread, Dlo is playing really well, but there are some crazy talk going on here too. If you think Mudiay, Dunn, Booker and LaVine is a good crop of guards then I understand your indignation, but if you like me think there is not going to be the next Stephen Curry among them you are going to see I just have my feet on the ground.
Yeah I agree with you. He's good but it's like if you speak level headed and tempered, people come out with pitchforks. Even mods sadly.
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