The League should be embarrassed that Yao and McGrady are on the AS Team

LakerFan4L · Starting Rotation Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 972

How in the hell is Garnett or Marion NOT starting at forward and Duncan at C?
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Den686 · Rookie Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 7

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Yao is stealing Brand's spot.

The front court should be:

SF: Marion
PF: Brand
C: Duncan

Elton and Matrix got robbed.

Hector the Pup · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject:

There's one other small explanation for Yao and TMac making the starting roster...

The freaking All Star Game is in freaking HOUSTON

Just thought I'd mention that.

kobeodom · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:

i believe yao is a 20/10/2blk guy (i didnt check), that plays fairly tough, and that is loved by NOT JUST CHINESE FANS around the world. yao, if he were in the old days, would not deserve a start. but look, who else in the west at the c position could start? i could think of one over yao, no more. and as for tmac, just because he is a moron on offense and does not know when to stop shooting the rock, dont mean he shouldnt go to the allstar. hes statistically pretty good, despite the injuries he got this season. and who would you put as sf over him? maybe kg or dirk, or i might be missing a few others. but not much more.

AND just to let you know, i am chinese, im not that offended at this thread for being called a "doll", but chinese fans not only like rockets. they like the lakers as a second choice. hope you realize that.

trying not to be offensive here, to any posts. just pointing things out.
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Sidious · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:

unpossibl1 · Starting Rotation Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 179

The Chinese votes obviously are a factor...remember Yao's rookie year when he started over Shaq?

This year, yeah Yao should be the starter at C. However, someone like Marion, Brand, Allen, Gasol, etc will be left off of the All Star team because Yao has a spot. If you were really picking a team based on talent, Duncan should be allowed to slide to the C spot and Yao kicked off to allow someone more deserving to be on the squad.

It's close though, if Yao had played the full season then I would say he definetely deserves an All Star spot. Does he deserve to get more votes than anyone else in the league? Hell no.

It seems that every year though the fans pick at least one completely undeserving player into the game. Last year (and a few before that) was Vince Carter. Yao was in as a rookie. Jamal Magloire was an All Star one year (although not by fan vote). This year it's Yao and TMac.

All we can do at this point is hope that Avery Johnson gives Yao and Tmac like 1 minute of playing time and then benches them in favor of Garnet and Marion or something...but with the game being in Houston I really doubt that will happen.

Hector the Pup · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject:

Then why wasn't Wang Zhi Zhi a perennial all star?

tgf5 · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject:

They don't deserve to be starting, after injuries and everything. Look at their team record too. Obviously shows they've been injured so they shouldn't be there. That's like putting Amare on the starting lineup.

Socks · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject:

Tough all around - especially forwards in the west, someone gets jobbed every year. Have you guys seen Stein's article on this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2317052

I think he makes pretty good choices with good explanations here.

Yao deserves this as much as anyone. The coaches will ensure Brand, Marion and Garnett get picked.

Legacy · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject:

Yao and T-Mac are among the best players in the league. But Yao doesn't deserve all those votes. Nobody here can tell me that all the people from China that voted, didn't vote for Yao. We do have a lack of quality centers in the west, and Yao is probably the one for the job, but still, he doesn't deserve all those votes. If not for China, Kobe would be the leader in votes this year.

Not to mention, Yao had the most votes in All Star history last year. Not because he is that good, but because he was born in China.

.......I wonder what would happen if Kobe was born in China.

Sidious · Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:

Kobe has the most votes in your heart. It's funny, that Kobe realistically had the most votes. And people said that Kobe couldn't win the fans back. All it took was averaging 35 a game.

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The All-star game is in Houston. It would be lame if at least one didn't go. I'd guess Yao will be the MVP.

drzucchini · Franchise Player Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 16327

Am I supposed to be embarrassed, too? I voted for both, and guess what? I voted for Vince Carter, as well.

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China has four times the population America has yet has half the amount of internet users compared to the US. You guys need to stop being so ignorant. Yao led all UNITED STATES votes over all centers over the past few years. It is what it is. This is the All-Star voting system for the NBA so deal with it or don't watch the All-Star game, simple as that. You guys don't need to bash a whole country though.

How many people in China do you think can afford computers and internet service? Do you guys know what China's terrain looks like? You assume they have telephone lines and cable lines running across the rivers and valleys and mountain sides of China? Some cities in America don't have cable internet service do you think a billion Chinese, a lot of whom are poor live like we do here in the US? Like someone else said already "this happens every year". Do me a favor, close your eyes or something when TMac and Yao enter the game, don't watch the game at all, boycott. :roll:

lakerboy · Star Player Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 2524

the worst player of all starters is the one with the most votes.

yeah i guess it has nothing to do with china :roll:

hopefully someone can explain me why david wesley got more votes then jason richardson?? because he is a rocket? and chinese people who votes for yao also vote for wesley?

i dont say all of yao's votes are from china, but i guess its nearly 50%

Warlord23 · Starting Rotation Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 239

Why the hate against Yao? Sure he is an over-hyped stiff, but we're talking about the center spot in today's NBA, a position that is almost devoid of talent since the mid-90s (the Olajuwon/Robinson/Mourning/Ewing/Shaq era). Heck, why Yao, do you think Ben Wallace or Camby would have sniffed an ASG in that era? Since somebody has to get picked at the pivot spot, why not Yao.

Secondly, the Chinese vote has only increased Yao's lead, but the US vote itself is in favor of Yao, as it has been for the past couple of years. So even if the Chinese vote is thrown out, Yao would start anyway.

Thirdly, why pretend that this is a new phenomenon? Hasn't Vince Carter started on enough All-Star games whil tanking his way to 35-win seasons?

LTD · Starting Rotation Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 463

"The league should be embarrassed that Kobe Bryant is a starter on the All star team."

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kqiu2210 · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:46 am Post subject:

Its a shame that society still breeds people like you.

trunkz550 · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 185

My issue is that the all-star game starters should be for those that are having an all-star season, THIS YEAR! I know that its a popularity contest as well but those players that did not preform great this year should not get the start. Kobe should have been the top vote-getter hands down. I don't have as much of a problem with Yao starting because there aren't very many great/healthy centers in the west. But Yao should not have been the top vote-getter. T-mac should not be starting because he missed a lot of games and his play has been worthy of a starter this year, not over guys like Marion, Duncan, Brand and KG. I felt the exact same way, with T-wacks hating cousin Vince Retarder. Its sad that because yao has so many fan votes in China he was the top vote getter when he did not deserve to be and again tmac shouldn't be starting. I don't care if the game is in Houston. Kobe for MVP's baby!

Exick · Site Staff Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 15880

The All-Star game has been like this for a long time. How is there still outrage about undeserving guys making the squad? And who gives a (bleep) if it's the Chinese's fault?