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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:36 am    Post subject:

When the DAR trade is judged in future it probably won't be about Lonzo versus DAR, who should Lakers have kept?

But rather should they have kept both? Just the way that is the only interesting question about Harden's trade to Houston by OKC now five years down the line.'

Was selling him early to have a chance at PG13 / LeBron coming to Lakers worth it??

Of course if DAR is a total bust no one will be talking about this at all or it will just be all about kudos to Lakers ... but right now I don't expect that
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DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me
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I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject:

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I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.


What line was the most revealing? And I honestly have no idea how you can read his personality to that extent. I don't think I agree. I just think he's like any typical 19-21 year old.
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justsomelakerfan wrote:
55 wrote:
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DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me


Generalizing "You guys" is not very proper.
I find it interesting that someone who calls himself a Dlo homer for life can tell others to let it go. Maybe you should've let it go the day he was no longer a Laker?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject:

akk7 wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
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55 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
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singlecamVTEC wrote:
I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.


What line was the most revealing? And I honestly have no idea how you can read his personality to that extent. I don't think I agree. I just think he's like any typical 19-21 year old.


It would be dishonest if we don't admit that we all thought Luke was the perfect coach for Dlo, especially after having to endure the Byron era.
If he needed a warm loving coach who would cuddle him with structure, then the trade makes even more sense.
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Even beyond the Lakers grave he still seems to haunt.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
55 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
Username wrote:
singlecamVTEC wrote:
I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.

You stipulate what is entirely unknowable as fact, then apply those facts to a psychological profile that is also unknowable.
So, in fairness to what we will never know, we could also suggest that Russell was a young man with an inflated sense of entitlement, who was not humble enough to take direction and lost the faith of those around him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject:

kevin61 wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
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55 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
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singlecamVTEC wrote:
I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.

You stipulate what is entirely unknowable as fact, then apply those facts to a psychological profile that is also unknowable.
So, in fairness to what we will never know, we could also suggest that Russell was a young man with an inflated sense of entitlement, who was not humble enough to take direction and lost the faith of those around him.


You summarized my thoughts exactly. Sure OL's take could be correct, but IMO there's way too much reaching/guesswork involved there. One would really need to know the kid personally to get all that. Just as his take about the situation could be correct, yours could be as well.

I see both sides. It's all random stipulations from our end though. Both sides probably have different perspectives and it's probably somewhere in the middle.

It was interesting to hear that the Lakers have been considering moving him for months. The new regime just took over in February. Traded him in June. If I had to guess they came in wanting to move on from him.

Fresh start for all parties. Also living in NYC, I finally have some reason to go catch some games for cheap at Barclays, so I'm excited about that. The Nets aren't good at all, but I like what they are building. Also Barclays is a really nice arena, so I'm glad to have an excuse to go out there a few times now.
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Calm, peeps. Omar was one of his most visible supporters when the trade went down. He didn't say anything remotely controversial there. Russell is a human being, not a faultless diety. He can make a mistake every now and then just like any of us and no one's saying he's a bad guy because of it. His mistakes (gasp!) are relatively minor compared to Van Exel for example. Or Ceballos. I was for the trade and not simply because he wasn't my favorite, but I agree with Omar's very measured take there, even though we disagree on the value returned. I do agree that rebranded Jersey could be good for him, I said that on the night thereof. He himself just stated as much in that interview. That should be a hint that he knows that he wasn't a fit for LA and vice versa. There's common ground to be found in this situation, but it won't happen with 1-line retorts.
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When the DAR trade is judged in future it probably won't be about Lonzo versus DAR, who should Lakers have kept?

But rather should they have kept both? Just the way that is the only interesting question about Harden's trade to Houston by OKC now five years down the line.'

Was selling him early to have a chance at PG13 / LeBron coming to Lakers worth it??

Of course if DAR is a total bust no one will be talking about this at all or it will just be all about kudos to Lakers ... but right now I don't expect that


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kevin61 wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
55 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
Username wrote:
singlecamVTEC wrote:
I think y'all reading in too much about him not calling Lonzo by his name lol.

Good interview, and do wish him the best out there in Nets land.


You think he doesn't know Lonzo Ball's name?

"That guy, that kid"

Woj: "You mean Lonzo Ball?"

"Yeah."


just shows how immature and childish he still is.


I can see a Legion of Doom meeting with Fox, Fultz, & DLo all calling Zo 'That Kid'

Hey DLo...you're like 2 years older than 'That Kid'


I loved it when Kobe referred to Raja Bell as a "kid" though he's older than Kobe.


Kobe referred to Raja as a kid to insult and belittle him.
You think there was the same intent here? Maybe.


DLo tweeted last year, "This Lonzo kid low key nice". He knows his name, trust.

This was the only statement that made me wince. I hate the use of "brand", but that's when anyone uses it lest they actually have one.

DLO: "I don't really care either though. I still have a brand I'm still trying to you know... at the end of the day I don't care what people say about me. The feeling is mutual."

The most obnoxious thing he said on record was the postgame where Ireland asked him why he was playing better than he was 2 games prior and he replied, "I have absolutely no idea..." It was a little bit smug the way he said it, sorry yinoma2001. He hurt me, yinoma2001... Ireland tried to help him out of that and he repeated it. You should probably care to know the answer to such a question as a pro, just sayin. That preceded the "You seem up" quip. Those kinds of things give off the appearance that you're flippant and nonchalant about your craft, as does pointing out your brand. Not a good look if you have a regime change where they're demanding in clear language that they expect hard work from the kiddies (and even Julius is towing the line). It may not save Julius in the end, but he's coming from "I have a young wife and a newborn, I don't want to overturn the apple cart right now, I'd better get going." He's on a higher rung of the game of life than D'Lo is right now.

The Lou Williams thing was worth a chuckle. He doesn't know what a journeyman is. That's just a hint at DLo's "youngness".


That dlo line was probably the most revealing if you've been following him closely. Yes he does care. He cares a lot. As I've said before, I think he's extremely sensitive (and very socially awkward, almost add or spectrum-ish, or both), and the culture shock of Byron, a number of fans who didn't lime the pick, and a media circus that wanted himnto be engaging yet also wanted to play the wrong pick/struggling angle, were more than be was prepared to handle. And like a lot of immature men, he tried handling it by withdrawing, being stubborn, partying. Anything to feel in control. It's clear he was even more mentally than physically immature, and still is, but is seeming to work on both.

I figured Luke would be good for him, but Luke is more hands off and freedom, which coming out of Byron world was not what he really needed. Byron gave him structure without love, and Walton seemed to give him love without structure. He needs a dad for a coach. Maybe Atkinson will be that. Kid has a ton of talent and an assassin's moxy, so I hope he is able to get the rest on track.

You stipulate what is entirely unknowable as fact, then apply those facts to a psychological profile that is also unknowable.
So, in fairness to what we will never know, we could also suggest that Russell was a young man with an inflated sense of entitlement, who was not humble enough to take direction and lost the faith of those around him.


Yes, those words like probably, i think, and it seems are definitely there tonstipulate my opi ion as fact.

Fwiw, I've followed him pretty closely, and have talked with people who have interacted with him, so my take, while speculative, is educated somewhat. I also agree that he's cocky, and also very immature. Just think it was a confluence of things thst didn't help though. I don't, for example, think it turns out that way in San Antonio.
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DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me


Generalizing "You guys" is not very proper.
I find it interesting that someone who calls himself a Dlo homer for life can tell others to let it go. Maybe you should've let it go the day he was no longer a Laker?


Why, we can't be fans of players who aren't Lakers? What a load of hogwash. I find it interesting that you fail to grasp the very simple message justsomelakerfan stated. Basically simple. DLO is gone, you can ignore him or even dislike him, but you have no right to tell others to act the way you want to act. If he wants to be a fan for life, why the hell do you care? God complex? Let others enjoy whatever the hell they want to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject:

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You stipulate what is entirely unknowable as fact, then apply those facts to a psychological profile that is also unknowable.
So, in fairness to what we will never know, we could also suggest that Russell was a young man with an inflated sense of entitlement, who was not humble enough to take direction and lost the faith of those around him.


So you are convinced that no one here at LG has actually known DLO? Expand your world a little, there are those here who do know exactly what they post about. Nothing is "unknowable".
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject:

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Fwiw, I've followed him pretty closely, and have talked with people who have interacted with him, so my take, while speculative, is educated somewhat.


You got any anecdotes that haven't been aired already? What was the overall take of the people who interacted with him? Were they saying the same general things that Byron probably told Magic on the phone? Byron must've cut him to shreds to his old pal behind the scenes. Worthy and Fisher smiling derisively like that and Worthy going to the point of saying, "He'll learn..." seemed foreboding to me at the time. Looking back at that, it's easy to translate that as, "He'll learn when he gets dealt" more than "He's young and still has learning to do". It seemed like they all were privy to stuff that didn't even leak out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject:

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Even beyond the Lakers grave he still seems to haunt.


Fascinating, isn't it?

btw any reaction to their actions over in Brooklyn. They now plan on starting Lin, Russell, and Crabbe as the 1, 2, & 3. They are guard heavy, but set up nicely for the planned style of play. I think Sean Marks deserves credit for building something out of the crap sandwich left by his predecessor. If Atkinson is as good as I think he might be, that might be a fun team to watch.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:54 pm    Post subject:

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Omar Little wrote:

Fwiw, I've followed him pretty closely, and have talked with people who have interacted with him, so my take, while speculative, is educated somewhat.


You got any anecdotes that haven't been aired already? What was the overall take of the people who interacted with him? Were they saying the same general things that Byron probably told Magic on the phone? Byron must've cut him to shreds to his old pal behind the scenes. Worthy and Fisher smiling derisively like that and Worthy going to the point of saying, "He'll learn..." seemed foreboding to me at the time. Looking back at that, it's easy to translate that as, "He'll learn when he gets dealt" more than "He's young and still has learning to do". It seemed like they all were privy to stuff that didn't even leak out.


For one, there's rumor that he blew Pelinka's agency off pretty badly when Rob was trying to represent him.
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22 wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
Omar Little wrote:

Fwiw, I've followed him pretty closely, and have talked with people who have interacted with him, so my take, while speculative, is educated somewhat.


You got any anecdotes that haven't been aired already? What was the overall take of the people who interacted with him? Were they saying the same general things that Byron probably told Magic on the phone? Byron must've cut him to shreds to his old pal behind the scenes. Worthy and Fisher smiling derisively like that and Worthy going to the point of saying, "He'll learn..." seemed foreboding to me at the time. Looking back at that, it's easy to translate that as, "He'll learn when he gets dealt" more than "He's young and still has learning to do". It seemed like they all were privy to stuff that didn't even leak out.


For one, there's rumor that he blew Pelinka's agency off pretty badly when Rob was trying to represent him.


D'Lo didn't like the stories.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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justsomelakerfan wrote:
55 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me


Generalizing "You guys" is not very proper.
I find it interesting that someone who calls himself a Dlo homer for life can tell others to let it go. Maybe you should've let it go the day he was no longer a Laker?


Why, we can't be fans of players who aren't Lakers? What a load of hogwash. I find it interesting that you fail to grasp the very simple message justsomelakerfan stated. Basically simple. DLO is gone, you can ignore him or even dislike him, but you have no right to tell others to act the way you want to act. If he wants to be a fan for life, why the hell do you care? God complex? Let others enjoy whatever the hell they want to enjoy.


After nearly 10 years of reading your takes, you still manage to surprise me with your lack of reading comprehension

A) I don't dislike him. I think he'll be a fine player, he has a beautiful shot even when he misses. And I think he will be one of the top shooters in the league in a few years. He wasn't the right fit for what we're trying to build and I believe this trade will help us for many years down the road.

B) never told anyone they can't be a fan. Read again.

C) why should anyone ignore an ex Laker or topic of conversation. That's basically you telling me we can't discuss him but only you can.
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55 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
55 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me


Generalizing "You guys" is not very proper.
I find it interesting that someone who calls himself a Dlo homer for life can tell others to let it go. Maybe you should've let it go the day he was no longer a Laker?


I'm always going to be a D'Angelo homer, as a Laker or not. He was one of my favorite college prospects to ever watch and I love his game. I'm fans of players who aren't Lakers, it's just part of being an NBA fan.

I separate that from whining or complaining about his absence post-trade though. There's plenty of players on the current team for me to be excited about like Lonzo, Kuzma, Randle, Lopez, KCP & BI. I'm fine with the Lakers in a post-D'Angelo world, I'm done lamenting it.

I'm calling out people who are still finding things to (bleep) about post-trade as being unable to let go. It's silly. Why are we still finding things to criticize him for? He's gone, this is frankly what a lot of people wanted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
55 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
55 wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
DLO homer for life over here, if I can move on, so can you guys, I promise


He must have left quite an impression on you in the 2 losing years that he was here. That's remarkable!


Again, you guys need to let go, not me


Generalizing "You guys" is not very proper.
I find it interesting that someone who calls himself a Dlo homer for life can tell others to let it go. Maybe you should've let it go the day he was no longer a Laker?


I'm always going to be a D'Angelo homer, as a Laker or not. He was one of my favorite college prospects to ever watch and I love his game. I'm fans of players who aren't Lakers, it's just part of being an NBA fan.

I separate that from whining or complaining about his absence post-trade though. There's plenty of players on the current team for me to be excited about like Lonzo, Kuzma, Randle, Lopez, KCP & BI. I'm fine with the Lakers in a post-D'Angelo world, I'm done lamenting it.

I'm calling out people who are still finding things to (bleep) about post-trade as being unable to let go. It's silly. Why are we still finding things to criticize him for? He's gone, this is frankly what a lot of people wanted.


That's all that needed to be said
You were a fan of his before he was a Laker, makes sense now. I on the other hand haven't watched a single college game since the O'bannon boys won so I have no attachment to these kids as they enter the league.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:13 am    Post subject:

OregonLakerGuy wrote:
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Even beyond the Lakers grave he still seems to haunt.


Fascinating, isn't it?

btw any reaction to their actions over in Brooklyn. They now plan on starting Lin, Russell, and Crabbe as the 1, 2, & 3. They are guard heavy, but set up nicely for the planned style of play. I think Sean Marks deserves credit for building something out of the crap sandwich left by his predecessor. If Atkinson is as good as I think he might be, that might be a fun team to watch.


I don't know. I'm a Lakers fan so i don't follow the Nets closely!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:07 am    Post subject:

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22 wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
Omar Little wrote:

Fwiw, I've followed him pretty closely, and have talked with people who have interacted with him, so my take, while speculative, is educated somewhat.


You got any anecdotes that haven't been aired already? What was the overall take of the people who interacted with him? Were they saying the same general things that Byron probably told Magic on the phone? Byron must've cut him to shreds to his old pal behind the scenes. Worthy and Fisher smiling derisively like that and Worthy going to the point of saying, "He'll learn..." seemed foreboding to me at the time. Looking back at that, it's easy to translate that as, "He'll learn when he gets dealt" more than "He's young and still has learning to do". It seemed like they all were privy to stuff that didn't even leak out.


For one, there's rumor that he blew Pelinka's agency off pretty badly when Rob was trying to represent him.


D'Lo didn't like the stories.


He wasn't a T Swizzle fan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject:

I'm still salty we traded Dlo so early. I badly wanted to see Zo and Dlo backcourt. He was trending towards a perrenial all star.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
OregonLakerGuy wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Even beyond the Lakers grave he still seems to haunt.


Fascinating, isn't it?

btw any reaction to their actions over in Brooklyn. They now plan on starting Lin, Russell, and Crabbe as the 1, 2, & 3. They are guard heavy, but set up nicely for the planned style of play. I think Sean Marks deserves credit for building something out of the crap sandwich left by his predecessor. If Atkinson is as good as I think he might be, that might be a fun team to watch.


I don't know. I'm a Lakers fan so i don't follow the Nets closely!


The undead are hot rite now, yinoma. You know this. I'd like to see the Nets at least attempt to pull off the well-behaved, affable young hard-working lads platform that Rob/Mag have installed (by force). That's a victory in itself that's not to be sneezed at. If it were easy, it would be done more often than it is.
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