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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Sharing a bathroom with a trans classmate: 150 high schoolers walk out |
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ringfinger wrote: | http://gawker.com/150-high-schoolers-walk-out-over-trans-classmate-using-1727969010?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
This is a tough one. My initial thought was that they ought to consider building a separate bathroom to accommodate both the trans person as well as the un-trans folks.
But then it gets weird because you'd have girls (who were boys) and boys (who were girls) in the same "trans only" bathroom.
There's no easy solution that'll make everyone happy. |
Yup. No way to make a girl feel comfortable changing around a guy who in his mind wants to be a girl. And it's uncomfortable the other way around too.
A trans only bathroom is still a better solution in my eyes though as opposed to the free for all it is now.
But you're right. Are schools going to have to build 4 separate bathrooms/locker rooms now to appease everyone now? What if someone comes up with a new orientation? Gotta draw the line somewhere |
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pmacla Star Player
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if you can pee standing up use the men's room otherwise use the women's |
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pmacla wrote: | if you can pee standing up use the men's room otherwise use the women's |
You do know women can urinate while standing don't you? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and Vagina?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a vagina you go to the vagina bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | pmacla wrote: | if you can pee standing up use the men's room otherwise use the women's |
You do know women can urinate while standing don't you? |
We CAN...but that will get real messy real fast. We don't have the gift of being able to just point and shoot. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
very eloquently put SC lol, but pretty much this.
I don't my daughter to have to change in front of a dude just because the dude wants to be a girl. |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
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frijolero01 Franchise Player
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Ok. This is getting nuts. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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frijolero01 wrote: | Ok. This is getting nuts. |
It is. I consider myself to be very openminded, but come the frick on. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
There are stalls if she is that uncomfortable, but...men have that problem as well. We have to endure urinals. We are "forced" to show our penises in front of other men too. The fear is unfounded anyway. Ain't nobody looking. The person you're peeing next to is just like you, they don't want to look, and they don't want you looking. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. |
Agreed. It's the very definition of he/she |
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frijolero01 Franchise Player
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hoopschick29 wrote: | frijolero01 wrote: | Ok. This is getting nuts. |
It is. I consider myself to be very openminded, but come the frick on. |
There has to be a line drawn somewhere. I don't give a crap what you identify as but, like a poster said above, if you have a dick, you use the men's room. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | hoopschick29 wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. |
Agreed. It's the very definition of he/she |
Thats the definition of sex, not gender.
USCandLakers wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
There are stalls if she is that uncomfortable, but...men have that problem as well. We have to endure urinals. We are "forced" to show our penises in front of other men too. The fear is unfounded anyway. Ain't nobody looking. The person you're peeing next to is just like you, they don't want to look, and they don't want you looking. |
Good point, they can just make sure there are privte stalls, thats pretty simple. I was only being facetious, and some devils advocate so to speak( I am not calling anyone a devil). As for the last part, if you go to a public gym in Los Angeles there are all types in the mens rooms. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | 22 wrote: | hoopschick29 wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. |
Agreed. It's the very definition of he/she |
Thats the definition of sex, not gender. |
Same thing lol.
Which is really the heart of this issue. Is a person's gender defined by their biological makeup or their mentality? I side with science and say biology lets us know what chromosomes they have
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pmacla wrote: | if you can pee standing up use the men's room otherwise use the women's |
I worked at a warehouse once, there was a tranny there, although you could tell by his muscularity she was actually a man, he would use the mens bathroom. I occasionally would see him using the urinal. No one thought anything of it. There was no problem. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. |
I wonder which public restroom Caitlyn uses? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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pmacla Star Player
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | hoopschick29 wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | USCandLakers wrote: | How about just labeling the bathrooms; Penis and (juvenile comment deleted)?
That solution leaves little doubt. Don't care whether you think you're a girl or you think you're a boy, you have a penis you get your ass in the penis bathroom, you have a (juvenile comment deleted) you go to the (juvenile comment deleted) bathroom.
No more people making a point about who they are inside by going into different bathrooms. Problem solved. |
Why should a girl be forced to show her penis in front of a bunch of men? |
Because if she has a penis, then she's a he. Period. Point blank. End of discussion. |
I wonder which public restroom Caitlyn uses? |
if camera's are rolling the ladies of course still cant convince me all that is not a PR stunt and a money grab |
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nickuku Star Player
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I am not a fan of urinals or that tub some bathrooms have where dudes pee in it while staring into each other's eyes. Who the hell came up with that? Honestly it should just be all stalls. _________________ Don't let perfect be the enemy of good |
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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pmacla wrote: | if you can pee standing up use the men's room otherwise use the women's |
nickuku wrote: | I am not a fan of urinals or that tub some bathrooms have where dudes pee in it while staring into each other's eyes. Who the hell came up with that? Honestly it should just be all stalls. |
_________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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rwongega wrote: | All this talk of pee, where's LAKERSCMXCIX? |
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Based on the penis vs. no penis principle previously established in this thread.
Where would the guy with the "bionic pecker" use the restroom?
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=175030 _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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The whole 'identifies with" phrase is silly to me. Either u have a dong or you don't. I identify as a swingin' ladies man, but my wife isn't exactly buying it. _________________ "Dread it, run from it... destiny arrives all the same." |
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