A New Facilitator?

BigEvil · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject:

Kobe wasn't free of turnovers and boneheaded plays as a facilitator either. My point was that his "mindset" was that of a facilitator do to his play on the court. Whether he's effective is another matter.

And I don't see why he can't improve his skills like most other PG's/facilitators that apply themselves over time.

I think it's just important to make a distinction between the mindset and the current skills of a player. A mindset is much harder to change/work on than particular skills.

Canuck · Star Player Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 1316

I hear what your saying, but woudn't you say that your mindset is a direct reflection of how effective you are?

Shapecity · Starting Rotation Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 527

I don't think the offense is the main problem of the Lakers. Their biggest problem is on defense and not being able to get stops down the stretch. Whether it's early foul trouble, slow rotations, zero transistion defense, not boxing out, double teaming the wrong people, etc.

The offense gets in trouble when the Lakers play from behind. They start to panic and everyone stands around and waits for #8 to bail them out.

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Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

something I posted in another Lamar thread...

3 things We can do with Odom:

1) Continue playing him at the point-forward position and watch him fail miserably.
2) Move him to a different role and maximize his abilities. He's not a point and let's stop forcing the issue with him. He doesn't have point guard skills, and most likely won't have any.
3) Trade him.

I go with #2, if we don't want to go to #3. I'm done with option #1 - it's a failed experiment.
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QuietStorm · Rookie Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Posts: 20 Location: SFV

I spoke with a former college player, and we felt that Profit was a candidate to be the facilitator before he was injured. The team misses his presence off the bench as he was a 'glue' guy that the Lakers hoped McKie would be. Without him, the bench is wildly inconsistent which contributes to the team's overall inconsistency. Besides, Tex loves him and endorsed the idea in November.

I was hoping that we would eventually see Profit, Kobe, Odom, Kwame, and Mihm as our starting 5 with Profit assuming the facilitator duties. Kobe and Lamar would then serve as backup facilitators when necessary.

Devin Green is at least a year away from contributing in this role; another guy that Tex endorses.

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Addicus · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:58 am Post subject:

Have patience people. Why? This excerpt is from this month's issue of Dime magazine. It is written by Kobe Bryant himself. He is referring to learning his roles during the championship years:

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Maybe many of you don't understand. Kobe is a scorer. That is what he is best at, thats what he views himself as, and most importantly thats what Phil wants this team to work through.

You don't take away the defining strength of your ball club to get the #2 guy to fall in line. Everyone is put in the best position for the team, not for their own success.

Odom is put in the facilitator role because thats what the team needs out of him. If he can't handle it, then he needs to be replaced by someone who can. But don't believe that Odom would have more success on anywhere else on the floor.

Forget team defense umbrella so many are hiding on, Odom can't defend the block. You need the necessary size and strength to start or you're losing the battle before it even begins. Why is the Laker interior defense better this year than last? Because Kwame Brown is keeping bodies away from the basket. Odom gets plenty of long rebounds but he's not controlling the glass ala Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard. Can anyone remember Odom just skying over the opposing team for the boards or controlling the ball in traffic? No. He's multi-talented but he's not KG.

Hopefully LO starts to get it through the second half of the season. But if the year finishes like he's playing now, he'll be replaced this summer by someone who has the mindset to play that role. But it won't be Kobe.

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numero-ocho · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:54 am Post subject:

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Wolfpaclaker again with his team defense crap.

Thought he would stop after Sky owned him time and time again.

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wolfpaclaker · Retired Number Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58344

Oh so I must be dreaming that the Lakers have the best 3 point defense in the NBA?

Or that they are one of the best rebounding teams?

Or that they are top 10 in the PPG differencial of offense and defense?

Please. Team defense is incredibly important. The Pacers didn't have JO or Artest yet they shutdown the Lakers through good team defense.

Mike@LG · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: A New Facilitator?