"It’s just awareness that this stuff still happens in 2015."
This is the kind of abuse of authority that has precipitated the widespread distrust felt by many in the civilian community.
How are citizens to have any respect and faith in lthe when this type of behavior is routinely exhibited and accepted by the law enforcement community?
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:05 am Post subject:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
As I grew older I learned when I made eye contact to give the one bob nod of hello, how are you? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Geese. I wish we'd change to just one policing academy that all prospective officers attended. Call it Police U and give em a football team. We need uniform standards, so there's less chance of running afoul of law enforcement due to all these varied approaches to policing. It's silly to expect the public to have to try to figure out what's acceptable behaviour as he travels through each individual locale. Eliminate all these chicken crap contacts. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
Someone like that should not be a police officer. Even if it wasn't a racial issue, police need to spend their time more efficiently than on these kind of garbage stops.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:02 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:02 pm Post subject:
If only he hadn't made eye contact, none of this would have ever happened. #PersonalResponsibility _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:37 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt.
I think what he's saying is the eyes show a lot of things that vary by person and context. Anyone saying you can determine guilt by meeting eyes with a stranger (and BTW, wouldn't failure to make eye contact be considered more a sign of guilt, if you're going with snap generalizations?) is basically just being arrogant about reading people, justifying making snap judgements on no evidence, or both.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:06 pm Post subject:
24 wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt.
I think what he's saying is the eyes show a lot of things that vary by person and context. Anyone saying you can determine guilt by meeting eyes with a stranger (and BTW, wouldn't failure to make eye contact be considered more a sign of guilt, if you're going with snap generalizations?) is basically just being arrogant about reading people, justifying making snap judgements on no evidence, or both.
OK. (JMK) _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject:
24 wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt.
I think what he's saying is the eyes show a lot of things that vary by person and context. Anyone saying you can determine guilt by meeting eyes with a stranger (and BTW, wouldn't failure to make eye contact be considered more a sign of guilt, if you're going with snap generalizations?) is basically just being arrogant about reading people, justifying making snap judgements on no evidence, or both.
Yep. The idea that you can train someone to detect guilt simply by looking at another person's eyes is laughable.
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt.
I think what he's saying is the eyes show a lot of things that vary by person and context. Anyone saying you can determine guilt by meeting eyes with a stranger (and BTW, wouldn't failure to make eye contact be considered more a sign of guilt, if you're going with snap generalizations?) is basically just being arrogant about reading people, justifying making snap judgements on no evidence, or both.
Yep. The idea that you can train someone to detect guilt simply by looking at another person's eyes is laughable.
Thats how I get out of jury duty. _________________ The journey to 17 begins...
When I was a kid I was told not to wave at a police officer, and I'm white. Its like poking the bear, many people think that police can't use reasonable judgment.
I don't get why this cop had his ego hurt so much that he had to pull someone over for looking at him. Seems very childish
It was 11 pm from moving vehicles I doubt anyone was able to put direct eye contact on anyone under those conditions. Government agents lie. What's new?
When I was young I didn't make direct eye contact with police in a cruiser. In LA they're trained to read the eyes for a signs of some sort of guilt. It's amazing how guilt can be read in the eyes.
You know that's BS right?
Not according to friends I knew on the force in the 60's unless you're talking about the eyes not showing guilt.
I think what he's saying is the eyes show a lot of things that vary by person and context. Anyone saying you can determine guilt by meeting eyes with a stranger (and BTW, wouldn't failure to make eye contact be considered more a sign of guilt, if you're going with snap generalizations?) is basically just being arrogant about reading people, justifying making snap judgements on no evidence, or both.
Most people think liars give themselves away by averting their eyes or making nervous gestures, andmany law-enforcement officers have been trained to look for specific tics, like gazing upward in a certain manner. But in scientific experiments, people do a lousy job of spotting liars. Law-enforcement officers and other presumed experts are not consistently better at it than ordinary people even though they’re more confident in their abilities.
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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When I was a kid I was told not to wave at a police officer, and I'm white. Its like poking the bear, many people think that police can't use reasonable judgment.
I don't get why this cop had his ego hurt so much that he had to pull someone over for looking at him. Seems very childish
Slaves were forced to not look their masters in the eye. It would be seen as sign of disrespect, that the slave possessed the notion that he was on equal footing as his master.
"You Given Me the Eye Boy?" _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
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