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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:36 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.


I prefer parsons if healthy to batum
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:29 am    Post subject:

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dood23 wrote:
Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.


I prefer parsons if healthy to batum


I agree. If we get him. He can help recruit D Howard
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:21 am    Post subject:

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dood23 wrote:
Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.


I prefer parsons if healthy to batum


I agree. If we get him. He can help recruit D Howard


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:34 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject:

I definitely am encouraged by the play from Hibbert, Bass, Randle, Upshaw, and Lou so far this preseason. I had very little doubt that Clarkson would continue to impress and think that DLO has too much innate skill and instinct to fail. It's not inconceivable that our core may already be set at the C, PF and guard positions. I've been focusing on targeting two MAX free agents. We still need a superstar (*cough*-Durant), but maybe now we dedicate the rest of our cap space on depth instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:27 pm    Post subject:

ksmgf wrote:
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dood23 wrote:
Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.


I prefer parsons if healthy to batum


I agree. If we get him. He can help recruit D Howard


Don't you even joke about that lol. I don't think Dwight Howard's game is going to age very well. To me, he's still heavily reliant on his athleticism.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject:

Batum looked fantastic last night, scoring/rebounding/assisting. Still intrigued by him as our SF if Durant goes elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject:

ksmgf wrote:
Jim99187 wrote:
dood23 wrote:
Hopefully we don't fruitlessly chase KD and lose Batum in the process. Then we'll hear that KD just "wanted to experience free agency."

Good sophomore years from Russell and Randle could make Batum a great pickup.


I prefer parsons if healthy to batum


I agree. If we get him. He can help recruit D Howard


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject:

I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.
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Monroe's decision to spurn the league's glitziest markets marked a significant shift in a league where cold, Midwest towns were once ignored in July. But with the league's highest-paid endorsers residing in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, payrolls skyrocketing and a restrictive salary cap prohibiting teams from stockpiling the most talent, the playing field for a team like Milwaukee to compete for top talent has been leveled. "It just shows that maybe we're doing something right," Kidd said. "It used to be about the city. Now I think it's about winning. I think the world's gotten smaller. All games are on TV now."


https://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-greg-monroe-came-to-choose-the-bucks-over-the-knicks-and-lakers-084520720.html

Lakers take note. FAs want a winning core.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:13 am    Post subject:

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Monroe's decision to spurn the league's glitziest markets marked a significant shift in a league where cold, Midwest towns were once ignored in July. But with the league's highest-paid endorsers residing in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, payrolls skyrocketing and a restrictive salary cap prohibiting teams from stockpiling the most talent, the playing field for a team like Milwaukee to compete for top talent has been leveled. "It just shows that maybe we're doing something right," Kidd said. "It used to be about the city. Now I think it's about winning. I think the world's gotten smaller. All games are on TV now."


https://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-greg-monroe-came-to-choose-the-bucks-over-the-knicks-and-lakers-084520720.html

Lakers take note. FAs want a winning core.


What has Milwaukee won?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:21 am    Post subject:

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Monroe's decision to spurn the league's glitziest markets marked a significant shift in a league where cold, Midwest towns were once ignored in July. But with the league's highest-paid endorsers residing in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, payrolls skyrocketing and a restrictive salary cap prohibiting teams from stockpiling the most talent, the playing field for a team like Milwaukee to compete for top talent has been leveled. "It just shows that maybe we're doing something right," Kidd said. "It used to be about the city. Now I think it's about winning. I think the world's gotten smaller. All games are on TV now."


https://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-greg-monroe-came-to-choose-the-bucks-over-the-knicks-and-lakers-084520720.html

Lakers take note. FAs want a winning core.


What has Milwaukee won?

41 games.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject:

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Monroe's decision to spurn the league's glitziest markets marked a significant shift in a league where cold, Midwest towns were once ignored in July. But with the league's highest-paid endorsers residing in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, payrolls skyrocketing and a restrictive salary cap prohibiting teams from stockpiling the most talent, the playing field for a team like Milwaukee to compete for top talent has been leveled. "It just shows that maybe we're doing something right," Kidd said. "It used to be about the city. Now I think it's about winning. I think the world's gotten smaller. All games are on TV now."


https://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-greg-monroe-came-to-choose-the-bucks-over-the-knicks-and-lakers-084520720.html

Lakers take note. FAs want a winning core.


What has Milwaukee won?

41 games.


Bingo. Get yourself to mid pack and be on the rise.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:09 am    Post subject:

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I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.


I feel like Dallas is headed for a rough season.
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Evan Turner is trash. His stats might be decent but if you watch him play he stinks.

Maybe he's not giving his all cause he plays on a Sixers and Celtics teams that sucks.


Reason enough to pass on him.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:23 am    Post subject:

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I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.


I feel like Dallas is headed for a rough season.


I do too. I've put them in the same category with the Lakers (most likely 9-12th range). Wes Matthews is taking a bit longer and Deron is a cantankerous MoFo. Dirk certainly didn't look like Dirk as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:32 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Evan Turner is trash. His stats might be decent but if you watch him play he stinks.

Maybe he's not giving his all cause he plays on a Sixers and Celtics teams that sucks.


Reason enough to pass on him.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:33 am    Post subject:

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I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.


I feel like Dallas is headed for a rough season.


I do too. I've put them in the same category with the Lakers (most likely 9-12th range). Wes Matthews is taking a bit longer and Deron is a cantankerous MoFo. Dirk certainly didn't look like Dirk as well.


There is a tremendous amount of potential fluidity in that cohort. Teams like Phoenix and Utah could be good, or take a step back. Same with Sacramento.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:46 am    Post subject:

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I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.


I feel like Dallas is headed for a rough season.


I do too. I've put them in the same category with the Lakers (most likely 9-12th range). Wes Matthews is taking a bit longer and Deron is a cantankerous MoFo. Dirk certainly didn't look like Dirk as well.


There is a tremendous amount of potential fluidity in that cohort. Teams like Phoenix and Utah could be good, or take a step back. Same with Sacramento.


True. But I see their "floor" as being higher than ours. At best I see us hovering around the 9-10th range.
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I'm still not sold at all on Parsons. I think he will crumble as he gets older. Just so injury prone.

I agree he would be an ideal guy in a new system (assuming we get a new coach) with more pace and space, but he's too brittle. Not sure I'd want to dump a max on that.


I feel like Dallas is headed for a rough season.


I do too. I've put them in the same category with the Lakers (most likely 9-12th range). Wes Matthews is taking a bit longer and Deron is a cantankerous MoFo. Dirk certainly didn't look like Dirk as well.


The Wes Matthews signing was just such a reactionary decision. Always be wary when the only other team willing to max a guy out is Sacramento. He'll start the season hurt along with Parsons. Then you're relying on Deron at the point. Zaza and Javale are your C's. They've been putting off their rebuild for a while now.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject:

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Monroe's decision to spurn the league's glitziest markets marked a significant shift in a league where cold, Midwest towns were once ignored in July. But with the league's highest-paid endorsers residing in Cleveland and Oklahoma City, payrolls skyrocketing and a restrictive salary cap prohibiting teams from stockpiling the most talent, the playing field for a team like Milwaukee to compete for top talent has been leveled. "It just shows that maybe we're doing something right," Kidd said. "It used to be about the city. Now I think it's about winning. I think the world's gotten smaller. All games are on TV now."


https://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-greg-monroe-came-to-choose-the-bucks-over-the-knicks-and-lakers-084520720.html

Lakers take note. FAs want a winning core.


What has Milwaukee won?

41 games.


Concur. I think the big market snub stories are overblown. Didn't Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady spurn the Chicago Bulls for Orlando about 15 years ago?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:30 pm    Post subject:

2016 is the year I think we will be really back

KD would be a dream...maybe... back up maybe max out the young Harrison Barnes... idk if Warriors would match

a core of Randle, Barnes, Clarkson, Russell would be nice....

still we are going sign a big between
Hibbert, Whiteside, Noah, Hortford

I'll be keeping a close eye on all those plus

plus one wing
KD(Dream), Barnes, Derozan, Parsons, Batum

Kobe could be brought back if he agrees to a pay cut... we shall see
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:06 am    Post subject:

So Noah is now playing backup center apparently.

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Noah is typically a team-first player who talks consistently about winning titles as his only goal. But moving to a reserve role, particularly in a contract year, would certainly test that resolve if Hoiberg opts for that route. “Coach is going to have a lot of decisions to make in terms of matchups and things like that,” Noah said recently. “Whatever Coach does, I’m cool with it.”


All things health-wise being equal, and assuming both command the same money, would you re-sign Hibbert or go after Noah in 2016?
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