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LakerSanity
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| D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
His comment had nothing to do with his background, but rather your attempt to bait others into a bigoted debate. Do not come back to this thread. The only reason you haven't been suspended is because of my assumption that your beliefs are religious based, which I will do my best to respect (regardless of my own beliefs).
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| No. 17 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
God is man made.
God is-was a male chauvinists wet dream
God didn't declare homosexuality an abomination...some (bleep) dudes who created a book called the bible did.
What is this God invention and especially tell me why it is ONLY represented as a MALE.. what a serious joke. |
Talk about a bigot..
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I'm not intolerant I just can't stand how Christians act like they're persecuted when that is their M.O.
There are 7 billion humans.
Jesus is a white people story
There are 1.35,billion Chinese and 1.25 billion Indians... Why aren't they Christians? They're all Godless heathens, right?
Did you disagree with anything I said? Why did man create God to be a male? |
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ContagiousInspiration
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| D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
24 gave him/her slack I thought it was a warning. I don't think he/she wants to be here.
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D'Angelo Russell
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
After D'Angelo Russell thanked God first when drafted, will you be the one to break it to him that God is man made? I'd like to see that.
My hundreds of millions of God fearing brothers and sisters around the world would let you know that your train of thought is in the very overwhelming minority. Its not only Christians, its Muslims and every other religion. Yet religious and non religious people alike disapprove of homosexuality. Is everyone suppose to turn a blind eye to what the act entails?
Jesus is a white mans story comment is right up there with the God is man made comment. Absolutely absurd.
Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical. |
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| D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
After D'Angelo Russell thanked God first when drafted, will you be the one to break it to him that God is man made? I'd like to see that.
My hundreds of millions of God fearing brothers and sisters around the world would let you know that your train of thought is in the very overwhelming minority. Its not only Christians, its Muslims and every other religion. Yet religious and non religious people alike disapprove of homosexuality. Is everyone suppose to turn a blind eye to what the act entails?
Jesus is a white mans story comment is right up there with the God is man made comment. Absolutely absurd.
Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical. |
In the United States the people that disapprove of homosexuality are the minority. Your way of thinking is quickly dying out. You should come to grips with that. |
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| D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
After D'Angelo Russell thanked God first when drafted, will you be the one to break it to him that God is man made? I'd like to see that.
My hundreds of millions of God fearing brothers and sisters around the world would let you know that your train of thought is in the very overwhelming minority. Its not only Christians, its Muslims and every other religion. Yet religious and non religious people alike disapprove of homosexuality. Is everyone suppose to turn a blind eye to what the act entails?
Jesus is a white mans story comment is right up there with the God is man made comment. Absolutely absurd.
Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical. |
Let's assume what you say is true. So what if our thought is in the minority?
If you think it's wrong to marry a man, then don't marry a man. There, problem solved.
No one is saying you have to marry a man. Just don't. What's the problem? |
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ContagiousInspiration
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| D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | D'Angelo Russell wrote: | God creates marriage. God calls homosexuality an abomination. Homosexuals want marriage. Awkward.
Do homosexuals want the church to marry them for Gods blessings too? |
On behalf of my gay brothers and sisters, that will be all we will be hearing from you on this subject. You are entitled to be a bigot, but this isn't going to be the platform for it. |
And I understand your loyalty to your transgender kid mentioned in Caitlyn Jenner thread. |
I really think this site shouldn't allow members to use exact spelling of.players names as their username.
Your comment was really creepy |
After D'Angelo Russell thanked God first when drafted, will you be the one to break it to him that God is man made? I'd like to see that.
My hundreds of millions of God fearing brothers and sisters around the world would let you know that your train of thought is in the very overwhelming minority. Its not only Christians, its Muslims and every other religion. Yet religious and non religious people alike disapprove of homosexuality. Is everyone suppose to turn a blind eye to what the act entails?
Jesus is a white mans story comment is right up there with the God is man made comment. Absolutely absurd.
Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical. |
Religion is more of a choice than homosexuality. Your words in this post are a disgrace to the Love Jesus preached.
Thankfully America is a place where your kind cannot force people to follow your mythology. |
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Well, this went downhill fast.
Guys, you are being suckers for a troll. It should have been a clue when he wrote "Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical." Either he is yanking your chains or he is some sort of message board martyr wearing a metaphorical explosive vest. Either way, you're suckers.
P.S. Bigotry aimed at religious types is still bigotry. It makes me shake my head when I see people spewing hatred toward religious types because they perceive religious types as spewing hatred. This guy may be playing games, but he is bringing out the worst in you. |
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You beat me to it AH LINK
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That's pretty much the point. Heterosexual marriage wasn't a fundamental right in the Constitution.
That's not to say it isn't a human right. The Constitution was meant to limit the government's power. You had a right to do a lot of stuff on your own without the Federal government telling you that it wasn't allowed. |
We had a far more limited federal government before the constitution. |
What Federal government? |
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Does that mean Lebron wins too? |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | Well, this went downhill fast.
Guys, you are being suckers for a troll. It should have been a clue when he wrote "Would require a real bigot to ban me. Banning me would be completely hypocritical." Either he is yanking your chains or he is some sort of message board martyr wearing a metaphorical explosive vest. Either way, you're suckers.
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I am actually shocked this happened. Like you, I thought his trolling was so transparently obvious. |
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| This is why discussions like this didn't used to be allowed. Let's stop feeding the troll. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | This is why discussions like this didn't used to be allowed. Let's stop feeding the troll. |
Exactly, I don't think this Russell guy is really serious about this.....
Probably some angry 76ers fan sent over to mess with us....  |
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| No. 17 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
God is man made.
God is-was a male chauvinists wet dream
God didn't declare homosexuality an abomination...some (bleep) dudes who created a book called the bible did.
What is this God invention and especially tell me why it is ONLY represented as a MALE.. what a serious joke. |
Talk about a bigot..
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bigot
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So were the people who fought against slavery bigots as well?
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| nickuku wrote: | | No. 17 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
God is man made.
God is-was a male chauvinists wet dream
God didn't declare homosexuality an abomination...some (bleep) dudes who created a book called the bible did.
What is this God invention and especially tell me why it is ONLY represented as a MALE.. what a serious joke. |
Talk about a bigot..
British Dictionary definitions for bigot Expand
bigot
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noun
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a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
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So were the people who fought against slavery bigots as well? |
Yes.
We're all bigots. |
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| nickuku wrote: | | No. 17 wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
God is man made.
God is-was a male chauvinists wet dream
God didn't declare homosexuality an abomination...some (bleep) dudes who created a book called the bible did.
What is this God invention and especially tell me why it is ONLY represented as a MALE.. what a serious joke. |
Talk about a bigot..
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bigot
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So were the people who fought against slavery bigots as well? |
You're being cynical so I won't bother responding to you.
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| 24 wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | Corey, I agree with you. I noticed that one of the dissenters raised the point about polygamy. It was either Roberts or Scalia. That is actually a good illustration of the larger point that I am making. If marriage is a fundamental right, and some polygamists say "Recognize us," what is the basis for saying no? The social views of five justices, or the Constitution itself?
With an equal protection analysis, we don't get to that point. The question would simply be whether there is a legitimate government interest in banning polygamy. (I am skipping over the different forms of scrutiny that you mentioned. That's a distinction that isn't relevant to the discussion.) |
Agree on equal protection. The argument against polygamy is that banning it doesn't violate equal protection, every adult can partner with one other adult, no matter their gender or orientation. |
But no definition of marriage has been codified on the federal level, only that all must be allowed to marry, which follows along with prior decision to restrict discriminating against letting people of different races marrying, and prisoners marrying. Without a codified definition (as a number of states have done) then it would seem there is no federal restriction preventing polygamy. Only a matter of time before some Utah family asserts this. |
Not on the grounds of equal protection. |
It was only a matter of time:
| Quote: | Nathan Collier, who lives in Billings, Mont., applied for a marriage license Tuesday for his polygamous relationship with his two wives.
The U.S. Supreme Court decision last Friday on same-sex marriage prompted him to seek the license, he said.
"We've been together many years. I want to give my wife the legitimacy that she deserves," Collier told USA TODAY Network.
The Supreme Court's decision made marriage legal nationwide between same-sex couples. But in his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts said that the legal argument used to justify same-sex marriage could be used by polygamist couples. Collier said that argument inspired him to apply.
Collier met both of his wives in 1999. He married Victoria in 2000 and had a spiritual ceremony with Christine, he said. Collier now wants to legalize his marriage to both of them, he said.
Their family is not new to the public eye. They appeared on the TLC reality show Sister Wives in January.
County clerk officials took Collier's application and are consulting with the county's attorney's office, according to Collier. |
Polygamous Marriage License Application
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | Corey, I agree with you. I noticed that one of the dissenters raised the point about polygamy. It was either Roberts or Scalia. That is actually a good illustration of the larger point that I am making. If marriage is a fundamental right, and some polygamists say "Recognize us," what is the basis for saying no? The social views of five justices, or the Constitution itself?
With an equal protection analysis, we don't get to that point. The question would simply be whether there is a legitimate government interest in banning polygamy. (I am skipping over the different forms of scrutiny that you mentioned. That's a distinction that isn't relevant to the discussion.) |
Agree on equal protection. The argument against polygamy is that banning it doesn't violate equal protection, every adult can partner with one other adult, no matter their gender or orientation. |
But no definition of marriage has been codified on the federal level, only that all must be allowed to marry, which follows along with prior decision to restrict discriminating against letting people of different races marrying, and prisoners marrying. Without a codified definition (as a number of states have done) then it would seem there is no federal restriction preventing polygamy. Only a matter of time before some Utah family asserts this. |
Not on the grounds of equal protection. |
It was only a matter of time:
| Quote: | Nathan Collier, who lives in Billings, Mont., applied for a marriage license Tuesday for his polygamous relationship with his two wives.
The U.S. Supreme Court decision last Friday on same-sex marriage prompted him to seek the license, he said.
"We've been together many years. I want to give my wife the legitimacy that she deserves," Collier told USA TODAY Network.
The Supreme Court's decision made marriage legal nationwide between same-sex couples. But in his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts said that the legal argument used to justify same-sex marriage could be used by polygamist couples. Collier said that argument inspired him to apply.
Collier met both of his wives in 1999. He married Victoria in 2000 and had a spiritual ceremony with Christine, he said. Collier now wants to legalize his marriage to both of them, he said.
Their family is not new to the public eye. They appeared on the TLC reality show Sister Wives in January.
County clerk officials took Collier's application and are consulting with the county's attorney's office, according to Collier. |
Polygamous Marriage License Application |
Same folks MUST support this unfortunately.
But who cares, more power to the guy. |
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ContagiousInspiration
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| I think marriage needs religion removed from it /eos |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | Corey, I agree with you. I noticed that one of the dissenters raised the point about polygamy. It was either Roberts or Scalia. That is actually a good illustration of the larger point that I am making. If marriage is a fundamental right, and some polygamists say "Recognize us," what is the basis for saying no? The social views of five justices, or the Constitution itself?
With an equal protection analysis, we don't get to that point. The question would simply be whether there is a legitimate government interest in banning polygamy. (I am skipping over the different forms of scrutiny that you mentioned. That's a distinction that isn't relevant to the discussion.) |
Agree on equal protection. The argument against polygamy is that banning it doesn't violate equal protection, every adult can partner with one other adult, no matter their gender or orientation. |
But no definition of marriage has been codified on the federal level, only that all must be allowed to marry, which follows along with prior decision to restrict discriminating against letting people of different races marrying, and prisoners marrying. Without a codified definition (as a number of states have done) then it would seem there is no federal restriction preventing polygamy. Only a matter of time before some Utah family asserts this. |
Not on the grounds of equal protection. |
It was only a matter of time:
| Quote: | Nathan Collier, who lives in Billings, Mont., applied for a marriage license Tuesday for his polygamous relationship with his two wives.
The U.S. Supreme Court decision last Friday on same-sex marriage prompted him to seek the license, he said.
"We've been together many years. I want to give my wife the legitimacy that she deserves," Collier told USA TODAY Network.
The Supreme Court's decision made marriage legal nationwide between same-sex couples. But in his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts said that the legal argument used to justify same-sex marriage could be used by polygamist couples. Collier said that argument inspired him to apply.
Collier met both of his wives in 1999. He married Victoria in 2000 and had a spiritual ceremony with Christine, he said. Collier now wants to legalize his marriage to both of them, he said.
Their family is not new to the public eye. They appeared on the TLC reality show Sister Wives in January.
County clerk officials took Collier's application and are consulting with the county's attorney's office, according to Collier. |
Polygamous Marriage License Application |
Same folks MUST support this unfortunately.
But who cares, more power to the guy. |
....TWO wives to keep happy! Damn fool!
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Reflexx wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: |
That's pretty much the point. Heterosexual marriage wasn't a fundamental right in the Constitution.
That's not to say it isn't a human right. The Constitution was meant to limit the government's power. You had a right to do a lot of stuff on your own without the Federal government telling you that it wasn't allowed. |
We had a far more limited federal government before the constitution. |
What Federal government? |
Or central government, whatever you want to call it. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: |
That's pretty much the point. Heterosexual marriage wasn't a fundamental right in the Constitution.
That's not to say it isn't a human right. The Constitution was meant to limit the government's power. You had a right to do a lot of stuff on your own without the Federal government telling you that it wasn't allowed. |
We had a far more limited federal government before the constitution. |
What Federal government? |
Or central government, whatever you want to call it. |
Do you mean the British Crown and it's colonial Government?
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Articles of Confederation |
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