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Better career/player?
Pierce for both
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Allen for both
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Pierce for career, Allen for player
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Allen for career, Pierce for player
6%
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:43 pm    Post subject:

I know LeBron owes Allen a beer or two.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject:

Re-word the question. It should be: Which one would you want to drop down an elevator shaft more?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:56 pm    Post subject:

which one is the her? Or the ambiguous one? Pretty sure its Pierce.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject:

rwongega wrote:
Re-word the question. It should be: Which one would you want to drop down an elevator shaft more?


Ray Allen. "Another win in LA"... slag off coattail. Wheelchair at least learned from Hollywood. But then he'd go next. Stern first of course, as is proper.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject:

interesting question...

pierce tends to have the reputation of having a better career. But not sure if that's actually true. Allen has more rings, but never as the main guy. still I personally feel he might be the better player. i'm going with allen as the better career. to me, it seems the only advantage pierce had was staying with one team for so long, but then he left anyway. allen had to deal with the seattle turmoil.

i think pierce is a better all around player, just slightly. but allen had the better career. he saved lebron's butt big time. he also got away with a whole bunch of cheap stuff with kobe in the other ring he has. i hate both of them, to be honest. i respect pierce more, however. my god, great question.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:15 pm    Post subject:

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I know LeBron owes Allen a beer or two.

ray allen and tim thomas. both made lifesaver threes that i strongly wish were missed.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject:

I place them about the same. Allen is the better shooter, Pierce the better player, as he was more dynamic.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


I'd say they were very close, but I'd give the slight nod to Pierce in both cases.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:14 pm    Post subject:

I prefer Paul Allen, he can get reservation at Dorsia.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:47 am    Post subject:

Funny to see Pierce running away with this. Ray Allen is the greatest three-point shooter of all-time-- I never thought of Pierce as anything other than a mid-level all-star throughout his career.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:01 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Funny to see Pierce running away with this. Ray Allen is the greatest three-point shooter of all-time-- I never thought of Pierce as anything other than a mid-level all-star throughout his career.



Pierce was a dynamic, clutch player in his prime, capable of giving you 27-7-5. And here's fun one: Allen is #1 on the all-time 3-points made; Pierce is 4th. Pierce really has a great all-around game, but he was stranded on terrible Boston teams for most of his career. He's probably one of the top 10 best small forwards of all time.

That said, Allen isn't that far behind. He's in the same general tier as Pierce -- two great players.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


His/ Her peak So which one is the Her?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject:

They were both great players, and both were scum bags.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


His/ Her peak So which one is the Her?


That was actually completely unintentional. I automatically correct "their" to his/her and didn't catch it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Funny to see Pierce running away with this. Ray Allen is the greatest three-point shooter of all-time-- I never thought of Pierce as anything other than a mid-level all-star throughout his career.



Pierce was a dynamic, clutch player in his prime, capable of giving you 27-7-5. And here's fun one: Allen is #1 on the all-time 3-points made; Pierce is 4th. Pierce really has a great all-around game, but he was stranded on terrible Boston teams for most of his career. He's probably one of the top 10 best small forwards of all time.

That said, Allen isn't that far behind. He's in the same general tier as Pierce -- two great players.


Could Pierce really consistently give you 27/5/5 for multiple years on a playoff team? I feel like he only put up those numbers on a bad team in a bad conference.

People on this board laughed when I made a poll asking who was better between Pierce and Worthy, saying Worthy was on a different level.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject:

Both of their peak's were similar...throwing up huge but not unseen numbers on mediocre teams.

Pierce was more clutch and versatile, Allen was the better shooter.

Probably have to give it to Pierce overall for both. On a scale of 1-10, MJ being 10, Pierce would probably be an 8.8 whereas Allen would be an 8.5 maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:54 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Could Pierce really consistently give you 27/5/5 for multiple years on a playoff team? I feel like he only put up those numbers on a bad team in a bad conference.


In years that Boston made the playoffs Pierce put up 26-7-3, 26-7-4. 23-6-5. Obviously, his numbers took a hit when he joined up with Allen and Garnett (as did theirs), but he was still Finals MVP.

I typically see him grouped on best-ever lists with James Worthy, Dominique Wilkens, and John Havlicek.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject:

I dislike them both but I am going to be with Pierce.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:05 am    Post subject:

Ray Allen was a great shooter, but in terms of total career impact Pierce led him by a long margin. PP played the defensive end of the court far better. If I were to have one guy or the other on my squad, it'd be Pierce.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

CandyCanes wrote:
Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


His/ Her peak So which one is the Her?


That was actually completely unintentional. I automatically correct "their" to his/her and didn't catch it.


I think we have all done similar things.... we re just fun-ning you
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


His/ Her peak So which one is the Her?


That was actually completely unintentional. I automatically correct "their" to his/her and didn't catch it.


I think we have all done similar things.... we re just fun-ning you


But the real question is: Which one is the him?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:06 am    Post subject:

I would say Pierce is a better player while Allen has a better career.

Allen's career would be perfect if he retires with over 3000 threes made in his career. It's just about 20+ away... Man!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Paul Pierce or Ray Allen?

CandyCanes wrote:
Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Voices wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Who had the better career, and who was the better player at his/her peak?


His/ Her peak So which one is the Her?


That was actually completely unintentional. I automatically correct "their" to his/her and didn't catch it.


I think we have all done similar things.... we re just fun-ning you


But the real question is: Which one is the him?


I won't touch that one
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:44 am    Post subject:

Pierce is the better player but I don't understand why so many voted he had the better career as well

Allen has more rings, played at a high level on different teams, changed his entire playstyle successfully, and starred in a movie.

Pierce player, Allen career
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