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MJST
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| Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
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Christopher C
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| Randle, Clarkson, and Russell should be getting at least 30 minutes every single game. |
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Tyrion Lannister
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| MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
This tunnel vision he has is the best and the worst things about his game |
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| Love this team. |
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Andre2K
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| The Silhouette wrote: | | Kobe should never play an entire quarter. It makes no sense. |
Ditto
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Christopher C
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There's no reason to play the veteran Lou Williams more minutes than the young guys who need to develop and get experience. Bass should not get more minutes than Randle either.
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Tyrion Lannister
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, please remember that this is basically Randle's rookie year. |
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MJST
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
This tunnel vision he has is the best and the worst things about his game |
it truly is actually. He was doing so well early on and then suddenly it was like as witch flicked. |
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| MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
i honestly think we should cut him after tonight.
give holmes, frazier and upshaw some look on tuesday |
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| Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | I think Byron will get fired at the end of this year. I think.... I hope... |
It will take a big revolt from the fanbase. He is so protected by all of his former teammates and coworkers in the local media. |
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Tyrion Lannister
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| MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
This tunnel vision he has is the best and the worst things about his game |
it truly is actually. He was doing so well early on and then suddenly it was like as witch flicked. |
It was awful. I saw it happening. I said to myself. I know where this going. |
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Tyrion Lannister
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | I think Byron will get fired at the end of this year. I think.... I hope... |
It will take a big revolt from the fanbase. He is so protected by all of his former teammates and coworkers in the local media. |
Lets start it. Other Laker fans will blame Byron quicker than Randle, or Russell. So it might not be that far. |
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| Sniper008 wrote: | Scott didn't make an attempt to coach, I saw Utah's coach getting up and instructing his guys. Scott sat in his chair and had his arms folded playing guys 12 mins a stretch whats the reasoning behind that?  |
Byron must think he's Phil since he's not getting up in their ears, coaching his players and letting them run the offense like they're veterans who know the offense well.
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MJST
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| Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | Lets not forget that J brown gave up like 7 turnovers in 30 seconds at the beginning of the 4th. |
Essentially killed the momentum we gained back at the end of the 3rd.
He went Riley from Boondocks. |
This tunnel vision he has is the best and the worst things about his game |
it truly is actually. He was doing so well early on and then suddenly it was like as witch flicked. |
It was awful. I saw it happening. I said to myself. I know where this going. |
Yep. This is the kind of thing that can really hurt a pre-season bid.
Then he got a 2nd chance to start the 4th and he did WORSE... not just worse.. but when he got the ball stolen and the guy was on the ground he stood and watched the ball instead of going to get it and a member of the Jazz walked up behind him and took it cause the play was still going on.
THAT is the kind of thing that can get you put in the dog house with Scott in a hurry. |
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | Tyrion Lannister wrote: | | I think Byron will get fired at the end of this year. I think.... I hope... |
It will take a big revolt from the fanbase. He is so protected by all of his former teammates and coworkers in the local media. |
That's not that difficult. James Dolan had the biggest fetish in the world for Isiah Thomas as coach and Knicks fans would chant literally EVERY GAME "FIRE ISIAH!" *clap clap, clap clap clap* (rinse and repeat).
We can do the same thing with Scott.
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Way too much lagging on my feed for me to post live - as expected a VERY sloppy game. The Lakers missed an awful lot of very easy short range shots, and even still showed at moments they could take over the game. Lots of potential. Unrealized, for now.
I was all prepared to say don't pin this loss on Scott, these guys are young and it's a first preseason game. We KNEW it was going to be sloppy..... But the fourth quarter changed my mind. Not that we lost it, but it's how we lost it, and the way that Scott decided to dick around with the lineup in absolutely asinine ways.
The worst stat of the night is that Upshaw saw zero playing time.
Russell and Clarkson each had moments, they're both legit and they'll get much, much better. Randle - terrible night for him. He's got a lot to review.
Lakers had a hard time corralling Gobert and Favors, so I can see why Scott might have wanted to see Black play a tiny bit of 4. But why stick Kelly at the 3 if you're going to do that?
And again... why SO much Sacre and no Upshaw??
Ugh. The win-loss doesn't mean squat, but the lineups do matter.
Give Upshaw a shot, and for crying out loud I thought Scott was done with Kelly at the 3.  |
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| The Silhouette wrote: | | There's no reason to play the veteran Lou Williams more minutes than the young guys who need to develop and get experience. Bass should not get more minutes than Randle either. |
Agreed.
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| John Ireland just gave Kobe two more years back (said he was 35). Lol |
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28.9% from the field!!!!!
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This team has a lot of work to do.
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| dood23 wrote: | | 28.9% from the field!!!!! |
We have good shooters on the team.
However, the lack of an actual offense is the problem. Lots of players standing around, too much isolation, taking contested shots, etc.
The very first offensive play that happened, THE VERY FIRST, was a pick and roll set by Randle, and Russell passing to Randle for the easy dunk.
...and then we never see it again. What the (bleep)? This is something we should do literally ALL THE TIME! Warriors do high screen pick and rolls literally ALL THE TIME! That is the kind of offense the Lakers should also run, every time. Players moving around, forcing the defense to move and respond, getting more open looks.
Yet we saw almost none of that. Just that very...first...play.
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30th) Sixers
29th) Nuggets
28th) Lakers
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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What I took from "offense" that we did run in the first half (the only half that mattered in this game).
1st unit: Lots of easy shots, swing passes, open opportunities. Need to hit them.
2nd unit: Instant offense.
I liked the defense from both units tbh. |
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This was the team's first time ever playing an actual game together against competition.
It's going to take a while for them to get their timing down and to gel into a cohesive unit.
However there is no excuse for that 4th quarter debacle. It was a dismal display of basketball by the players & coaches. |
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