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| Quote: | | Quite the contrary, Young is well respected in the locker room, some of the young guys love hanging out with him. |
And this is the problem.
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| Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. 
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Quote: | | Quite the contrary, Young is well respected in the locker room, some of the young guys love hanging out with him. |
And this is the problem. |
I don't see a problem. Unless you think all the players are immature kids who will never grow up. The problem is more with fans than with players.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young and a pick is never good, we have few picks and to waste one is a really dumb idea.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Quote: | | Quite the contrary, Young is well respected in the locker room, some of the young guys love hanging out with him. |
And this is the problem. |
I don't see a problem. Unless you think all the players are immature kids who will never grow up. The problem is more with fans than with players. |
That's silly. What good can come out of 19-20 year olds hanging out with Swaggy? Nothing.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more. |
Yeah, b/c having multiple long defenders is a bad thing to have. He'd be an exceptional mentor for Ingram and someone who could also play 3 positions (SG/SF/PF).
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more. |
Yeah, b/c having multiple long defenders is a bad thing to have. He'd be an exceptional mentor for Ingram and someone who could also play 3 positions (SG/SF/PF). |
He can't play SG, we have a mentor in Deng and the PF position is stacked to the point that Deng will likely not get many minutes there. We do not need Ariza unless he wants to ride the bench. Deng will get most if not all of his minutes at SF, I hope Ingram gets the rest.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more. |
Yeah, b/c having multiple long defenders is a bad thing to have. He'd be an exceptional mentor for Ingram and someone who could also play 3 positions (SG/SF/PF). |
He can't play SG, we have a mentor in Deng and the PF position is stacked to the point that Deng will likely not get many minutes there. We do not need Ariza unless he wants to ride the bench. Deng will get most if not all of his minutes at SF, I hope Ingram gets the rest. |
Ariza played 3 positions last year, including SG. He hounded PGs and defended 4 positions (PG-PF). This would make Lou another trade chip.
What we utterly lack is defense at the perimeter positions. Ingram will be the best one, but he's too green. Add Ariza and you balance out the offense-first guys in DLO/JC.
Again, Rox say no to this b/c they probably value Ariza.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more. |
Yeah, b/c having multiple long defenders is a bad thing to have. He'd be an exceptional mentor for Ingram and someone who could also play 3 positions (SG/SF/PF). |
Why would we get Ariza when we have Deng and Ingram, and we have Randle and Nance at the 4, and we have Mozgov, Black, Yi and Zubac at the 5?
And Lou Williams is already our vet scorer off the bench and isn't playing the 1, and Calderon is our vet table setter and a great point guard to have for backup 1 in the offense we run.
There's no place for Ariza on this team.
And Ingram is already going to have Deng, Brian Shaw, and Keefe as mentors and player development guys, and Kobe whenever he comes in to work with the kids.
So there's that too.
the truth and fact of the matter is, Young is our 3rd string small forward. |
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| I like Ariza and his contributions but i prefer CJ Mcdaniels over Ariza |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young and a pick is never good, we have few picks and to waste one is a really dumb idea. |
We just got 2 more second rounders, although, we are set to lose 2 more second rounders if the team tanks this year. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | I like Ariza and his contributions but i prefer CJ Mcdaniels over Ariza |
McDaniels for Young would be good for both teams imo |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Young + 2nd round pick for P. Beverly is a good pipe, MDA's obsession with offense might give us hope for that deal to go down. |
Young + 2nd for Ariza. |
Yeah, let's bury Ingram a little more. |
Yeah, b/c having multiple long defenders is a bad thing to have. He'd be an exceptional mentor for Ingram and someone who could also play 3 positions (SG/SF/PF). |
Why would we get Ariza when we have Deng and Ingram, and we have Randle and Nance at the 4, and we have Mozgov, Black, Yi and Zubac at the 5?
And Lou Williams is already our vet scorer off the bench and isn't playing the 1, and Calderon is our vet table setter and a great point guard to have for backup 1 in the offense we run.
There's no place for Ariza on this team.
And Ingram is already going to have Deng, Brian Shaw, and Keefe as mentors and player development guys, and Kobe whenever he comes in to work with the kids.
So there's that too.
the truth and fact of the matter is, Young is our 3rd string small forward. |
Eh. I'm not going to argue about a deal that the Rox would say no thanks to anyways.
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Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
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Next year KM has a team option while NY has a player option. Simply from that perspective it would be a good swap for LA. Young would be good injury insurance for Gordon. The numbers don't work straight up but a min filler gets it done.
If we expanded that a little, Young/Black for Ariza/McDaniels makes some sense for both teams. With Dwight gone and injury risk with Nene, Anderson and (presumably) DMO, Houston could use some big depth and Black fit nicely when he was there. Perhaps Ariza has more value to them, but they do have other wings they could play.
Super sized trade, Lou/Calderon/Black for Ariza/Beverly/McDaniels.
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | Next year KM has a team option while NY has a player option. Simply from that perspective it would be a good swap for LA. Young would be good injury insurance for Gordon. The numbers don't work straight up but a min filler gets it done.
If we expanded that a little, Young/Black for Ariza/McDaniels makes some sense for both teams. With Dwight gone and injury risk with Nene, Anderson and (presumably) DMO, Houston could use some big depth and Black fit nicely when he was there. Perhaps Ariza has more value to them, but they do have other wings they could play.
Super sized trade, Lou/Calderon/Black for Ariza/Beverly/McDaniels. |
why do we want beverly or Ariza? atleast black/calderon expire
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
Even MDA won't hand over all his defense. I'd side with the Lou for Beverly crowd, throw in a 2nd and get a much needed defensive guard. Plenty of minutes for the three guards and Calderon can be stashed until dealt, an injury or they can't buy a bucket. |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
Even MDA won't hand over all his defense. I'd side with the Lou for Beverly crowd, throw in a 2nd and get a much needed defensive guard. Plenty of minutes for the three guards and Calderon can be stashed until dealt, an injury or they can't buy a bucket. |
Would love to get Bev, but doubt Houston gives up basically 1/2 of their only capable defenders (other being Ariza).
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
Even MDA won't hand over all his defense. I'd side with the Lou for Beverly crowd, throw in a 2nd and get a much needed defensive guard. Plenty of minutes for the three guards and Calderon can be stashed until dealt, an injury or they can't buy a bucket. |
Would love to get Bev, but doubt Houston gives up basically 1/2 of their only capable defenders (other being Ariza). |
Lou
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Gordon
Anderson
Harden
He can really up his offensive system with that group. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
Even MDA won't hand over all his defense. I'd side with the Lou for Beverly crowd, throw in a 2nd and get a much needed defensive guard. Plenty of minutes for the three guards and Calderon can be stashed until dealt, an injury or they can't buy a bucket. |
Would love to get Bev, but doubt Houston gives up basically 1/2 of their only capable defenders (other being Ariza). |
Hey at least I'm only asking for one rather than both |
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| Quote: | Lou
Young
Goron
Anerson
Haren
He can really up his offensive system with that group. |
FIFY. No D in Houston.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Quote: | Lou
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Goron
Anerson
Haren
He can really up his offensive system with that group. |
FIFY. No D in Houston. |
MDAs teams have always give up 100+ for the opposition, he won't and doesn't want a defensive identity.
His system is only made for shooters, that's why it's called 7 secs or less. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Young for P.Beverly
Lou for Ariza.
MDA gets 2 scorers on his team. |
Even MDA won't hand over all his defense. I'd side with the Lou for Beverly crowd, throw in a 2nd and get a much needed defensive guard. Plenty of minutes for the three guards and Calderon can be stashed until dealt, an injury or they can't buy a bucket. |
Would love to get Bev, but doubt Houston gives up basically 1/2 of their only capable defenders (other being Ariza). |
Lou
Young
Gordon
Anderson
Harden
He can really up his offensive system with that group. |
Omg that squad LOL. Even D'Antoni doesn't want that. |
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