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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:41 am    Post subject:

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I gotta stop checking this thread. I feel sick. I hated that trade man


Don't feel bad. He did it to himself with his attitude. There was a story about his attitude getting him in trouble in High School and it took drastic measures by the coach to snap him out of it. It's a pattern with him. Lakers didn't want to deal with the attitude any longer. Thankfully we lucked out and got Kuzma from the trade. Happy ending for everyone involved.


I'll take good play and spotty attitude over the reverse any day.
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I gotta stop checking this thread. I feel sick. I hated that trade man


Don't feel bad. He did it to himself with his attitude. There was a story about his attitude getting him in trouble in High School and it took drastic measures by the coach to snap him out of it. It's a pattern with him. Lakers didn't want to deal with the attitude any longer. Thankfully we lucked out and got Kuzma from the trade. Happy ending for everyone involved.


And where is that story?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:01 am    Post subject:

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I gotta stop checking this thread. I feel sick. I hated that trade man


Don't feel bad. He did it to himself with his attitude. There was a story about his attitude getting him in trouble in High School and it took drastic measures by the coach to snap him out of it. It's a pattern with him. Lakers didn't want to deal with the attitude any longer. Thankfully we lucked out and got Kuzma from the trade. Happy ending for everyone involved.


And where is that story?


A highschooler with an iffy spoiled attitude? everywhere..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:04 am    Post subject:

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I gotta stop checking this thread. I feel sick. I hated that trade man


Don't feel bad. He did it to himself with his attitude. There was a story about his attitude getting him in trouble in High School and it took drastic measures by the coach to snap him out of it. It's a pattern with him. Lakers didn't want to deal with the attitude any longer. Thankfully we lucked out and got Kuzma from the trade. Happy ending for everyone involved.


And where is that story?


I think he's referring to the time that the Montverde coach subbed out the 15 year old for shooting too much.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:37 am    Post subject:

People have such a low benchmark for this FO. Imagine if we asked for Exum for Utah to move up to #28? They wouldn't have done it and he's no where near DLo's caliber right now. We could have moved up to #26 or #27 by giving up #28 and 2nd rounders from Chicago. And drafted Kuzma. No need to give away a lottery pick. That's what Utah did with us. We could have had DLo, Zo, Ingram and Kuzma if this FO was competent.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:34 am    Post subject:

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People have such a low benchmark for this FO. Imagine if we asked for Exum for Utah to move up to #28? They wouldn't have done it and he's no where near DLo's caliber right now. We could have moved up to #26 or #27 by giving up #28 and 2nd rounders from Chicago. And drafted Kuzma. No need to give away a lottery pick. That's what Utah did with us. We could have had DLo, Zo, Ingram and Kuzma if this FO was competent.


I think you're forgetting the dump salary angle.

Anyway, I wouldn't have traded D'Lo in a salary dump like this FO did.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject:

Nice job Magic.

Another good outing against the Sixers.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:54 am    Post subject:

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Notice how well he does when he gets kick-ahead passes in early offense.



In the early part of the video, he has some passes to Brooklyn bigs. Is he doing that better than in past seasons?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:28 am    Post subject:

OCWA wrote:
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I gotta stop checking this thread. I feel sick. I hated that trade man


Don't feel bad. He did it to himself with his attitude. There was a story about his attitude getting him in trouble in High School and it took drastic measures by the coach to snap him out of it. It's a pattern with him. Lakers didn't want to deal with the attitude any longer. Thankfully we lucked out and got Kuzma from the trade. Happy ending for everyone involved.


How about Dlo AND Kuz which was the likely result.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject:

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Notice how well he does when he gets kick-ahead passes in early offense.



In the early part of the video, he has some passes to Brooklyn bigs. Is he doing that better than in past seasons?


About the same I think. I will say that he'll get more opportunities to playmake with the ball in early offense this year despite sharing PG duties, as Randle used to either bring it up himself or would give the outlet too late.
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Notice how well he does when he gets kick-ahead passes in early offense.



In the early part of the video, he has some passes to Brooklyn bigs. Is he doing that better than in past seasons?


About the same I think. I will say that he'll get more opportunities to playmake with the ball in early offense this year despite sharing PG duties, as Randle used to either bring it up himself or would give the outlet too late.



That is logical about more opportunities due to the differences between the Brooklyn bigs and Randle.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject:

I don't understand why we had to make the salary dump NOW. We could have at least showcased him for a year and then dumped him for more, and only if we knew both LeBron and George were coming.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject:

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I don't understand why we had to make the salary dump NOW. We could have at least showcased him for a year and then dumped him for more, and only if we knew both LeBron and George were coming.


prob cause FO wanted to make an entry splash as new FO
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject:

The best stat for Russell last night was the 7 FTAs in 24 minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:30 am    Post subject:

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I don't understand why we had to make the salary dump NOW. We could have at least showcased him for a year and then dumped him for more, and only if we knew both LeBron and George were coming.


prob cause FO wanted to make an entry splash as new FO


Yeah obviously Magic wanted to make a statement that "his guy" Lonzo was going to be the PG and face of the franchise. Fine I get it.

What I don't get is why Magic and Luke as respected long time vets, HC, and GM couldn't work with DLo without all the pressure of being the franchise PG and get him to play off Ball. It's like they said he wasn't a leader and just threw the baby out with the bath water. To this point DLo seems to have no problem sharing a role with Lin in Brooklyn but then again Atkinson seems to have a better way of relating to his players.

As for the Kuzma angle they did have Houston's first round pick and still could've selected Kuz. From what I understand Luke is the one who pushed the Kuzma selection so they would've found a way to draft him regardless of the DLo trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject:

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I don't understand why we had to make the salary dump NOW. We could have at least showcased him for a year and then dumped him for more, and only if we knew both LeBron and George were coming.



There is the possibility that it will be more difficult to get rid of unwanted contracts (Mozgov & Deng) next summer than it was this past summer.

If they have LeBron and PG ready to sign and the final hurdle is clearing enough cap space, stretching both Mozgov and Deng would be a huge hit against the team salary for five seasons.

If they would want to dump Mozgov with no salary coming back in a difficult market, the cost could be higher than just Russell if the deal is even possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject:

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People have such a low benchmark for this FO. Imagine if we asked for Exum for Utah to move up to #28? They wouldn't have done it and he's no where near DLo's caliber right now. We could have moved up to #26 or #27 by giving up #28 and 2nd rounders from Chicago. And drafted Kuzma. No need to give away a lottery pick. That's what Utah did with us. We could have had DLo, Zo, Ingram and Kuzma if this FO was competent.


I think you're forgetting the dump salary angle.

Anyway, I wouldn't have traded D'Lo in a salary dump like this FO did.


Yea, but there was no reason to do it this early. Ingram is not ready to be 20 PPG player that Magic is desperately hyping him to be. Moz/Deng would have had a year less if we waited until next summer and we'd be in better position to judge which youngsters to keep.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:38 am    Post subject:

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People have such a low benchmark for this FO. Imagine if we asked for Exum for Utah to move up to #28? They wouldn't have done it and he's no where near DLo's caliber right now. We could have moved up to #26 or #27 by giving up #28 and 2nd rounders from Chicago. And drafted Kuzma. No need to give away a lottery pick. That's what Utah did with us. We could have had DLo, Zo, Ingram and Kuzma if this FO was competent.


I think you're forgetting the dump salary angle.

Anyway, I wouldn't have traded D'Lo in a salary dump like this FO did.


Yea, but there was no reason to do it this early. Ingram is not ready to be 20 PPG player that Magic is desperately hyping him to be. Moz/Deng would have had a year less if we waited until next summer and we'd be in better position to judge which youngsters to keep.


I think this is how most of us felt. We weren't gonna sign anybody big this summer so why was the salary dump so necessary? We could've seen how Ball and Russell aye together and of it didn't work then you make the trade. But I'm not a executive soaube I don't know what the heck I'm talking about.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The best stat for Russell last night was the 7 FTAs in 24 minutes.


That's what I noticed as well.

He looked really comfortable out there in the offense, not only finding his own but I saw some nice passes as well. Still see some inconsistency on the defensive end.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject:

It would be pretty ironic if Russell averaged 20 ppg this season.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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It would be pretty ironic if Russell averaged 20 ppg this season.
Even more so if they win more games than us.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject:

The salary dump wasn't the main motivation behind the trade, it was just a convenient excuse. The trade was all about avenging Byron. Russell was a dead man walking the moment Magic was hired.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject:

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The salary dump wasn't the main motivation behind the trade, it was just a convenient excuse. The trade was all about avenging Byron. Russell was a dead man walking the moment Magic was hired.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:58 pm    Post subject:

has there ever been any concrete evidence of this so called "attitude" DLO had?
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