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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: ESPN Projects Lakers to finish 14th of 15th in the West

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13431835/2015-summer-forecast-west-standings

Projected record of 26 wins. The last couple years, ESPN projected similar finishes and we all for the most part thought they were crazy. With the west being so loaded this year, I understand the projection this year

Only team picked to finish under the Lakers is the Timberwolves but I think they will actually be respectable this year. I believe the race to the bottom of the west will between the Blazers, Lakers and Nuggets.

Only teams in the East projected to finish with less wins is the Sixers and Knicks (who I think will actually challenge for a playoff spot

Here's to hoping to the ping pong balls landing our way
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject:

Ugh. They've been on the mark the last few years, so I'm going to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. But I think (hope) the team gets over 30 wins. Still that may only be 12-13 range.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:35 am    Post subject:

Dallas is going to win 41 games? based on what?

Parson's coming from a severe knee injury
Wes Matthews coming from torn ACL. if kobe couldnt do it i doubt Wes Matthews does it
Nowitzki got much older.

they lost: Chandler, Monta, Aminu

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject:

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Ugh. They've been on the mark the last few years, so I'm going to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. But I think (hope) the team gets over 30 wins. Still that may only be 12-13 range.


In fairness, they've been right because the worst case scenario surfaced.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject:

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Ugh. They've been on the mark the last few years, so I'm going to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. But I think (hope) the team gets over 30 wins. Still that may only be 12-13 range.


In fairness, they've been right because the worst case scenario surfaced.


Which is pretty much what happened. I think I took a look at their past forecasts and they were pretty spot on, but for the Nash/Dwight year where they overrated the team.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject:

Generous again, I had them at 25.

That's not the worst case scenario either. If they get off to a bad start and the personal agendas and youthful selfishness come to the forefront it can be 20 or 21.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:50 am    Post subject:

The Lakers had a 28% winning % in the 35 games Kobe played last year. That would be about 23 wins over the course of the year

I say the bottom 4 in the NBA next season will be the Lakers, Blazers, Nuggets, and of course sixers
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:52 am    Post subject:

I am going with unrealistically optimistic until the Lakers prove me wrong.

I look at those projections and see the speculation that 41 wins earns the 8th seed. Lakers "only" have to improve by 20 wins to get in.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:02 am    Post subject:

35 wins is my estimate. Reading Pincus' tweets the other day he said he thinks the team is barely a .500 team. I'd take that all day long.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:05 am    Post subject:

Well, our success depends on a 36-year-old player coming back into form after 2 injury-riddled seasons; a lazy headcase at center showing he still cares; and a bunch of untested rookies. It's probably reasonable to amuse more could go wrong than could go right.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:09 am    Post subject:

If I had to guess, I'm at the 25 to 35 wins pocket. That's probably good for 12-13th at best.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:12 am    Post subject:

I also find it kind of scary that so few updates are coming from Kobe's rehab. A lot of people are just penciling him for starting night as if he's not currently recovering from shoulder surgery that was suppose to hold him out for 9 months from January 28th.

9 months from 1/28 is right on opening day I believe.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:13 am    Post subject:

I think the Laker record next May will reveal them to be one of the five or six worst teams in the West again (under 40 wins), and that's barely a sneeze from what ESPN projects.

The team will be better than last year, marginally. It's one step forward.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject:

70sdude wrote:
I think the Laker record next May will reveal them to be one of the five or six worst teams in the West again (under 40 wins), and that's barely a sneeze from what ESPN projects.

The team will be better than last year, marginally. It's one step forward.


Marginally better is exactly what ESPN is predicting.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:17 am    Post subject:

Jim99187 wrote:
Dallas is going to win 41 games? based on what?

Parson's coming from a severe knee injury
Wes Matthews coming from torn ACL. if kobe couldnt do it i doubt Wes Matthews does it
Nowitzki got much older.

they lost: Chandler, Monta, Aminu

lol


They also lost Deandre
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject:

hibbert alone will add 5more wins to the lakers by his defense.

rest depends on how many games kobe plays and what contributions we randle/russell/lou and n young

all our trash from last yr is gone
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject:

Whatever. It's dumb to expect much in the rookie year of our top pick, just look at Durant/Westbrook. I just hope we see progress.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject:

As AV said, it hinges on Kobe, the growth of our young players, and Hibbert.

I like the Hibbert/Lou/Bass signings b/c they will help during our young core's growing pains.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:44 am    Post subject:

I stopped caring what ESPN think about bball long ago... LC is pretty much their only dude I trust
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:01 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Ugh. They've been on the mark the last few years, so I'm going to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. But I think (hope) the team gets over 30 wins. Still that may only be 12-13 range.


In fairness, they've been right because the worst case scenario surfaced.


Which is pretty much what happened. I think I took a look at their past forecasts and they were pretty spot on, but for the Nash/Dwight year where they overrated the team.


Right, the Lakers have had about three seasons trending toward the worst case scenario.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject:

I'm optimistic on this one, as a competitor I always try to see where we can overachieve but i realive im not realistic here. 8th seed I think is possible if things go very right. Byron while a meh coach, actually might let the guards do what they please since that's usually what byron does, stay out of the way of the lead guards. Hopefully this allows rusell and clarkson to grow quickly and impress. Hibbert alone will drastically Improve our defense. Our bench I think is underrated, we actually have depth. 2 legit 6th men, and solid shooters and roleplayers. Even a guy like jabari brown can go off on any given night.

If byron can be a leader of men and stays out of the X's and os stuff, letting the creators figure it out (since we have so many) I hope we can surprise.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:03 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
70sdude wrote:
I think the Laker record next May will reveal them to be one of the five or six worst teams in the West again (under 40 wins), and that's barely a sneeze from what ESPN projects.

The team will be better than last year, marginally. It's one step forward.


Marginally better is exactly what ESPN is predicting.


To me the record is not as important as us seeing the young 3 display amazing promise...

30-35 wins seems likely. Hopefully we'll luck into the top 3 again.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:03 pm    Post subject:

24 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Ugh. They've been on the mark the last few years, so I'm going to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. But I think (hope) the team gets over 30 wins. Still that may only be 12-13 range.


In fairness, they've been right because the worst case scenario surfaced.


Which is pretty much what happened. I think I took a look at their past forecasts and they were pretty spot on, but for the Nash/Dwight year where they overrated the team.


Right, the Lakers have had about three seasons trending toward the worst case scenario.


I do think we can finally trend upwards this year, even if we don't hit the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:10 pm    Post subject:

A lot has to go wrong for that to happen. Then again, that pretty much explains the past few Laker seasons.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:22 pm    Post subject:

No Way!!

We are going to at least make the 13th spot!!

Stupid BSPN....
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