Why wouldn't a combo of Kobe & P. Pierce work?

Showtime_Returns · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject:

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And I say Odom's rebounding numbers aren't that important. Not only are his numbers inflated because he plays significant amount of time at PF, but he has to compete with Mihm and Kwame in the frontcourt. Do a comparison Pierce averages exactly 2 less rebounds than Odom. Last time I checked you need to score to win.

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vicman · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:

hell forget pierce go after AI. i knwo not enough basketballs but they both seem to have alot of respect for each other.

hisairness#8 · Star Player Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 1892

I think pierce is a better fit for this team then odom. I've been backing up odom but his play of late has been just downright sucky. At least Pierce is a consistant scorer and he is not as crazy as artest but also not as soft as odom. If he was to come to LA phil would make it work and pierce is a better pippen then odom.
C. Chris Mihm
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Krispy Kreme · Franchise Player Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 12252

i think it would work. Pierce IMO could be just as good as a "initiator" as Lamar, and offensively there is no contest. also Pierce is clutch as hell. Question is, would he welcome being the #2 option?

RG73 · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Jul 2001 Posts: 11508

As for the not enough balls to go around, one could say that is the case with all the sackless players we have now.

As for shot attempts, Pierce only averages 17 or so FGAs per game. Odom is at 12. Assuming total team FGAs remain constant, Kobe could decrease his FGAs to around 22 per game, Pierce could then get about 17 per game. That seems reasonable given that Kobe takes a number of forced shots per game, and with Pierce he'd actually be able to kick it out of double teams to someone who could make the shot. Kobe's FG% would likely increase from less forced shots, so the dip in scoring would be minimal. Probably from 36 down to 30-32. Pierce is good for 24-26 off 16-18 shots per game. If Pierce wanted more shots, fine, take them away from Kwame or Smush. They can both score 30+. Works for me.

lakerMark · Starting Rotation Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 478

Kobe and Pierce or any 19 point a game player beats this Kobe and Odom thing because most of the time it is Kobe and Kobe, who knows where this Odom character is at 90 percent of the time.

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Sidious · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:

K8KillerInstinct · Starting Rotation Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 434

Pierce would work great in LA. He can create his own shots, gets HOT like Kobe, is a CONSISTENT shooter, a pretty good defender too. Most importantly is he is #1 or even better #2 scorer that the Lakers need. If Odom leaves that just means Kwame & Mihm & Cook & Bynum have to pick up the rebounding slack. No biggie.
Pierce to LA (actually any good #2 player that the Lakers need now!!)
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koolruningz · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject:

Well this exact trade worked for me bigtime on NBA Live, so i'll say yes.

KB8LJ23 · Starting Rotation Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 100

I would like this trade to go down. Pierce and Kobe is better than Odom and Kobe. Both work hard and have that kill mentality. Odom is just too passive. And, when he does want it at crunch time he makes the stupidest mistakes. (SEE Sac game) Kobe and Pierce better than Odom and Kobe. Cause what is this team besides Kobe? This team needs a real second option and I will hope that us as Lakers fans. Start telling mitch that we want a trade. I don't care what we give up. Odom and a 1st rounder or so. Just get us a real second option. Not to mention that I like Pierce. Only thing is that he has a big ego. But, we've been known to check big egos before.

Walter Sobchak · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject:

Kobe and Pierce would only work if there was a great facilitator to go with them. Both of those guys play best when someone else can feed them the ball, and you know Kobe's not going to want to go back to being the distributor, especially for Pierce. IMO the Lakers have a greater need for role players who can be good outside shooters, good defenders, good ball handlers and passers, and above all, very smart players. With Kobe playing as good as he is, if the Lakers can just get guys to fill up the rest of the stat sheet with their part and play great cohesive defense, that'll be enough to put them near the top of the league.
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koolruningz · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:

Have there ever been any rumours of Pierce coming to LA or any interest from the management in him?

LakersRGolden · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject:

So which is easier - Replace Odom with Pierce and Smush with an initiator with D, or replace Smush or Brown with a 17 point per game scoring threat that D's up?

Sounds about even to me.

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lakeshow03 · Star Player Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3083

ive always disliked pierce for some reason,but right now it would be a upgrade for this team but i dont think theres any chance it happens cnosidering how emplay says how pleased they are with odom

Freakout · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject:

Sidious · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:

Odom plays a lot of power forward whenever Mihm or Kwame have to go out, which is quite frequent. Pierce can't do that. I don't see what's so hard to understand about it. But regardless, it's pointless to argue about a trade that's not going to happen.

The Dagger · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject:

I think they could play a mean two man game. Especially if Kobe has the ball. You double him it goes straight to someone he actually trusts and is worthy of so. Pierce would prosper as Stay Puff once did.
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Smel Counts · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

Celtics won't do it. We'd have to throw in some draft picks as well, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. We need talent.

vanexelent · Retired Number Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 30081

I'd make the trade for Pierce and next year go after Antoine Jamison. We would have 2 legit 20-25 ppg guys and 1 30-35 ppg guy, in Kobe. With that scoring we could hang with any team. Jamison and Pierce are solid rebounders.

pjiddy · Retired Number Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 29077

anyone who pretends to know that Pierce and Kobe wouldn't work together is full of it. You have no idea whether they would work well together. what's your evidence? that they're both shooters? they both have huge egos? that's it? that's your argument? i don't know which argument is weaker and both are based on rudimentary speculation. Kobe has an ego for sure, but when has Pierce ever gone on a huge ego trip? He's been stuck on a crappy Boston team with almost a new coach every year and an-ever changing roster. The guy doesn't complain and puts up huge numbers. Why can't Pierce be a pippen type player? I don't mean a guy who does everything Pippen does, I just mean an excellent #2 scorer that could be a #1 somewhere else, but would work as a #2 under the right alpha dog. Pierce isn't quite the rebounder Odom is, but he's WAY WAY WAY more of a scoring threat. Enough with the "we need Odom's rebounding" arguments. The development of Turiaf and Bynum will supplant Odom's rebounding production. We need someone who can shoot the friggin' ball.

pjiddy · Retired Number Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 29077

I'd give them Odom, George, and a future #1, maybe even 2 #1's (they will be late-rounders anyway)