Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90306 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:44 am Post subject:
epak wrote:
Noice. Thank you Lou. Better energy today.
I don't think the bipolar issue is Lou's... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
what's with the green filter though? Makes some jerseys look weird... not at all bad though.
They didn't show them there, but I love the way he does a hesitate dribble/Pump fake than goes hard to the right side turns the corner on his defender, and is able to use his body to protect the ball and finishes with his right hand off the glass.
Seems like he's good for one or two of those a game.
It's strange to say but I think Lou is going to be remembered historically. His baiting moves on the perimeter without driving is unprecedented. I think a lot of players are going to seriously take notice
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 35853 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:32 pm Post subject:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
0514 wrote:
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Why would Minnesota do that? LaVine is averaging 20 PPG on 46% from the field. He's already better than both Lou and Deng. He's also ten years younger than either. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Lou has been absolutely ballin' this season. While some would attribute that to a hot start, I actually think Luke is using him better than any coach ever has. Playing him in a small ball unit leaves the lane wide open. Lou has two PnR bigs (Nance, Black) that can finish to help him clear space. He has another attacking guard (Jordan) teams have to honor and an auxiliary ball handler (Ingram) so teams have a hard time loading up on him. The unit can effectively switch which limits the issue of Lou getting wiped out from a screen (one of his defensive challenges). Quietly, the Laker Lineup of Death (LLD) is built around Lou.
As Ingram develops his ball control, Randle develops his Pick n Pop shooting, and Russell learns to play a bit more off ball, you start to have some pretty interesting combinations with three ball handlers, spacing and rebounding, all to go with defensive versatility. That includes Young who gives you better spacing while you offset the ball handling with Ingram and Randle. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144464 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:03 am Post subject:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
0514 wrote:
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Yeah, why try for the playoffs and to build something when we can just give our good players away. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Yeah, why try for the playoffs and to build something when we can just give our good players away.
That is the kind of mentality that has us hold onto Dwight and Pau too long because we were afraid of giving up good to build great. Holding tight to mediocre players. I don't really care about the playoffs this year and neither should the lakers. We aren't the bucks or the nets, just being ok and in the playoffs isnt the goal. When our young core grows up and then peaks, Lou won't be on this team...he will be out of the league at that point. Smartest move is to trade any older asset at this point for any roll of the dice that may net us an advantage when this team matures. Any moves to stabilize our roster or get wins now is simply just spinning our wheels.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144464 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:01 am Post subject:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
0514 wrote:
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Yeah, why try for the playoffs and to build something when we can just give our good players away.
That is the kind of mentality that has us hold onto Dwight and Pau too long because we were afraid of giving up good to build great. Holding tight to mediocre players. I don't really care about the playoffs this year and neither should the lakers. We aren't the bucks or the nets, just being ok and in the playoffs isnt the goal. When our young core grows up and then peaks, Lou won't be on this team...he will be out of the league at that point. Smartest move is to trade any older asset at this point for any roll of the dice that may net us an advantage when this team matures. Any moves to stabilize our roster or get wins now is simply just spinning our wheels.
We had Dwight for one season, I don't see how that was too long. And we had Pau traded in a great deal for us, but the commish vetoed it. And if you can't see the difference on where the team was then and is now, there is no help for you. But hey, Ingram is starting to look good, let's trade him. Randle is getting it, let's trade him. One DLO is healthy, time to move him to build something great. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Holy crap where would we be without Lou. ALOT of people were calling for him to get traded
Actually, this is the perfect time to trade him. Dude has been balling. He's going to want a big contract at the end of 17-18 and I can't see investing in a 32 year old who plays sub par D. He won't be part of our run to the playoffs in 18-19.
And then see what's up with Pekovich next year.....healthy he is better than Mosgov. If not healthy....then whatever, his contract is up at the end of next year anyway.
Yeah, why try for the playoffs and to build something when we can just give our good players away.
That is the kind of mentality that has us hold onto Dwight and Pau too long because we were afraid of giving up good to build great. Holding tight to mediocre players. I don't really care about the playoffs this year and neither should the lakers. We aren't the bucks or the nets, just being ok and in the playoffs isnt the goal. When our young core grows up and then peaks, Lou won't be on this team...he will be out of the league at that point. Smartest move is to trade any older asset at this point for any roll of the dice that may net us an advantage when this team matures. Any moves to stabilize our roster or get wins now is simply just spinning our wheels.
We had Dwight for one season, I don't see how that was too long. And we had Pau traded in a great deal for us, but the commish vetoed it. And if you can't see the difference on where the team was then and is now, there is no help for you. But hey, Ingram is starting to look good, let's trade him. Randle is getting it, let's trade him. One DLO is healthy, time to move him to build something great.
You know that wasn't the point I was making. DLO, Randle and Ingram are all part of our young core and need to be kept together...Lou is just an older chucker who signed here for god knows what reason and although he IS playing well now and winning games for us, is best used as a trade asset to help a rebuilding team.
The young guy I could see trading is JC and maybe Nance as a kicker if we can get someone really good.
I know you are better than that response...come on man.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144464 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:37 pm Post subject:
That is Philly type of thinking, bring in the young guys but not the vets that are needed to teach them how to play. And it is no surprise that the Lakers are playing better than Philly. Our FO is smart enough to know that making the playoffs, or even coming close, is a better way to progress than dealing for whatever $7 mil player Lou would bring in return. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
The Lou Williams All-Stars: An ode to tiny scoring guards
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If you didn’t watch Saturday night’s Lakers-Grizzlies game, I can’t really blame you. Each team is missing its starting point guard; Mike Conley is sidelined with a back injury, while D’Angelo Russell is nursing a bad ankle.
Injuries are frequent in the NBA. That is news to no one. The #DNPrest phenomenon is also frequent in the NBA. That, also, is news to no one. In an effort to conserve themselves for the playoffs, or perhaps simply due to the inherent attrition that comes with an 82-game schedule, it’s nearly impossible for the best of the best to suit up for every single game.
Those are the nights when the Lou Williams’ of the world shine. 3-and-D guys are extraordinary valuable role players, but if they’re not playing with shot creators, they’re essentially worthless. Somebody has to generate quality looks on offense, and when star players are out or a team simply needs second-unit scoring, guys like Williams become a necessity.
Make no mistake: Williams is having a great season, but not all of these players are good. Most aren’t, in fact. But over such a long season, there is value in a player who can get into the paint and create shots for himself or others. Often times, these guys jack up shots far more often than they should. But when they catch fire, like Williams and Troy Daniels did Saturday, it’s a gorgeous sight to behold.
Look up Lou's and Kyrie's per 36 numbers, they are identical _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
The Lou Williams All-Stars: An ode to tiny scoring guards
Quote:
If you didn’t watch Saturday night’s Lakers-Grizzlies game, I can’t really blame you. Each team is missing its starting point guard; Mike Conley is sidelined with a back injury, while D’Angelo Russell is nursing a bad ankle.
Injuries are frequent in the NBA. That is news to no one. The #DNPrest phenomenon is also frequent in the NBA. That, also, is news to no one. In an effort to conserve themselves for the playoffs, or perhaps simply due to the inherent attrition that comes with an 82-game schedule, it’s nearly impossible for the best of the best to suit up for every single game.
Those are the nights when the Lou Williams’ of the world shine. 3-and-D guys are extraordinary valuable role players, but if they’re not playing with shot creators, they’re essentially worthless. Somebody has to generate quality looks on offense, and when star players are out or a team simply needs second-unit scoring, guys like Williams become a necessity.
Make no mistake: Williams is having a great season, but not all of these players are good. Most aren’t, in fact. But over such a long season, there is value in a player who can get into the paint and create shots for himself or others. Often times, these guys jack up shots far more often than they should. But when they catch fire, like Williams and Troy Daniels did Saturday, it’s a gorgeous sight to behold.
At this moment he is our best player not just scoring, but is the guard with the best AST/TO ratio and a fair amount of assists for a "chucker".
I enjoy our youth movement, but that kind of extremely bias somewhat annoys me. It seems like some folks just can't appreciate any player not called Russell, Randle or Ingram playing well
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