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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 4:52 pm    Post subject:

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The BIGGEST pipe I have read so far:

Avery Bradley for Lou and our 2nd. Maybe the C's throw in Crowder and their #3.


How the bleep is Bradley for Lou and our 2nd a pipe????????????????????? Pipe for the Celtics you mean right??


I'm sure that's what he meant since he suggested the Celtics to add their #3 and Jae Crowder.


Okay good. Quite frankly I still don't even think I would do that if I were the Lakers. But it would be close.

maybe he meant Lou and a 2nd round pick for Bradley is a pipe?


Thanks Jackobe. Bradley is the ***BEST***defensive guard in the league, can score, is only 25, and still has a couple of years left on a cheap contract. The Celtics already turned down deals for Bradley the past couple of years which were far better offers.


My bad dude I thought you meant our #2 overall pick. Yeah Lou and our second round pick for Bradley is pipe for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject:

No, My bad. I was not very clear. Someone suggested that trade today and I could not believe it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
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Demar @ $25 mil
Biyombo @ $16 mil
Lance Thomas @$12 mil
John Leur @ $8 mil

Dlo/Clarkson
Demar/Lou/Clarkson
Thomas/Ingram/Derozan
Randle/Nance/Leur
Biyombo/Leur


Leur and Thomas at $20MM combined? No thanks

Again, that's 5 mil away from a max deal. I'd rather bring in short term guys like Matt Barnes, Courtney Lee, etc at high dollar amounts to free up cap again soon


Those short term guys are trash and wouldn't help the team get anywhere near the playoffs. Thomas and leur still young and can shoot
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
RI Laker wrote:
Jackobe wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
Gellollo wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
RI Laker wrote:
The BIGGEST pipe I have read so far:

Avery Bradley for Lou and our 2nd. Maybe the C's throw in Crowder and their #3.


How the bleep is Bradley for Lou and our 2nd a pipe????????????????????? Pipe for the Celtics you mean right??


I'm sure that's what he meant since he suggested the Celtics to add their #3 and Jae Crowder.


Okay good. Quite frankly I still don't even think I would do that if I were the Lakers. But it would be close.

maybe he meant Lou and a 2nd round pick for Bradley is a pipe?


Thanks Jackobe. Bradley is the ***BEST***defensive guard in the league, can score, is only 25, and still has a couple of years left on a cheap contract. The Celtics already turned down deals for Bradley the past couple of years which were far better offers.


My bad dude I thought you meant our #2 overall pick. Yeah Lou and our second round pick for Bradley is pipe for sure.



Not a trade I'd make today...I think our number 2 pick could be someone special as a player in a few years. That gives us control and player long ime. I know a bet but heck, just my O anyhow...
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:47 pm    Post subject:

According to Sean Deveney and Zach Lowe, NBA execs are saying the current going rate for Biyombo is $17 mil. Which means once the bidding war stats he probably gets $20 mil. I hope the Lakers are smart enough to not spend that much money on Bismack Biyombo.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:01 pm    Post subject:

cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:06 pm    Post subject:

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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?


lol....no. Deroz is a lil overrated.

He's lou 2.0, just more athlethic.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:07 pm    Post subject:

Deathstroke wrote:
2019 wrote:
Deathstroke wrote:
Demar @ $25 mil
Biyombo @ $16 mil
Lance Thomas @$12 mil
John Leur @ $8 mil

Dlo/Clarkson
Demar/Lou/Clarkson
Thomas/Ingram/Derozan
Randle/Nance/Leur
Biyombo/Leur


Leur and Thomas at $20MM combined? No thanks

Again, that's 5 mil away from a max deal. I'd rather bring in short term guys like Matt Barnes, Courtney Lee, etc at high dollar amounts to free up cap again soon


Those short term guys are trash and wouldn't help the team get anywhere near the playoffs. Thomas and leur still young and can shoot




Leuer at 7/8 mill per would be a real nice deal in this day and age...

He shot 38% from 3, and was about 17 and 11 per 36...

Stretch 5, solid back up, and can add depth to the 4 when needed... If Whiteside is out, and Biyombo can be had for 17/18 mill (doubtful now) then leuer at 7 and Biyombo at 17/18 could be a nice combo. Biyombo as a rim protector and rebounder, and leuer as a stretch 5 opening up the court in spurts.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:12 pm    Post subject:

Honestly, I know Whiteside is young and hitting his prime, same with Biyombo, but I would rather pay Horford the max if he wants to come. At least with Horford you know what you are getting and will be a huge asset to the young guys as they develop.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:18 pm    Post subject:

Yeah man Horford would be a great get. Luke Walton would utilize the bleep out of him too.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:20 pm    Post subject:

FreakofNature wrote:
cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?


Is this a serious question? Of course we do!
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:21 pm    Post subject:

Oliver Reed wrote:
Honestly, I know Whiteside is young and hitting his prime, same with Biyombo, but I would rather pay Horford the max if he wants to come. At least with Horford you know what you are getting and will be a huge asset to the young guys as they develop.


Dont get the love fest with Horford. Hes a very good player but his best days are behind him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:30 pm    Post subject:

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Honestly, I know Whiteside is young and hitting his prime, same with Biyombo, but I would rather pay Horford the max if he wants to come. At least with Horford you know what you are getting and will be a huge asset to the young guys as they develop.


Dont get the love fest with Horford. Hes a very good player but his best days are behind him.


so are Lebron's but he is still very good. Horford is still very effective and his game has shown no signs of significant decline.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:34 pm    Post subject:

Check out DD doing work in the post. Great footwork.



Playing he and DLO together at guard puts a lot of pressure on opponents to play big in the backcourt.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:37 pm    Post subject:

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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?


well, that's one of the things I wondered about Biyombo. Can he sustain that type of energy for 30 minutes/game for a whole season and what happens when he doesn't have that energy? What does he bring when he doesn't have the energy? Not much...

DeRozan, 2-8, no 3 pointers attempted despite being down 30ish for the whole game...
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:47 pm    Post subject:

Can someone answer me how much cap we would have next year if hypothetically we maxed two players this year?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject:

Oliver Reed wrote:
Honestly, I know Whiteside is young and hitting his prime, same with Biyombo, but I would rather pay Horford the max if he wants to come. At least with Horford you know what you are getting and will be a huge asset to the young guys as they develop.


I'd rather not end up paying a 34 year Al Horford 30 million a year.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:57 pm    Post subject:

Horford
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Parsons or bazemore : cap created by dumping Lou
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:59 pm    Post subject:

HumanVictoryCigar wrote:
FreakofNature wrote:
cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?


well, that's one of the things I wondered about Biyombo. Can he sustain that type of energy for 30 minutes/game for a whole season and what happens when he doesn't have that energy? What does he bring when he doesn't have the energy? Not much...

DeRozan, 2-8, no 3 pointers attempted despite being down 30ish for the whole game...


Agreed on biyombo.

I am confused as to why DeRozan doesn't even try to shoot the 3 ball
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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz? :P :wink:
Neither are worth what they're going to get. Pass on both.
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Dave20 wrote:
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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?
Neither are worth what they're going to get. Pass on both.


Too bad FO doesn't think the same way.

DeMar DeRozan: starting SG for los Angeles Lakers

Clarkson to bench where he belongs
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:01 pm    Post subject:

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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz?


Is this a serious question? Of course we do!



Nope, it wasn't...
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HumanVictoryCigar wrote:
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cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz? :P :wink:


:lol: well, that's one of the things I wondered about Biyombo. Can he sustain that type of energy for 30 minutes/game for a whole season and what happens when he doesn't have that energy? What does he bring when he doesn't have the energy? Not much... :lol:

DeRozan, 2-8, no 3 pointers attempted despite being down 30ish for the whole game...
DeRozan taking long 2's when he can just take one step back for a 3 tells me he's a low IQ player and has no confidence in his 3pt shot. His style of play is frustrating to watch.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject:

Jim99187 wrote:
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FreakofNature wrote:
cavs thumping raptors....Do we still want Biyombo and deroz? :P :wink:
Neither are worth what they're going to get. Pass on both.


Too bad FO doesn't think the same way.

DeMar DeRozan: starting SG for los Angeles Lakers :cheers:

Clarkson to bench where he belongs
Mitch thinks otherwise. Pathetic game 5 for DeRozan.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:09 pm    Post subject:

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Can someone answer me how much cap we would have next year if hypothetically we maxed two players this year?


Anybody that could give me a breakdown of our current cap situation I mean I understand we have close to 60 million to spend this year but what does that mean going forward? I would appreciate the help thanks in advance.
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