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Bard207
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| Tony Anapolis wrote: | If the season goes as I hope I would say:
Resign Hibbert 2 year deal like Jordan Hill only alot more money of course.
Resign Clarkson longterm
Resign Bass to a 3 year deal
Sign Batum longterm
Lakers probably have about 5-8 million in cap space after these moves. Sign a player to a one year deal?
Russell/Clarkson/Lou
Clarkson/Lou/Young
Batum/A Brown/Nance
Randle/Bass/Nance/Batum
Hibbert/Upshaw/Randle/Bass
Its not fireworks, but the team could be solid defensively with some shooters.
Then opt out of the Hibbert deal and go after Westbrook in 2017. Maybe Hibbert resigns to go for a chip?
I could see it going down like this? |
Hibbert will turn 30 during the 2016 - 2017 season.
If he does well this season, he will probably be looking for a secure multi year contract rather than the more risky two year contract with a team option that you have suggested. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:15 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I admit freely that DRoz is an inefficient chucker who is limited due to his poor 3 point shooting. But when has inefficiency been an issue on a Byron Scott team anyways? 
I wouldn't mind a solid Horford/Batum/Hibbert summer if possible.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Voices wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Interesting point. Having 2 max spots will change things IMO. Maybe not durant but with other FAs. Of course this depends a lot on Kobe's future too. |
What is so interesting is the league has totally changed, out with the old in with the new. Can the Jim Buss Lakers bring the Lakers back to being an NBA power?
Good work.....a true fan |
I think one of the more underrated "free agents" in 2016 is a new head coach. Will the Lakers eat Byron's last guaranteed year to bring in a fresh face?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:45 am Post subject: |
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I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
Well, I can see Durant doing a 1 year deal to become a player with 10 years experience and therefore qualify for the next max tier. However, not certain he re-ups to the full 5 year deal.
I think Westbrook is an independent decision. He may stay, he may leave, but if he leaves, I think Lakers are the primary destination.
What do you think of trying to get Horford/Noah and using remainder on a few wing players?
Noah
Horford/Randle
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Clarkson
DLO
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| I'd pass on both Noah and Horford because of injury concerns. I prefer Hibbert especially in the Western Conference. He's a perfect fit for Randle and he's a better defender then Horford or Noah. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | I'd pass on both Noah and Horford because of injury concerns. I prefer Hibbert especially in the Western Conference. He's a perfect fit for Randle and he's a better defender then Horford or Noah. |
Noah is understandable, but I think you could strong arm them to take a slightly lesser deal to play together.
I like Hibbert, but let's see him play first. I hope 2014-15 was just an outlier, b/c in 2012-14 he was an all-NBA defender.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: |
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$60 mil in cap space?
Go big strategy. The Lakers won't be the only one.
Durant. Horford. Conley.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | $60 mil in cap space?
Go big strategy. The Lakers won't be the only one.
Durant. Horford. Conley. |
I think those guys are eligible for 25m each.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
I can live with DRoz but def not at max prices.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | $60 mil in cap space?
Go big strategy. The Lakers won't be the only one.
Durant. Horford. Conley. |
I think those guys are eligible for 25m each. |
It's a critical year for the Lakers. It would really help if two of the Laker young players prove to be reliable, quality starters at a bare minimum.
If it's $25mil each, then so be it. Durant, Conley. Not too clear on how the timing works with the cap, but Hibbert, Randle/PF, Durant/Brown, Clarkson, Conley is quite formidable. It may not be the most attractive package on the floor for Durant and Conley, but it's a solid squad with a great location.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
I can live with DRoz but def not at max prices. |
(GM Masai) Ujiri also could swing a deal involving part of his core. Whispers continue to circulate that DeMar DeRozan's camp will be after the new mid-max (a whopping $25.3 million) a year from now and there is no way the Raptors will be comfortable footing that bid.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25228503/rumor-raptors-could-look-to-trade-demar-derozan
look at his shot chart : yuck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIss0b0WUAE_1EC.png |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
I can live with DRoz but def not at max prices. |
(GM Masai) Ujiri also could swing a deal involving part of his core. Whispers continue to circulate that DeMar DeRozan's camp will be after the new mid-max (a whopping $25.3 million) a year from now and there is no way the Raptors will be comfortable footing that bid.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25228503/rumor-raptors-could-look-to-trade-demar-derozan
look at his shot chart : yuck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIss0b0WUAE_1EC.png |
Yeah, if DRoz wants to be a Laker it'll have to be lower than that. And it's up to him. I personally would rather have Batum.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: |
Yeah, if DRoz wants to be a Laker it'll have to be lower than that. And it's up to him. I personally would rather have Batum. |
i prefer if healthy Chandler Parsons then Batum.
i dont really care for volume chucker Demar |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Yeah, if DRoz wants to be a Laker it'll have to be lower than that. And it's up to him. I personally would rather have Batum. |
i prefer if healthy Chandler Parsons then Batum.
i dont really care for volume chucker Demar |
Yeah, but that's the problem with Parsons. His health. Pretty troubling he's so hurt with such few minutes/age.
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| ^ The thing with DRoz is that his shooting and FT attempts fell off somewhat last year. If it's injury related like Batum and he returns to his previous upwards trajectory, I can see a couple of teams taking hard looks at him. He's also one of those guys who would benefit from a more structured offense. |
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| fiendishoc wrote: | | ^ The thing with DRoz is that his shooting and FT attempts fell off somewhat last year. If it's injury related like Batum and he returns to his previous upwards trajectory, I can see a couple of teams taking hard looks at him. He's also one of those guys who would benefit from a more structured offense. |
I think a guy like Batum works better with DLO/Clarkson.
If we came out with Batum/Horford/Hibbert (assuming he plays decently), would be an A summer for me.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
I can live with DRoz but def not at max prices. |
(GM Masai) Ujiri also could swing a deal involving part of his core. Whispers continue to circulate that DeMar DeRozan's camp will be after the new mid-max (a whopping $25.3 million) a year from now and there is no way the Raptors will be comfortable footing that bid.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25228503/rumor-raptors-could-look-to-trade-demar-derozan
look at his shot chart : yuck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIss0b0WUAE_1EC.png |
That is why I think the Raptors signed Demarre Carroll.
Caboclo is still developing while Ross and/or DeRozan might not be in the long term plans of the Raptors. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Bard207 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | I think Durant re-signs with OKC which means Westbrook and Ibaka will do the same. Horford stays with Hawks and Batum goes to Raptors.
Lakers 2016 offseason
1. Sign Derozan to the max
2. Re-sign Hibbert
3. Clarkson gets a big payday |
DeRozan wants 25.$$ max which he is not worth it. I will happily pass on him |
I can live with DRoz but def not at max prices. |
(GM Masai) Ujiri also could swing a deal involving part of his core. Whispers continue to circulate that DeMar DeRozan's camp will be after the new mid-max (a whopping $25.3 million) a year from now and there is no way the Raptors will be comfortable footing that bid.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25228503/rumor-raptors-could-look-to-trade-demar-derozan
look at his shot chart : yuck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIss0b0WUAE_1EC.png |
That is why I think the Raptors signed Demarre Carroll.
Caboclo is still developing while Ross and/or DeRozan might not be in the long term plans of the Raptors. |
ya let hornets pay 25/yr and not us |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| 20 million is the highest im willing to give to DeRozan. And also, isn't he a free agent in 2017? We're just assuming he opts out next year, which he likely will |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | 20 million is the highest im willing to give to DeRozan. And also, isn't he a free agent in 2017? We're just assuming he opts out next year, which he likely will |
I think 20 million is grossly overpaying a very ordinary results at high usage player. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | 20 million is the highest im willing to give to DeRozan. And also, isn't he a free agent in 2017? We're just assuming he opts out next year, which he likely will |
yupe i agree. in 2017 he will get more then 2016 for sure when the cap is 108something |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | WeDidItReddit wrote: | | 20 million is the highest im willing to give to DeRozan. And also, isn't he a free agent in 2017? We're just assuming he opts out next year, which he likely will |
I think 20 million is grossly overpaying a very ordinary results at high usage player. |
Well given how our front office has been doing and with 60 million in cap space, id say its safer to spend the money on someone rather than get no one, which i think is a legitimate possibility. As long as it isnt like a super long deal like 5 years, id say at 2-3 years it doesnt look so bad once the cap jumps again in 2017 |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
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