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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject:
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Well, this game will certainly drag down his stats. Good to see him back and getting into the flow a bit.
Think of this as a win win. His supporters happy he’s back, his detractors happy he’s not having a good game. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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DeMarre Carroll on D'Angelo Russell's importance:
"Oh my god, so important. You could see when he's out there he's in command of the whole game, he's in command of the guys on the court."
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D'Angelo Russell: "Limited minutes, but it was great. Just being out there in general. All numbers aside, I don't know how you want out put it, but just being out there was really my main focus."
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D'Angelo Russell on Caris LeVert:
I tried to be that voice for him, but he’s growing on his own. Every game he has ups and downs, but being that voice for him.. two young guys on the team trying to find their way in this league, I think we’re going to need each other to do that
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:43 pm Post subject:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Well, this game will certainly drag down his stats. Good to see him back and getting into the flow a bit.
Think of this as a win win. His supporters happy he’s back, his detractors happy he’s not having a good game.
Pretty much the same (bleep) since he was drafted.
Yup. Kid became the avatar of all laker angst. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Him being rusty was expected after missing 33 games. Crabbe has been shooting poorly. DLO should take his place when he's ready to start. _________________ Showtime 2.0
Bad stats aside, the run they made when he was running the second unit was one of the main reasons they won.
How was his defense? I missed the second half. But in the first half, he was killing me on the PnR. Watching Dinwiddie fight over screens so the big man could hedge and recover, versus watching Russell just immediately give up into a switch, was day-and-night.
They're smart putting him off ball and letting LeVert (and presumably Dinwiddie if they played together) guard the primary ballhandler, imo. Even though iirc last year his defensive numbers at the 1 were actually better than at the 2.
(I'm also reminded of a Cranjis stat about how Russell's PnR ballhandler defense ppp was elite before his injury. I wonder if that's because after a switch, the playtype becomes something else, like an iso? Or maybe I'm just not evaluating his defense correctly.)
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:08 am Post subject:
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fiendishoc wrote:
Bad stats aside, the run they made when he was running the second unit was one of the main reasons they won.
How was his defense? I missed the second half. But in the first half, he was killing me on the PnR. Watching Dinwiddie fight over screens so the big man could hedge and recover, versus watching Russell just immediately give up into a switch, was day-and-night.
They're smart putting him off ball and letting LeVert (and presumably Dinwiddie if they played together) guard the primary ballhandler, imo. Even though iirc last year his defensive numbers at the 1 were actually better than at the 2.
(I'm also reminded of a Cranjis stat about how Russell's PnR ballhandler defense ppp was elite before his injury. I wonder if that's because after a switch, the playtype becomes something else, like an iso? Or maybe I'm just not evaluating his defense correctly.)
His second stint was like a 14-0 run so Miami didn't score during it. But Levert was on Dragic like you mentioned and he was guarding off ball. I think he likes to play a step off of ball handlers and try to recover with his length, which makes it easier to catch him on screens. Regarding the Synergy stats I think they still count switches as part of PnR defense. Though it can also mean that he could benefit from having teammates who are good at handling switches.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:44 pm Post subject:
I keep thinking Dinwiddie is a nickname for D'Angelo instead of the name of an actual player. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Bad stats aside, the run they made when he was running the second unit was one of the main reasons they won.
How was his defense? I missed the second half. But in the first half, he was killing me on the PnR. Watching Dinwiddie fight over screens so the big man could hedge and recover, versus watching Russell just immediately give up into a switch, was day-and-night.
They're smart putting him off ball and letting LeVert (and presumably Dinwiddie if they played together) guard the primary ballhandler, imo. Even though iirc last year his defensive numbers at the 1 were actually better than at the 2.
(I'm also reminded of a Cranjis stat about how Russell's PnR ballhandler defense ppp was elite before his injury. I wonder if that's because after a switch, the playtype becomes something else, like an iso? Or maybe I'm just not evaluating his defense correctly.)
His second stint was like a 14-0 run so Miami didn't score during it. But Levert was on Dragic like you mentioned and he was guarding off ball. I think he likes to play a step off of ball handlers and try to recover with his length, which makes it easier to catch him on screens. Regarding the Synergy stats I think they still count switches as part of PnR defense. Though it can also mean that he could benefit from having teammates who are good at handling switches.
Hmm, ty for the info. I'll keep an eye out on his defense. It's funny how I was so keyed in on him playing defense as a Laker that my eye naturally track him still. I think the PnR defense stat might be the result of a small sample size. Or like you said, his teammates are good at handling switches. To be fair, he's also been pretty good at ice and soft hedge coverages too, so that's probably part of it.
+12 tonight in his minutes so far. Didn't get a chance to watch, but it appears he's rounding back into form?
I was watching the 2nd half... eh. Individual game +/- is notoriously shaky and he benefits from playing against bench scrubs, esp. since the Brooklyn bench corps is pretty good. He's been off-ball both offensively and defensively (LeVert was on ball for both) and so his impact wasn't that tangible.
At least in the 2nd half, he's been pretty passive -- aside from one bricked contested 3 (I guess he was feeling hot after making one 3 in a row lol), he's basically just been taking open shots (open 3, open fastbreak layup) or making the correct reads out of the PnR. Nothing wrong with that (Dinwiddie-esque honestly) and the team played well he was out there, but not really the Dlo of old.
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