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kikanga
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| Sting wrote: | C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, Brown
SG: Russell, Lou, Brown, Frazier
PG: Clarkson, Marcelo, Buyuks
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Interesting that you have Russell slotted as a SG.
Not many people on LG slot him for that position.
I think the offense in summer league looked free flowing when DLo worked off-ball. So I get where you're coming from.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| At the moment I really want Clarkson to start at PG and Russell at SG. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| yuurin98 wrote: | | At the moment I really want Clarkson to start at PG and Russell at SG. |
Not me, I think Clarkson is probably the better at shooting the ball and while an argument can be made that Clarkson might at this time be a more reliable ball-handler, the key word here is "reliable" for the moment, I think Russell will pass Clarkson as far as ball-handling in a matter of months given enough playing time. |
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The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Agreed, at least 8 or 9 of those 10 are probably "locks" at this point. There is no telling what Coach Scott is looking for in the remaining spots.
Training camp will be interesting and entertaining to say the very least. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
I would add Nance, A.Brown and J. Brown and Huertas. I think the Lakers will go with at least 14 players and maybe 15 which would then include Kelly. I would say Huertas for sure if nothing more than he's just signed a new contract not to mention he brings a veteran presence to the back-court. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Nance, Brown (guaranteed deals, draft picks so a bit of FO prestige on the line) are locks. So too IMO is Huertas. That's 13?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Nance, Brown (guaranteed deals, draft picks so a bit of FO prestige on the line) are locks. So too IMO is Huertas. That's 13? |
Upshaw should not be in bold, he is most def not a lock. I think Huertas, A Brown, and Nance should be locks. I think we will consider moving/cutting Kelly and Sacre during camp if they suck. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| textbook wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Nance, Brown (guaranteed deals, draft picks so a bit of FO prestige on the line) are locks. So too IMO is Huertas. That's 13? |
Upshaw should not be in bold, he is most def not a lock. I think Huertas, A Brown, and Nance should be locks. I think we will consider moving/cutting Kelly and Sacre during camp if they suck. |
Upshaw is a lock if the Lakers are serious about him developing with the team. If the Lakers send him to the d-league then any team can sign him. |
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Folks I think are missing the likely possibility that it probably makes most sense to keep both Upshaw and Sacre. Why?
Because Hibbert isn't going to hand hold Upshaw. So he likely needs a 7 footer he can train with and go one on one with to aid development.
Ditch Kelly.
Probably ditch Holmes.
And Frazier vs Brown the best man wins.... (I think Brown)
Lakers are then at 15.
C: Hibbert, Black (can also play 4), Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle (Can play 3), Bass, Nance (Can play 3)
SF: Kobe (Can play 1-3), Young (can play 2)
SG: Clarkson (Can play 1), Lou, Brown
PG: DLO, Marcelo
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I doubt we need 4 centers. At most we will carry 3. So it comes down to Sacre (known quantity, good guy, but low ceiling) vs. Upshaw (unknown, questionable character, high ceiling).
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | I doubt we need 4 centers. At most we will carry 3. So it comes down to Sacre (known quantity, good guy, but low ceiling) vs. Upshaw (unknown, questionable character, high ceiling). |
We'll see after the preseason, but my guess is that Sacre will be with the team and Upshaw will start in the D-League.
If Upshaw stays under control and puts in the work, then at one point Sacre (or Black?) and Young will be packaged somewhere and Upshaw will be promoted to the Lakers.
There will be no rush decisions with Upshaw - we have already seen that. Everybody is super cautious with him.
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| Rivershow wrote: | | textbook wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Nance, Brown (guaranteed deals, draft picks so a bit of FO prestige on the line) are locks. So too IMO is Huertas. That's 13? |
Upshaw should not be in bold, he is most def not a lock. I think Huertas, A Brown, and Nance should be locks. I think we will consider moving/cutting Kelly and Sacre during camp if they suck. |
Upshaw is a lock if the Lakers are serious about him developing with the team. If the Lakers send him to the d-league then any team can sign him. |
No, Upshaw is not a lock and the reason is the bolded italic part. Huertas is locked because he won't have leaved Barcelona to be waived. It wil look like this :
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Nance, Kelly, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms,, Clarkson, Huertas, J.Brown, Frazier, |
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| pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
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| lakerican wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | textbook wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The Lakers potentially have 17 players set for training camp. Will they add three more for camp fodder or is this it?
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Kelly, Nance, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, J.Brown, Frazier, Clarkson, Huertas |
I bolded 10 people that should make the roster. Tough deciding who I'd put in the remaining 3 active roster spots. |
Nance, Brown (guaranteed deals, draft picks so a bit of FO prestige on the line) are locks. So too IMO is Huertas. That's 13? |
Upshaw should not be in bold, he is most def not a lock. I think Huertas, A Brown, and Nance should be locks. I think we will consider moving/cutting Kelly and Sacre during camp if they suck. |
Upshaw is a lock if the Lakers are serious about him developing with the team. If the Lakers send him to the d-league then any team can sign him. |
No, Upshaw is not a lock and the reason is the bolded italic part. Huertas is locked because he won't have leaved Barcelona to be waived. It wil look like this :
C: Hibbert, Black, Sacre, Upshaw
PF: Randle, Bass, Nance, Kelly, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms,, Clarkson, Huertas, J.Brown, Frazier, |
Totally agree, Huertas is on the roster for the reason you've mentioned. Upshaw has to earn his spot. And so are A. Brown and Nance for the same reasons previously stated.
For the last 3 open spots, assuming the Lakers go with 15 on the roster, as I see it the players making the roster in order of probability are Kelly, J. Brown and one of either Upshaw or Sacre (slight advantage to Upshaw) leaving Holmes, Frazier and either Upshaw or Sacre not making the club. |
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My best guess for the final roster would be:
C: Hibbert, Black, Upshaw, Sacre
PF: Randle, Bass, Nance, Kelly, Holmes
SF: Kobe, Young, A.Brown
Guards: Russell, L.Wms, Clarkson, Huertas, J.Brown, Frazier
So Sacre, Holmes, Frazier do not make the club. What I hope is that the Lakers can get a draft pick for Sacre so they get some value for him since centers even with his limited talent do represent value in the league instead of ending up with nothing.
Now with that there remains problems, both Frazier and Sacre are under contract with Frazier having a multi-year. How the Lakers deal with this is the question we have to wonder about. |
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