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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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Is kobe's Achilles and his knee's fine? Don't see any recent reports on these topics. We're the Achilles and knees slowing him down last season? I forget



He said his lower body feels better than ever
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:10 pm    Post subject:

did he get his old mobility back or still non explosive ala 2014-2015?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:07 pm    Post subject:

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did he get his old mobility back or still non explosive ala 2014-2015?


No one certainly gets more explosive the older they get...I'll be happy with some post ups, some 20 footers and 1 or 2 3's...hopefully he doesn't get beat to badly on defense.

I consider a successful season for him if he averages 18-20 ppg...the team wins 35-41 games and he ends up winning a gold. That would be a nice wrap up for his career.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:15 pm    Post subject:

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did he get his old mobility back or still non explosive ala 2014-2015?


It's not going to get better from here on out. But, I attribute last year to rust more than age. I don't think he took a huge drop off in mobility or explosivenss compared to the last couple of seasons.

The play that pretty much ended his season was him getting by his defender and dunking.

https://youtu.be/2KzFW0jRRDo

It's going to be less frequent. But, there's still something there.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Being a couple years removed from his achilles injury, Kobe could start the season with surprisingly-good, athletic quickness.
But I still hope Scott keeps his minutes on a short leash.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:21 am    Post subject:

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Being a couple years removed from his achilles injury, Kobe could start the season with surprisingly-good, athletic quickness.
But I still hope Scott keeps his minutes on a short leash.


Well, I doubt Kobe's going to focus his attack based on athleticism. He could be the #1 most fit 37 year old in the world, but going up against kids in their 20s means he'll still be at a major athletic deficit.

However, what I'm looking for is the showing of 20 years of brilliant basketball. Seeing him put every trick out there. If he's trying to dunk on people or will himself against younger players athletically, it won't be a good season for him. If he shows us the whole portfolio...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject:

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Being a couple years removed from his achilles injury, Kobe could start the season with surprisingly-good, athletic quickness.
But I still hope Scott keeps his minutes on a short leash.


Well, I doubt Kobe's going to focus his attack based on athleticism. He could be the #1 most fit 37 year old in the world, but going up against kids in their 20s means he'll still be at a major athletic deficit.

However, what I'm looking for is the showing of 20 years of brilliant basketball. Seeing him put every trick out there. If he's trying to dunk on people or will himself against younger players athletically, it won't be a good season for him. If he shows us the whole portfolio...


To start the season, I wouldn't be surprised if Kobe shows short bursts of quickness. Since he couldn't shoot with his shoulder, I have a feeling he's been putting his lower body through a tough summer regimen.

But besides that, you're right.
Strength, top speed, stamina. His age will show.
Too bad he doesn't have a coach like Duncan's Pop.
That's a coach who knows how to milk old talent.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject:

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governator wrote:
did he get his old mobility back or still non explosive ala 2014-2015?


No one certainly gets more explosive the older they get...I'll be happy with some post ups, some 20 footers and 1 or 2 3's...hopefully he doesn't get beat to badly on defense.

I consider a successful season for him if he averages 18-20 ppg...the team wins 35-41 games and he ends up winning a gold. That would be a nice wrap up for his career.


yea, I remember watching MJ posting up over and over as a Wizard and still dropping 20+ on 45%FG. Just felt like last year Kobe was missing a ton of shots and still firing. Hope he gets room to work on the low block... Hibbert better understand
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject:

Kobe was very spry in the early part of the season. I remember the dunk he had against the Clippers when he drove past Matt Barnes and had that emphatic finish.

As the season went along, he started to break down. Byron didn't help the situation by playing him an obscene amount of minutes; he was playing Kobe like he was 26 as opposed to 36.

WTS, I'm not expecting much out of him this year. 52-55 games, hopefully more efficient, and becomes a good mentor for the youth on this team.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:34 am    Post subject:

lukewaltonsdad wrote:
Kobe was very spry in the early part of the season. I remember the dunk he had against the Clippers when he drove past Matt Barnes and had that emphatic finish.

As the season went along, he started to break down. Byron didn't help the situation by playing him an obscene amount of minutes; he was playing Kobe like he was 26 as opposed to 36.

WTS, I'm not expecting much out of him this year. 52-55 games, hopefully more efficient, and becomes a good mentor for the youth on this team.


Yeah, I'd feel better if he plays more age-appropriate. He doesn't need to prove that he can still be great....he already is.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:43 am    Post subject:

He was just NOW cleared to starting shooting?! WTH?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:58 am    Post subject:

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He was just NOW cleared to starting shooting?! WTH?


why are you surprised?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject:

Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:15 am    Post subject:

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He was just NOW cleared to starting shooting?! WTH?


why are you surprised?


So how long has it been since he's shot a basketball?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:02 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


playing with DLO, Jordan, Kobe and Randle, I see hibbert averaging 16points

he didnt play with a single playmaker in indy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
22 wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
He was just NOW cleared to starting shooting?! WTH?


why are you surprised?


So how long has it been since he's shot a basketball?


about 7 months
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:09 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


playing with DLO, Jordan, Kobe and Randle, I see hibbert averaging 16points

he didnt play with a single playmaker in indy


I don't think Hibbert's ever averaged that much (12.8 ppg is his highest). I think he'll stay more around 11-12 ppg range. He's even said that offense won't be his #1 priority.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:12 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Jim99187 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


playing with DLO, Jordan, Kobe and Randle, I see hibbert averaging 16points

he didnt play with a single playmaker in indy


I don't think Hibbert's ever averaged that much (12.8 ppg is his highest). I think he'll stay more around 11-12 ppg range. He's even said that offense won't be his #1 priority.


Hibbert isn't great at lobs or cuts, so he will likely be most effective setting picks out high and then settling into his hot zone around the right elbow, or sometimes dropping to the weak side post area for rebounds.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:17 am    Post subject:

24 wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
22 wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
He was just NOW cleared to starting shooting?! WTH?


why are you surprised?


So how long has it been since he's shot a basketball?


about 7 months


21st January.



His last shot was that beautiful left-handed step back at 0:50
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:19 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Jim99187 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


playing with DLO, Jordan, Kobe and Randle, I see hibbert averaging 16points

he didnt play with a single playmaker in indy


I don't think Hibbert's ever averaged that much (12.8 ppg is his highest). I think he'll stay more around 11-12 ppg range. He's even said that offense won't be his #1 priority.


Hibbert isn't great at lobs or cuts, so he will likely be most effective setting picks out high and then settling into his hot zone around the right elbow, or sometimes dropping to the weak side post area for rebounds.


I was actually pleased when he said quarterbacking the defense was his priority. Lord knows we haven't had that mindset from a lead player for a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject:

24 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Jim99187 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Can't wait to see DLO play with more veterans who will catch his passes. I'm also looking to see improvement of his 3 point shooting as well. The other stuff will come in due time.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


playing with DLO, Jordan, Kobe and Randle, I see hibbert averaging 16points

he didnt play with a single playmaker in indy


I don't think Hibbert's ever averaged that much (12.8 ppg is his highest). I think he'll stay more around 11-12 ppg range. He's even said that offense won't be his #1 priority.


Hibbert isn't great at lobs or cuts, so he will likely be most effective setting picks out high and then settling into his hot zone around the right elbow, or sometimes dropping to the weak side post area for rebounds.


hibbert never played with a guy who can throw him any lobs. also indy offense was not at getting him or freeing him to get lobs.

indy never had any attacking pg where hibbert's man has to go help driving guard and leave hibbert open
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:40 am    Post subject:

I don't think they threw him lobs b/c he couldn't get them. He's not an above the rim player at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:42 am    Post subject:

Kobe most recent shooting summer 2015

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject:

DLaker wrote:
Kobe most recent shooting summer 2015



That was the summer of 2014
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject:

Kobe's a streaky 3 point shooter, I wonder if the shoulder injury/recovery will really limit his 3 point shooting this year, or if getting it fixed, he may fare a little better?
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