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yinoma2001
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| yuurin98 wrote: | | I'm wondering if it's really the defender who makes LeBron look bad or LeBron is actually declining in the last two years as there were much more tougher defenders last decade. |
A little of both. But that Warriors series was an outlier. They (he) chose to go down on his own terms, which was some of the worst basketball I've ever seen.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: |
Younger Pippen maybe, but I don't have as much confidence with the Pippen that started breaking down when he hit his 30s. |
I'd still take it. Age 33 he was playing 40mpg. Age 34 he wasn't exactly All D 1st, but neither is Iguodala.
I think we're talking about a regressed LeBron, a regressed Iguodala, and a slightly declining Pippen until he hit 2nd year in Portland.
A younger Pippen would have contained prime LeBron. I really believe that. Gone would be that 55% FG that LeBron had for years, because he could actually change direction off the dribble. Pippen had defended PG through C at All D 1st level for multiple years. Can't just replace that IQ, base, wingspan, hands, feet as easily, even if he got a bit slower. Size/IQ still remain. |
Agreed. Pippen would be the counter pick to LeBron if you're making an all time fantasy team or something |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | yuurin98 wrote: | | I'm wondering if it's really the defender who makes LeBron look bad or LeBron is actually declining in the last two years as there were much more tougher defenders last decade. |
A little of both. But that Warriors series was an outlier. They (he) chose to go down on his own terms, which was some of the worst basketball I've ever seen. |
He only really looked bad at the first part of last season. And then he took his suspicious mini-vacation and then regained 5 inches on his vertical.  |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Excluding Kobe this upcoming season.
Who will be the next Laker all star and in what year will they get it?
Wondering what everyone's guesses are.
Clarkson in 2017?
DLo or Randle in 2018?
Derozan or Horford in 2017?
Obscure high schooler we don't even know exists now in 2020?
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Clarkson shows the most upside so I would give it to him. I am hoping this year he fully blossoms into an All-Star 
The others are just "not enough information."
Of course, maybe it will be KD instead 
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just want this young team to show a willingness to play team ball.
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yuurin98
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I have to ask you guys....
Do you see Kobe being selected as an All-Star game starter for the coming season? |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| yuurin98 wrote: | I have to ask you guys....
Do you see Kobe being selected as an All-Star game starter for the coming season? |
I'd say that's a lock. |
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yuurin98
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I've found out that the 2012-13 Charlotte Bobcats had a 21-61 record, and then they finished the next season at 43-39.
Although both come from two different conferences but I still see hope that the Lakers can do the same like them. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| yuurin98 wrote: | I've found out that the 2012-13 Charlotte Bobcats had a 21-61 record, and then they finished the next season at 43-39.
Although both come from two different conferences but I still see hope that the Lakers can do the same like them. |
I'm with you in hoping, but the Bobcats benefited from a good coaching change. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| Just finished watching some vintage Kobe on YouTube... I forget how amazing he is. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:16 am Post subject: |
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My excitement for the lakers deflates a little every time I hear the names Byron Scott and Robert scare
Other than that looking forward to this season. Go lakers!!! |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| yuurin98 wrote: | I've found out that the 2012-13 Charlotte Bobcats had a 21-61 record, and then they finished the next season at 43-39.
Although both come from two different conferences but I still see hope that the Lakers can do the same like them. |
I prefer to hope (fantasize) the Lakers can follow the example of the 2001-2002 Nets w/Scott as HC. Went from 26 wins to 52 wins. From near the bottom defensively to 1st in Def rating.
I realize this is highly unlikely but it is still the pre-season, I can dream.
Plus I like the moves the Lakers have made so far. Optimistically, Lakers potentially could be better then expected. But the West is so deep with good teams it is ridiculous. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Can the season start already please!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Chronicle wrote: | | Can the season start already please! |
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| What I hate most is when the season is over after the first week. You find out that the Lakers suck and have absolutely no chance. |
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| KG24 wrote: | | What I hate most is when the season is over after the first week. You find out that the Lakers suck and have absolutely no chance. |
I have two expectations of the season:
The team being more competitive and actually looking to win games.
Rooting for the young guys to develop and show something. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm savoring the fact that the Lakers currently have the same record as last years champions....
You won't be able to say that come December...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | KG24 wrote: | | What I hate most is when the season is over after the first week. You find out that the Lakers suck and have absolutely no chance. |
I have two expectations of the season:
The team being more competitive and actually looking to win games.
Rooting for the young guys to develop and show something. |
Exactly this.
If thy make the playoffs its gravy. Although seeing Kobe return to form is one of my top wishes too.
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My random thought: There are far to many "Official" threads on LG!
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| 24 wrote: | | KG24 wrote: | | What I hate most is when the season is over after the first week. You find out that the Lakers suck and have absolutely no chance. |
I have two expectations of the season:
The team being more competitive and actually looking to win games.
Rooting for the young guys to develop and show something. |
Exactly.
Enjoy the ride.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Voices wrote: | | Just want this young team to show a willingness to play team ball. |
Bingo, I'm with you bro. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Kobe will have a good season not great and will ride off into sunset injury free while leading young guns to being respectable team again. |
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