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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:01 am Post subject:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:54 am Post subject:
Wilkes52 wrote:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:08 am Post subject:
CandyCanes wrote:
Wilkes52 wrote:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
Especially when we are shifting MJ to SF.
yea...what's up wid dat? mj over kobe?? doesn't he know kobe is mj upgraded? russell over kobe?? russell over shaq maybe.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:15 am Post subject:
SuperboyReformed wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Wilkes52 wrote:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
Especially when we are shifting MJ to SF.
yea...what's up wid dat? mj over kobe?? doesn't he know kobe is mj upgraded? russell over kobe?? russell over shaq maybe.
If he put MJ over Kobe at SG, I wouldn't really care. But if you move MJ to SF, and leave SG open, and put any player other than Kobe...I'm a little skeptical. I guess "team fit/chemistry," but who really thinks about that when making an all-time team
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
Especially when we are shifting MJ to SF.
If you read the article, Shaq put Jordan at the 2 (shooting guard). So Erving is the small forward on his team.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:12 pm Post subject:
activeverb wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Wilkes52 wrote:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
Especially when we are shifting MJ to SF.
If you read the article, Shaq put Jordan at the 2 (shooting guard). So Erving is the small forward on his team.
Did not read it. My bad. The initial configuration in the OP threw me off
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:34 pm Post subject:
CandyCanes wrote:
Wilkes52 wrote:
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
What ? He took MJ over Kobe and I would too.
He took Dr J over other small forwards, which I'd probably have preferred LeBron myself but Kobe's guard not a forward.
Karl Malone over Duncan ? Harder to explain than MJ Over Kobe. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
Shaq's taken The Man from the sixties (Russell), seventies (Erving), eighties (Magic), nineties (MJ) and one of his former team mates. Not bad decisions, though passing on Duncan for the Mailman is the toughest to appreciate.
Dr. J over Kobe is the hardest.
What ? He took MJ over Kobe and I would too.
He took Dr J over other small forwards, which I'd probably have preferred LeBron myself but Kobe's guard not a forward.
Karl Malone over Duncan ? Harder to explain than MJ Over Kobe.
I'd bet that's one of his personal issues with a post player who he felt couldn't stop him or didn't want none (Tim not wanting to play 5). I think he probably puts Malone up there because he was one of the few guys in the league who was up to his standards of physicality and ruggedness. To me, it seems like the reasoning he uses against Doowight, even though I'm sure he has infinitely more respect for Timmy as a championship caliber player. Timmy can bang a little in the post, but he's never been the classic dominantly physical, dunk-on-yo-sh type of banger. Shaq gives Dwight the double disrespect as a paint softy AND playoff loser. That's one of Shaq and Kobe's few agreements in life. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
He's taken D and toughness into account.
Not my list, but I respect his choices. They're not totally out there, and all are all time greats at their position.
I like his team a lot as an honor roll selection "by position".
I'm less fond of it in the context of it representing some sort of all-time strongest possible squad from history, though each guy is his prime was certainly exceptionally formidable in his own way.
Viewed from the perspective of the game's direction over the past fifteen years or so, Shaq's team doesn't reflect a lot of strength in three point shooting.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:31 am Post subject:
Obviously Shaq is entitled to his opinion, his 5 is by position, not the greatest players of all time. Dr. J and Malone are not top 5 players of all time. Certainly Russell has the credentials as well as MJ and MJ.
Dr.J is not better than Bird and Malone is not better than Tim or McHale.
The two players that should be on everyone list is MJ and MJ. _________________ .....
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He's taken D and toughness into account.
Not my list, but I respect his choices. They're not totally out there, and all are all time greats at their position.
So why are Magic and Dr. J on the list with D as a factor. Likewise there are two other 4's not named Karl that can absolutely bend an offense with their ability to defend...all-world, arguably best ever in fact. It's not like Karl's legacy isn't incessantly ridiculed for being a massive choke artist either. Not my list either, but I don't think he even gave that much of a thought to his picks. He picked iconic players that he likes for whatever reason. We all do that. And that's fine.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:12 am Post subject:
jonnybravo wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
He's taken D and toughness into account.
Not my list, but I respect his choices. They're not totally out there, and all are all time greats at their position.
So why are Magic and Dr. J on the list with D as a factor. Likewise there are two other 4's not named Karl that can absolutely bend an offense with their ability to defend...all-world, arguably best ever in fact. It's not like Karl's legacy isn't incessantly ridiculed for being a massive choke artist either. Not my list either, but I don't think he even gave that much of a thought to his picks. He picked iconic players that he likes for whatever reason. We all do that. And that's fine.
Magic was a very good team defender, his length as a pg was a big advantage in getting into the passing lanes. Most defense is more about team defense than one on one defense. To say Magic was not a good defensive player is just not the case. Anticipation is a very important factor in b ball, especially playing defense, Magic's anticipation /ball IQ combined with his length made him an adequate defender. _________________ .....
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