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Mike@LG
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| Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism?
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| Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
I'm just trying to get peple to see that Russell being a great player doesn't have to be done alone. CP3 has made a living using screens to get his mid range shot, to get his big men dunks, and if defenders don't play it right, he finds wide open 3 pt shooters. When that doesn't work, he shoots a deadly mid range shot.
I fail to see what CP3 does that Russell can't/won't do with consistency as he develops. |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
Chris Paul had 40 vert? I've never heard that you have link to his pre draft combine numbers? |
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| Nightwalker wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
Chris Paul had 40 vert? I've never heard that you have link to his pre draft combine numbers? |
DX has his max vert at 38.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Paul-14/links/ |
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| ocho wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
Chris Paul had 40 vert? I've never heard that you have link to his pre draft combine numbers? |
DX has his max vert at 38.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Paul-14/links/ |
Btw, Russell's max vert is 39. |
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| ocho wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
Chris Paul had 40 vert? I've never heard that you have link to his pre draft combine numbers? |
DX has his max vert at 38.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Paul-14/links/ |
That's interesting I guess forget how athletic younger Paul was. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
Chris Paul had 40 vert? I've never heard that you have link to his pre draft combine numbers? |
DX has his max vert at 38.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-Paul-14/links/ |
Btw, Russell's max vert is 39. |
I think you see this part of Russell's repertoire when he's rebounding. He grabbed one board yesterday where he got unexpectedly high. The thing about a max vert is that you get a running start, and max speed isn't really how he plays on offense. |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | CBaller8 wrote: | | I think the lack of creating his own offense will keep him from being a superstar. All-Star level player is his ceiling. |
I'm not predicting super star status, but think of what you're saying. Now ask yourself, how often does CP3 operate without using a screen to get started? Not very often in L.A., and not very often in New Orleans. Is he a superstar? |
I think Russell more athletic than CP3 and Paul never had great athleticism but he he still a great player and arguebly best PG today. |
The guy who was of the quickest in his draft class next to Ray Felton and Deron Williams with a 40" vert never had great athleticism? |
I think some people cant tell the difference between playing using brains and skill vs having to rely on athleticism. CP3 was a supreme athlete for his size in his younger says. Its what I keep trying to tell people about Russell. He is a good athlete. He just doesnt have to rely on it because hes so instinctive when it comes to playing. |
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he plays at a trot. under control. the way some people talk about his "lack of athleticism", you'd think he was a cripple.
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it's so (bleep) beautiful: https://vine.co/v/eEWl5JQhPE3
the ball floats for a fleeting second at the apex of his arc before splashing through the nylon like an olympic diver... made me shed a single tear at work. |
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LoyalLakerfan44
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Russell plays smooth like Clyde the glyde Walt Frazier. Some guys do things without a lot of hoopla, and that is what I see in Russell. |
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AllorNothing
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so russell has a 39" vertical? He could be dunking left and right with his height.  |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| shotclock24 wrote: | it's so (bleep) beautiful: https://vine.co/v/eEWl5JQhPE3
the ball floats for a fleeting second at the apex of his arc before splashing through the nylon like an olympic diver... made me shed a single tear at work. |
What is Russell doing on vine? Why isn't he in the gym working on his jumpshot? |
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For those worried about not having a distributor in the 2nd unit, that's what Huertas is there for.
Need to develop the Russell, Randle, Clarkson chemistry. Lou and Nick will still get good looks from Marcelo  |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Mindripper2000 wrote: | | shotclock24 wrote: | it's so (bleep) beautiful: https://vine.co/v/eEWl5JQhPE3
the ball floats for a fleeting second at the apex of his arc before splashing through the nylon like an olympic diver... made me shed a single tear at work. |
What is Russell doing on vine? Why isn't he in the gym working on his jumpshot? |
I laugh at this every time  |
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| anpherknee wrote: | | Mindripper2000 wrote: | | shotclock24 wrote: | it's so (bleep) beautiful: https://vine.co/v/eEWl5JQhPE3
the ball floats for a fleeting second at the apex of his arc before splashing through the nylon like an olympic diver... made me shed a single tear at work. |
What is Russell doing on vine? Why isn't he in the gym working on his jumpshot? |
I laugh at this every time |
It's the new "has to be careful" and "it's actually kinda easy" meme here.
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To me, one of Russell's best passes was an almost full court pass to Black which Black fumbled.
Anyone know where I can get a highlight of that pass? |
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Two things... hard to remember Ray Felton ever being a quick guard. Secondly... speaking of Ray Felton... trade with Dallas... Felton for Nick Young.
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| GonzagaAlum wrote: | | Two things... hard to remember Ray Felton ever being a quick guard. Secondly... speaking of Ray Felton... trade with Dallas... Felton for Nick Young. |
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would rather keep Young than do that deal.
At least Young is alive to play...and isn't fat.
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| Megaton wrote: | | GonzagaAlum wrote: | | Two things... hard to remember Ray Felton ever being a quick guard. Secondly... speaking of Ray Felton... trade with Dallas... Felton for Nick Young. |
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would rather keep Young than do that deal.
At least Young is alive to play...and isn't fat. |
Young is playing well, I'd rather keep him too.
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| I think i have never seen young miss that mid range jumper at the corner of the FT line when hes coming off a pick by the baseline. This guy has MAJOR talent. Too bad he never cared enough. |
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| watchME wrote: | | I think i have never seen young miss that mid range jumper at the corner of the FT line when hes coming off a pick by the baseline. This guy has MAJOR talent. Too bad he never cared enough. |
Yeah, one thing I noted is that when Young comes off a curl or screen, he's getting the ball in the right place and time vs last year (either not at all or too late usually), leading to a smooth catch and shoot.
Young is a very good catch and shoot guy, and the more of those he gets and the less, "here, take the ball and get yourself a shot" touches, the better. |
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| GonzagaAlum wrote: | | Two things... hard to remember Ray Felton ever being a quick guard. Secondly... speaking of Ray Felton... trade with Dallas... Felton for Nick Young. |
He wasn't always pudgy, especially out of UNC.
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| 24 wrote: | | watchME wrote: | | I think i have never seen young miss that mid range jumper at the corner of the FT line when hes coming off a pick by the baseline. This guy has MAJOR talent. Too bad he never cared enough. |
Yeah, one thing I noted is that when Young comes off a curl or screen, he's getting the ball in the right place and time vs last year (either not at all or too late usually), leading to a smooth catch and shoot.
Young is a very good catch and shoot guy, and the more of those he gets and the less, "here, take the ball and get yourself a shot" touches, the better. |
Yeah but good luck telling Young to basically never dribble again. 
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| Megaton wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | watchME wrote: | | I think i have never seen young miss that mid range jumper at the corner of the FT line when hes coming off a pick by the baseline. This guy has MAJOR talent. Too bad he never cared enough. |
Yeah, one thing I noted is that when Young comes off a curl or screen, he's getting the ball in the right place and time vs last year (either not at all or too late usually), leading to a smooth catch and shoot.
Young is a very good catch and shoot guy, and the more of those he gets and the less, "here, take the ball and get yourself a shot" touches, the better. |
Yeah but good luck telling Young to basically never dribble again. |
I know you're joking, but sometimes it's oK for him to attack off the dribble. |
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