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| I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Miss this dude. |
Same. Especially after 6 blow-out losses in a row (Nance being out essentially for the last 5) |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Miss this dude. |
It's more angering that Byron decided Ryan Kelly was worth giving minutes to over Tarik Black.
When Nance went down you'd assume Black would start getting minutes and Black would be moved to the 4 where he should have been.
Nope... |
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| Black can't stretch the floor and not that mobile. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
? Still waiting for the punch line
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
? Still waiting for the punch line |
Umm, what? Harden leads the league in fts and you wouldnt trade Nance... i mean i like Nance but waht? |
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| anpherknee wrote: | https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/691725888128487424
he's scrimmaging today |
Great link. Posted it in the DLO thread as well.
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| Sina wrote: | | Black can't stretch the floor and not that mobile. |
Ryan Kelly also can't stretch the floor and is also not mobile.
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Nance Jr. not gonna participate in the dunk contest this year  probably for the best |
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Legacy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
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| Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going  |
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Legacy
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going |
Read the last line one more time...
Or for the first time. |
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| Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going |
Read the last line one more time...
Or for the first time. |
I stand by my statement. 
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going |
Read the last line one more time...
Or for the first time. |
O i read it... and? |
 Well in that case I'm happy you're not the GM. I was never a fan of the Nick Van Exel Lakers. I'm a fan of winning championships. Please tell us how James Harden will lead us (or any team) to a championship. Before you ask me how Larry Nance Jr. will, reread that last line again, comprehend it this time and get back to me.
Thanks fella. |
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I like Nance but its a strange leap to go from no team will win a championship with Harden as its leader (debateable) to not being willing to trade Nance for Harden. No team is ever going to be a contender with Nance as its best player. So I'm not sure what the point was supposed to be.
Nance has far exceeded expectations. He looks like he has even more upside still. I couldn't be happier with the guy. But Harden is a top ten player, which Nance will never be. People said the same stuff about Kobe after Shaq left, that he'd never win a title on his own. Robert Horry was one of the great role players in league history. Any GM in NBA history would have traded Robert Horry for Kobe Bryant. Nance could go on to be an Horry level role player. I could see that happening. But you still wouldn't trade a top ten talent for him. |
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| Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going |
Read the last line one more time...
Or for the first time. |
O i read it... and? |
Well in that case I'm happy you're not the GM. I was never a fan of the Nick Van Exel Lakers. I'm a fan of winning championships. Please tell us how James Harden will lead us (or any team) to a championship. Before you ask me how Larry Nance Jr. will, reread that last line again, comprehend it this time and get back to me.
Thanks fella. |
Harden is one of the best players in the league. Dude averages 10 fts a game, if he's not worth a max contract who is? O yeah James >>>> Nick |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
i'm not a fan of harden, but  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| J.C. Smith wrote: | I like Nance but its a strange leap to go from no team will win a championship with Harden as its leader (debateable) to not being willing to trade Nance for Harden. No team is ever going to be a contender with Nance as its best player. So I'm not sure what the point was supposed to be.
Nance has far exceeded expectations. He looks like he has even more upside still. I couldn't be happier with the guy. But Harden is a top ten player, which Nance will never be. People said the same stuff about Kobe after Shaq left, that he'd never win a title on his own. Robert Horry was one of the great role players in league history. Any GM in NBA history would have traded Robert Horry for Kobe Bryant. Nance could go on to be an Horry level role player. I could see that happening. But you still wouldn't trade a top ten talent for him. |
No. I don't want to explain my post for the simple fact that I made it very clear in perfect english. Nance is not a franchise player. Harden is. That in no way implies he is a championship leader. He is a foul bucket with some skill. That's my opinion. Keep Nance and the Lakers have options for a higher plateau. Get Harden and they've capped themselves out with his free-throw line abilities. |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | I wouldn't trade Nance for even James Harden if Morey called me. Maybe if he begged and threw in a first rounder. Maybe. |
Funny predicament I find myself in after reading this. I'm not a huge fan of Harden. Impact player, yeah. I can do without the bobble head routine on a nightly basis though. Better yet, every-play-down-the-court basis.
Nance on the other hand has been pretty impressive as well. I won't pretend he is a superstar, nor will I pretend he will transform into one in the future. But they play different positions and have different impacts on the court. The biggest difference is Harden is expected to have a team molded around him with the intent of being a contender. That, I will never buy into. No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader. Matter of fact, I'll bold it for you guys "No team will ever win a championship with Harden as their leader". He's just not that guy. He's 2 steps under Charles Barkley.
So with that premise, I would prefer Nance and his contract (future contracts as well) over bobble head. Keep the kid and find another cornerstone.
Let's not mistake the "Nance/Harden" argument as "the better player" argument. Invest in Nance and you have options for a contender. Invest in Harden and you've already played your best hand. |
No offense but youre just wrong and Im happy your not the GM. Harden >> Nance, no matter what their contract is. If we traded for Harden i would be going |
Read the last line one more time...
Or for the first time. |
O i read it... and? |
Well in that case I'm happy you're not the GM. I was never a fan of the Nick Van Exel Lakers. I'm a fan of winning championships. Please tell us how James Harden will lead us (or any team) to a championship. Before you ask me how Larry Nance Jr. will, reread that last line again, comprehend it this time and get back to me.
Thanks fella. |
Harden is one of the best players in the league. Dude averages 10 fts a game, if he's not worth a max contract who is? O yeah James >>>> Nick |
Ya, Corey Maggettie was up there too. Show me a list of elite free-throw attempt leaders and then show me how many of them won (or lead their team to) championships. |
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Corey Maggettie was a beast but Harden >>> Corey. I think you value max contracts too much. They're some players who deserve the Max. Harden is one of them.  |
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I'm a big Nance fan, but cmon we'd be stupid to not make that trade. I'm not a big fan of Harden, but he is an elite player. Will he ever win the championship as a number one guy? Who knows, but he did lead the Rockets to the West Finals last year. His supporting cast isn't that great. Dwight is done. Lawson is a solid point guard, but they don't really fit together. Ariza is probably their third best player. That's not a recipe for success. Not disrespect, but he's a role player not a featured guy. The rest of their roster is nothing to write home about.
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Corey Maggettie was a beast but Harden >>> Corey. I think you value max contracts too much. They're some players who deserve the Max. Harden is one of them. |
Maggette fan here. He dropped 50 on Kobe. |
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