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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject:

Can we officially change the name of this site to Netsground.net now?

I believe all parties on this forum can now rejoice in our fandom of that team.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject:

Also, now we can say at least we didn't botch the value of the #2 pick in that draft as much as Philly botched the value of #3

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject:

Wow. DLo and Oak in one team.

I had suggested in Okafor thread that Nets might go for him.

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Philly will send Okafor, Nik Stauskas, and a second-round pick to Brooklyn for Trevor Booker, sources say.


Marks got a second round pick for an expiring. Not bad. Maybe they will turn Oak into something similar to Kanter in some time. Instant offense from the bench.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject:

Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject:

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Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.


Hinkie has had several misses in the draft. Embiid was an obvious one at #3 after being projected as #1 pre-injury.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject:

Phollynis dumb as rocks. Lucked into #1 pick and embid was injured soneveryone was afraid to touch him. They then followed up drafting Noel and okafor after Joel and traded them for next to nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject:

Stauskas shot 36.8% from 3 last season. Might fit in well with the Nets.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject:

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Phollynis dumb as rocks. Lucked into #1 pick and embid was injured soneveryone was afraid to touch him. They then followed up drafting Noel and okafor after Joel and traded them for next to nothing.


If Philly doesn't screw up with Okafor, then they get Porzingis. And if they hadn't drafted Michael Carter-Williams (or used the Pelicans' pick on Nerlens Noel), then they could have gotten Greek Freak.

Imagine:

PG-- Simmons
SG-- Greek Freak
SF-- Porzingis
PF- Saric
C- Embiid

6th man: Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, or whoever else from this draft.

The tallest and most ridiculous lineup in NBA history. Even despite their screw-ups with Okafor, Noel, MCW, and now arguably with Fultz, they're still ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject:

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Phollynis dumb as rocks. Lucked into #1 pick and embid was injured soneveryone was afraid to touch him. They then followed up drafting Noel and okafor after Joel and traded them for next to nothing.


If Philly doesn't screw up with Okafor, then they get Porzingis. And if they hadn't drafted Michael Carter-Williams (or used the Pelicans' pick on Nerlens Noel), then they could have gotten Greek Freak.

Imagine:

PG-- Simmons
SG-- Greek Freak
SF-- Porzingis
PF- Saric
C- Embiid

6th man: Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, or whoever else from this draft.

The tallest and most ridiculous lineup in NBA history. Even despite their screw-ups with Okafor, Noel, MCW, and now arguably with Fultz, they're still ridiculous.


Usually a team with Porzingis and Greek Freak won't be bad enough to get Simmons. But since we are talking about Philly, they would have shut them down anyway to tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:50 pm    Post subject:

saetarubia wrote:
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Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.


Hinkie has had several misses in the draft. Embiid was an obvious one at #3 after being projected as #1 pre-injury.


I think the fact that everyone screws up was kind of baked into "The Process." If you give yourself enough chances at it, eventually you're gonna find a couple of studs that are worth building around, which is what ended up happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject:

so ironic DLO and Okafor wound up on the same team lol
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:16 pm    Post subject:

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Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.


All that's easy to say in hindsight. But at the time, most teams would have taken Okafor over Kristaps (heck most draft predictions had Emmanuel Mudiay over Kristaps). If you look at the analysis right the draft, most people gave the 76ers an A for choosing Okafor, while commenting that Kristaps was a risky pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject:

22 wrote:
so ironic DLO and Okafor wound up on the same team lol


Winslow and Hezonja next?

Over / under on Oak becoming a 35% three point shooter on 4 attempts a game?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject:

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Runway8 wrote:
Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.


All that's easy to say in hindsight. But at the time, most teams would have taken Okafor over Kristaps (heck most draft predictions had Emmanuel Mudiay over Kristaps). If you look at the analysis right the draft, most people gave the 76ers an A for choosing Okafor, while commenting that Kristaps was a risky pick.


I get that, but based on how they never gave him a chance, then why does any of that analysis matter? They drafted someone they didn't like, when you should always trust your own scouting. But then again, mabye that's a reflection of the lack of confidence in their department.

I mean it wasn't easy for the Lakers. D'LO over Okafor was quite controversial as well. When you got supposed brains in the media such as Magic and Phil Jackson raving about Oakafor. The Lakers trusted their own scouting, which was wrong about KP too btw, but nevertheless, they went with their own draft board.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Hilarious how they end up on the same team lol, funny how things work out

Should be fun to watch
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject:

Nets beat OKC.

Come to LA PG 13.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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The Brooklyn Nets have won consecutive games for the first time since the 2nd and 3rd game of the season with a 100-95 victory over Oklahoma City in Mexico.

Caris LeVert had his first double double: 21 points, 10 assists (career-high), 5 rebounds, 2 steals & 2 blocks.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
22 wrote:
so ironic DLO and Okafor wound up on the same team lol


Winslow and Hezonja next?

Over / under on Oak becoming a 35% three point shooter on 4 attempts a game?




🤔 Iíll take the under and say 34%!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:38 pm    Post subject:

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Never understood Philly. Never liked him, never gave him a chance, was never enamored with Oak, so why draft him? Why not shoot for the stars in Kristaps? If KP turns out to be a bust, which obviously he isn't, who cares? That gamble would have been worth it instead of drafting someone you never wanted. I don't get it. Maybe that was worthy of being laid off for Hinkie.


All that's easy to say in hindsight. But at the time, most teams would have taken Okafor over Kristaps (heck most draft predictions had Emmanuel Mudiay over Kristaps). If you look at the analysis right the draft, most people gave the 76ers an A for choosing Okafor, while commenting that Kristaps was a risky pick.


I get that, but based on how they never gave him a chance, then why does any of that analysis matter? They drafted someone they didn't like, when you should always trust your own scouting. But then again, mabye that's a reflection of the lack of confidence in their department.

I mean it wasn't easy for the Lakers. D'LO over Okafor was quite controversial as well. When you got supposed brains in the media such as Magic and Phil Jackson raving about Oakafor. The Lakers trusted their own scouting, which was wrong about KP too btw, but nevertheless, they went with their own draft board.


The way I see it, the 76ers have a center (Embidd) whose future was unclear, so they took the best available player. He had a good, but not great rookie season. The next year, Embiid finally returned, and was head and shoulders better, making Okafor unnecessary.

Towns was the clear #1 pick and after that there was a mixed bag of guys with pros and cons. And then you just throw the dice. And if you make the wrong choice, as most teams do, you get second guessed.

But that's the draft. The good choices are dismissed as "no brainers," while the bad choices are considered stupid mistakes that should have been obvious.

I mean heck if the Knicks were so brilliant for choosing Kristaps, why did they take Frank Ntilikina instead of Donovan Mitchell the next time around. And the reason is you don't always get lucky.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:14 am    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
Can we officially change the name of this site to Netsground.net now?

I believe all parties on this forum can now rejoice in our fandom of that team.


One guy was never a Laker and the other was here just two years, yet some Laker fans have developed deep emotional attachments to each....lol..

In the past, hard core sports fans would have discussed their favorite teams with only co-workers, family and friends, and the majority of those people wouldn't be as passionate so the conversations would be limited. Now there are pages upon pages of discussions, between the like minded, about prospective draft choices and this saturation causes fans to develop emotional attachments to something that never was or was short lived. The internet has warped reality.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:39 am    Post subject:

the Nets have a better record than the Lakers?????????? I haven't been paying attention, but lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:10 am    Post subject:

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the Nets have a better record than the Lakers?????????? I haven't been paying attention, but lol.


East is a joke
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
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the Nets have a better record than the Lakers?????????? I haven't been paying attention, but lol.


East is a joke


True but I'm all for Cleveland getting a worse pick.
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