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| Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
We don't know about clarkson yet because his new contract will depend on how he does this year...but i'd say he gets around 10 million and durant gets about 25, so about 25 million left over? |
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| Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
15 million seems a bit over, but then again if clarkson plays like a 15 million per year player this season, I'll happily admit i was wrong |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
15 million seems a bit over, but then again if clarkson plays like a 15 million per year player this season, I'll happily admit i was wrong |
Well, the rookie max for example, in 2016 will be around 21m. So that's under the rookie max.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Do we have hibbert bird rights? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Lakers_Jester wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Do we have hibbert bird rights? |
Yes. He will have a sizeable cap hold, but I get the sense he would be open to re-signing with the Lakers. I don't think he's a max contract candidate either.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Clarkson needs to play an all star level for him to get 15.
10 is realistic |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Clarkson needs to play an all star level for him to get 15.
10 is realistic |
Not really. If he put up 16/5/5 I think that's worth 15m. The question is whether a team will try to make an offer which would invoke the Arenas rule.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Clarkson needs to play an all star level for him to get 15.
10 is realistic |
Not really. If he put up 16/5/5 I think that's worth 15m. The question is whether a team will try to make an offer which would invoke the Arenas rule. |
he is somewhere 10-12m range. but we dont know that till the upcoming yr ends.
so lets shelf this conversation this then. he needs to stay healthy first |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Clarkson needs to play an all star level for him to get 15.
10 is realistic |
Not really. If he put up 16/5/5 I think that's worth 15m. The question is whether a team will try to make an offer which would invoke the Arenas rule. |
he is somewhere 10-12m range. but we dont know that till the upcoming yr ends.
so lets shelf this conversation this then. he needs to stay healthy first |
Shelf it? Why? This whole thread is speculative and the poster asked for a reasonable estimation. He is able to post 16/5/5 and with the cap going up 25%+, 15m isn't beyond the realm. I'd actually put it something like 12-15m is his range, though I secretly hope he gets an offer that we match.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Clarkson needs to play an all star level for him to get 15.
10 is realistic |
Not really. If he put up 16/5/5 I think that's worth 15m. The question is whether a team will try to make an offer which would invoke the Arenas rule. |
he is somewhere 10-12m range. but we dont know that till the upcoming yr ends.
so lets shelf this conversation this then. he needs to stay healthy first |
Shelf it? Why? This whole thread is speculative and the poster asked for a reasonable estimation. He is able to post 16/5/5 and with the cap going up 25%+, 15m isn't beyond the realm. I'd actually put it something like 12-15m is his range, though I secretly hope he gets an offer that we match. |
next thing u know like randle he is out for an yr. atleast let him perform couple of more games and we will see |
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Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~ |
fingers crossed 
so freaking done with the injuries.
I appreciate whatever Vitti has done for the lakers but I am extremely happy & looking forward to put in a athletic trainer who will use 2015/2016 sports health concepts
+ the analytics guy who kings let go would be awesome |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~ |
When Yinoma tells you to be more positive, that's sayin' something... |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~ |
When Yinoma tells you to be more positive, that's sayin' something... |
with the way last 3yrs(since nash broke leg) have gone even the most optimistic person turns into a pessimistic
no surprise there |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~ |
fingers crossed
so freaking done with the injuries.
I appreciate whatever Vitti has done for the lakers but I am extremely happy & looking forward to put in a athletic trainer who will use 2015/2016 sports health concepts
+ the analytics guy who kings let go would be awesome |
Every day, I search for "Dean Oliver" to see if there is anything more recent than him leaving the Kings.
It has been quiet so far. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Come on Jim...good vibes! Think positively~ |
When Yinoma tells you to be more positive, that's sayin' something... |
Gets it. 
The very fact that I'm high on this upcoming season (even if it's not a playoff squad) should be revealing.
I'm the proverbial rock bottom and we are just bouncing off of it and heading upwards!
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| Surprised not to hear much talk about Kobe. What if he has a strong season and is then willing to resign for $5-10 million per year for 1-2 years? |
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| markjay wrote: | | Surprised not to hear much talk about Kobe. What if he has a strong season and is then willing to resign for $5-10 million per year for 1-2 years? |
the sun has to set at some point. |
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| markjay wrote: | | Surprised not to hear much talk about Kobe. What if he has a strong season and is then willing to resign for $5-10 million per year for 1-2 years? |
Will Kobe do that? I'm not sure he would reduce himself to a Manu level salary and role.
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(I compiled this list using multiple 2016 free agency lists, so if there are any mistakes I apologize).
2016 Free Agents:
Unrestricted:
Kevin Durant
LeBron James (P)
Dwight Howard (ETO)
Mike Conley
Al Horford
Roy Hibbert
Al Jefferson
Demar DeRozan (ETO)
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Pau Gasol (P)
Joakim Noah
Dirk Nowtizki (P)
Dwyane Wade
Tim Duncan (P)
Loul Deng
David Lee
Joe Johnson
Lance Stephenson (T)
Deron Williams (P)
Eric Gordon
Timofey Mozgov
Josh Smith
Jamal Crawford
Chandler Parsons (P)
Hassan Whiteside
Kevin Martin (P)
Nicolas Batum
Nene Hilario
Mo Williams (P)
Restricted:
Bradley Beal
Andre Drumond
Michael Kidd Gilchrist
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Lakers_Jester wrote: | | If we get durant and give clarkson a pay day, how much will that leave us in cap? |
Depends. Assuming Durant at 25, Clarkson at 15, that's 20m in cap space left. |
Do we have hibbert bird rights? |
Yes. He will have a sizeable cap hold, but I get the sense he would be open to re-signing with the Lakers. I don't think he's a max contract candidate either. |
So would we have approx 20m left over before or after his caphold? |
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Whether or not we get our #1 guy, we need to start building a contender rotation which to me is at least 8 players as coaches tend to shorten their rotation in the playoffs. That means at least 3 bigs and 5 perimeter players (at least 3 capable of playing guard). My hope is that we already have 5 of those guys (Russell, Clarkson, Randle, Lou, and Brown). Hibbert could be #6.
So we need at least 1 big (2 if Hibbert leaves) and a starting SF. Potential FA #1s available the next 2 summers are Durant, Westbrook and Curry.
IMO, we only get Durant if we also get a first-rate big to come. That's Horford, maybe Whiteside if he makes another huge leap this year. We should be able to sign a decent 2nd-tier big (Nene/Jefferson/Hibbert maybe Noah/Mozgov) with the leftover cap room. Next summer, you have the option of amnestying the latter and pursuing Ibaka.
Otherwise, we strike out on Durant/Horford (likely) and can go after second-tier guys but leave enough cap room to go after Westbrook/Curry in 2017. We'll have the option of amnestying Lou as he'd become extraneous.
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Sid go after Horford and Batum
Hibbert - Upshaw
Horford - Randle - Bass
Batum - Young - Brown
Clarkson - Lou
Russell - FA |
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| a2j1m wrote: | Sid go after Horford and Batum
Hibbert - Upshaw
Horford - Randle - Bass
Batum - Young - Brown
Clarkson - Lou
Russell - FA |
Agreed. That's my realistic plan B. However it would require signing hibbert or another center as horford may want to play PF. We could certainly have a horford/Randle lineup too.
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