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HAWAIIGUY27 Star Player
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2338 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: Offensive philosophy? |
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Can someone seriously tell me what BS's offensive philosophy is for this team? I understand that it's only the preseason, but it seems to me that, even dating back to last season, most possessions typically result in a lot of picks/handoffs for the first 10-15 seconds in the half court, then an eventual ISO on the perimeter or post with about 6 seconds to go on the shot clock.
There's been no clear identity as to whether this is a pick n' roll team, a post up team or an inside out team to name some examples... so what is his plan? Honestly it's been pretty frustrating to watch most of the time. _________________ In Rob I trust.
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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None. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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fan4life Star Player
Joined: 02 Jul 2001 Posts: 3675
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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The elbow pin downs seem to be a staple, but if that doesn't free up a shooter, then they move to the p-n-r.
To say that our offense lacks imagination is an understatement. And for those saying it's only preseason, the last preseason and regular season looked awfully similar.
If you're looking for an offense with a spread floor and constant ball movement, you won't find it here....see Spurs, Warriors, etc., |
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xxsicrokerxx Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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BS preaches Defense not offense |
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Tyrion Lannister Star Player
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 4567 Location: Westeros
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Throw the ball at the hoop and hope it goes in |
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Triangle_Offense Star Player
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 2063 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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CalisFinest Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Versatility. Sucking at all spots on the floor. |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Lol you said coach.. |
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*Purple&Gold* Star Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 5863 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Never thought I would miss the Triangle so much in my life! I thought it was just me who was stunned by this standing around, watch the guy with the ball, and if/when he gets in trouble, make a half ass effort to bail him out. _________________ There are the Lakers...and then just a bunch of other teams! |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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xxsicrokerxx wrote: | BS preaches Defense not offense |
And we aren't very good at that either. Sigh. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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a lot ballscreens, and then say "(bleep) it" and go one-on-one. |
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City_Dawg Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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If this keeps up I may have to adjust my over/under for wins this season. _________________ *sighs*
!... |
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*Purple&Gold* Star Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 5863 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would just like to see movement on the offensive end. If we lose, fine, but I sure would like to at least see some sort of an offense run. Players without the ball...MOVE. _________________ There are the Lakers...and then just a bunch of other teams! |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Offensive philosophy? |
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If one can actually accurately decipher it after one pre-season game where the two units we'll use only played 2 quarters then they should work in the NBA. |
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LakerBeastmode Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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BS blames it on our guys not getting to their spots quickly enough. Does that mean we need more sprints now to get ready for next game? |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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*Purple&Gold* wrote: | I would just like to see movement on the offensive end. If we lose, fine, but I sure would like to at least see some sort of an offense run. Players without the ball...MOVE. |
The opening play of the game was actually great. Horns, I believe, which led to a missed corner 3. Never did it again. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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i saw just the same trash as last yr.
there is no strategy |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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- Are my methods unsound?
- I don't see any method at all, sir.
Seriously though, to answer the question, his philosophy is to run a set and then let the players 'play basketball'. Which often means means to figure it out on their own. Here's what he said when asked about post play:
Byron Scott wrote: | “In the offense that I run, post players are important. They’re very important because I think a lot of our guys are probably going to play one-on-one. If they get played one-on-one, they’ve got to be able to make a move down there, so it’s something that we emphasize, but they’ve also got to be a hub. They also have to be able to pass the ball, set screens. They have to know how to play the game of basketball. If we got a guy down there that can score, we’re going to throw him the ball.” |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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i didn't see any real schemes on offense. just a bunch of over-eager, hyperactive basketball players. reminded me of a intramural league team where nobody ever practices together and just come to play once in a while.
i still insist the roster is good. give it time i suppose. |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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The spacing is horrible. In order to fix the spacing Kobe, clarkson, and Russell need to be at the 3 pt line with randle setting picks.
The off ball movement is nonexistent
imo these are the two biggest issues with our offense.
Russell is a great passer but without adequate spacing he's going to commit a lot of turnovers. |
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WeDidItReddit Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there's a word in the English language that can describe it |
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Purp 32 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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From what I can see it's pick and roll, if that fails then isolation. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | i didn't see any real schemes on offense. just a bunch of over-eager, hyperactive basketball players. reminded me of a intramural league team where nobody ever practices together and just come to play once in a while.
i still insist the roster is good. give it time i suppose. |
I find it hard to say your roster is good when your second best defensive player is... well, you can't even say who your second best defensive player is. Hibbert looked pretty pissed already that he's the only one trying in that regard. |
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dood23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Waiting for that moment when the new and improved analytics team plops their data in front of Byron and says "THIS IS WHAT YOUR OLD SCHOOL BASKETBALL IS" _________________ "There's only 2 dudes better than me, and I'm BOTH OF THEM." |
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