OFFICIAL ROBERT UPSHAW THREAD (Cut from D League for Drug Violation pg 137)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:04 pm    Post subject:

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As impressive as Upshaw's upside is, I don't see the kind of outlandish athleticism that the centers of the 90s displayed a la Shaq, Robinson, etc.

What is Upshaw's ceiling here? Mutombo with a better touch? a taller Theo Ratliff?


I see a better defensive Mozgov.

For an undrafted rookie, I'll take that all day.


I think that's an average upside that he can reach. I think of a MUCH higher upside than that. Very optimistic.



I see him as a Dikembe Mutombo with more offense.


I definitely don't think that. I'm more along the lines of Alonzo Mourning in nearly Bynum's size.

Basic post game. Could have in-game midrange jumper developed. Above average rebounder. Swat king. Tremendous base.


Zo could get you 20/10 in his sleep in addition to anchoring the paint. Do you really think Upshaw can be a consistent scorer? Seems too raw offensively to ever reach that ceiling.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Watching some of Upshaw's highlight;he makes things look easy.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:17 pm    Post subject:

SIGN HIM NOW!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject:

Upshaw has a lot of upside.
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Why are people so high on this guy?
Yes, he's a physical specimen at the 5, but he hasn't shown the IQ in college to play both sides of the ball @ the professional level.
At best, he's a developmental talent for 3~5 seasons and that hinges largely on his maturity which he's spectacularly failed to show for two collegiate programs.
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Gatekeeper wrote:
Why are people so high on this guy?
Yes, he's a physical specimen at the 5, but he hasn't shown the IQ in college to play both sides of the ball @ the professional level.
At best, he's a developmental talent for 3~5 seasons and that hinges largely on his maturity which he's spectacularly failed to show for two collegiate programs.

Size, proven ability to swat, basic skill set is there.

Isn't mature, but for an undrafted rookie there is very few that has his upside.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject:

TheElectronica wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
Why are people so high on this guy?
Yes, he's a physical specimen at the 5, but he hasn't shown the IQ in college to play both sides of the ball @ the professional level.
At best, he's a developmental talent for 3~5 seasons and that hinges largely on his maturity which he's spectacularly failed to show for two collegiate programs.

Size, proven ability to swat, basic skill set is there.

Isn't mature, but for an undrafted rookie there is very few that has his upside.



BUT HE'S A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM PROVING HE CAN PLAY IN THE NBA AND STAY OFF DRUGS...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:08 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
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LakersForever123 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
shnxx wrote:
As impressive as Upshaw's upside is, I don't see the kind of outlandish athleticism that the centers of the 90s displayed a la Shaq, Robinson, etc.

What is Upshaw's ceiling here? Mutombo with a better touch? a taller Theo Ratliff?


I see a better defensive Mozgov.

For an undrafted rookie, I'll take that all day.


I think that's an average upside that he can reach. I think of a MUCH higher upside than that. Very optimistic.



I see him as a Dikembe Mutombo with more offense.


I definitely don't think that. I'm more along the lines of Alonzo Mourning in nearly Bynum's size.

Basic post game. Could have in-game midrange jumper developed. Above average rebounder. Swat king. Tremendous base.


Zo could get you 20/10 in his sleep in addition to anchoring the paint. Do you really think Upshaw can be a consistent scorer? Seems too raw offensively to ever reach that ceiling.


Yes. But it's a very optimistic upside.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:30 pm    Post subject:

I don't want to get high on Upshaw until he signs that Lakers contract.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject:

Upshaw will have to work very hard to improve his physical conditioning if he wants to make the squad.
I expect him to show up in the best shape of his life for Summer League.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:54 pm    Post subject:

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Upshaw will have to work very hard to improve his physical conditioning if he wants to make the squad.
I expect him to show up in the best shape of his life for Summer League.


He's been working out for over 3 months now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:04 pm    Post subject:

I have no doubt Upshaw could give us 10 rebs and 3 bpg in 20 mins but he isn't gonna score much. the offense just isn't there. He's already great at rebounding and shot blocking DOOOOOOOOOOE
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:06 pm    Post subject:

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I have no doubt Upshaw could give us 10 rebs and 3 bpg in 20 mins but he isn't gonna score much. the offense just isn't there. He's already great at rebounding and shot blocking DOOOOOOOOOOE


Dats all we need outta him DOOOEEE!
I'll take that and RUN!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject:

I a little shocked we haven't given him a contract yet.

Another team can easily swoop in and get him still.

I would also make another run at Christian Wood - low risk/ high reward.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:15 pm    Post subject:

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I a little shocked we haven't given him a contract yet.

Another team can easily swoop in and get him still.

I would also make another run at Christian Wood - low risk/ high reward.


When he's done swating KAT & Okafor shots in summer league he's gonna be signed lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:19 am    Post subject:

Interesting workout videos. He's performing drills in 2010. 8-10 min. each and he shows a really nice shooting stroke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StY3ReD_Owo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T8i5zgEhvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lHhYxvRV0
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:30 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
I have no doubt Upshaw could give us 10 rebs and 3 bpg in 20 mins but he isn't gonna score much. the offense just isn't there. He's already great at rebounding and shot blocking DOOOOOOOOOOE


Dude, He has a 9'5" reach. he can bascially dunk the ball without even jumping. Russell and Clarkson will get him easy dunks from their PNRs.

If we sign him and he plays 20mins, i think he can average 7-10 points per game.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:36 am    Post subject:

I am drooling over the possibility of Larry and upshaw as our defensive stoppers with 5 minutes left in the game. Larry coming from the weak side and upshaw taking care of the middle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:53 am    Post subject:

Gatekeeper wrote:
Why are people so high on this guy?
Yes, he's a physical specimen at the 5, but he hasn't shown the IQ in college to play both sides of the ball @ the professional level.
At best, he's a developmental talent for 3~5 seasons and that hinges largely on his maturity which he's spectacularly failed to show for two collegiate programs.


Which upside? As a player? Or as a human being?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:54 am    Post subject:

Why are we high on him? B/c he may be our best center next season since we will likely strike out in free agency.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:55 am    Post subject:

Smel Counts wrote:
Interesting workout videos. He's performing drills in 2010. 8-10 min. each and he shows a really nice shooting stroke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StY3ReD_Owo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T8i5zgEhvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lHhYxvRV0


Check out his draftexpress workout on YouTube
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:56 am    Post subject:

Damn, never thought we'd actually have to hope that a guy who has been kicked out of 2 schools for likely drug abuse would be our best hope at center.

This too shall hopefully pass.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:57 am    Post subject:

Smel Counts wrote:
Interesting workout videos. He's performing drills in 2010. 8-10 min. each and he shows a really nice shooting stroke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StY3ReD_Owo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T8i5zgEhvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lHhYxvRV0


The impressive thing about the first video is he has patience to develop muscle memory. That's more than half the battle.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:00 am    Post subject:


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