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Aussiesuede
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | My cousin in Colorado would drive me to Seattle where I would pick up the FedEx package from my mother containing my Birth Certificate and her debit card. Go to the DMV for a new Driver's license/ID card, buy a suit, check into a hotel for a shower and shave, and then off to my new job. |
What ID are you using to pickup that Fedex overnight package at their customer counter?
Have you been issued a Washington State ID/Drivers License prior? You'll still need to satisfy the documentation combination from the list above. |
Even simpler.
Girlfriend books a room at whatever 5 star Hotel that is near the employer and has a conceirge.
Overnight my current passport and her debit card to the hotel concierge with specific instructions as to who I am and what is inside the FedEx envelope. I pick up the envelope, check in, go upstairs to my room with the tailor waiting on stand-by. Get fitted for the suit, shirt and shoes, take a nap while the tailor finishes, wake, dress and hitch a ride in the hotel limo to my new employer. |
You were moving across country with ALL of your belongings. Your passport was lost when the truck was stolen - hence the need to IDENTIFY yourself.
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Aussiesuede
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Interestingly, something similar actually happened to a poor fellow IRL:
| Quote: | A man who served in the Coast Guard for 10 years was robbed of all of his belongings last week after parking a packed U-Haul on a Seattle street in preparation for his early morning move.
Paul Irwin, 34, is making a transition from active duty in Washington to the Reserves in St. Louis, Mo., so that he can pursue an undergraduate degree and live closer to his mother, two brothers and “a lot of nieces and nephews,” he said.
Irwin had about a week to move out of his Seattle apartment, act as the best man in a wedding and then get to St. Louis in time to start classes on Aug. 20.
His solution was to stay with his newly-married friend and use the Monday after the wedding to pack all of his belongings into a U-Haul trailer so that he could start his cross country trip early Tuesday morning.
However, when he woke up on Tuesday, the U-haul and his car were gone, Irwin said.
“I was sleeping 30 feet away from where the truck was parked, and I never heard a peep,” he said.
Seattle Police found Irwin’s car two miles away the same day, but the U-Haul was no longer connected to it and the windows in the car had been broken so that the thieves could gain access to the property that Irwin had packed in his backseat and trunk. |
Uhaul Stolen
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lakerjoshua
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Here's the real solution.
Casino won't let you in without ID to drink and gamble. Security sends me back to my Uhaul to get wallet. I decide it's probably best to keep driving due to my limited time and budget. |
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Aussiesuede
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | Here's the real solution.
Casino won't let you in without ID to drink and gamble. Security sends me back to my Uhaul to get wallet. |
 Have you ever been to a casino that Id'd you before you sat down at the BlackJack Table? If you've got cash (as you did - remember, you left your wallet in the truck because you didn't want to be tempted top spend more than you could afford to lose ) then they just ask you to place your bet.
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lakerjoshua
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | Here's the real solution.
Casino won't let you in without ID to drink and gamble. Security sends me back to my Uhaul to get wallet. |
Have you ever been to a casino that Id'd you before you sat down at the BlackJack Table? If you've got cash (as you did - remember, you left your wallet in the truck because you didn't want to be tempted top spend more than you could afford to lose ) then they just ask you to place your bet. |
This is an Indian Casino I'm assuming because it's in Colorado, my experience with Indian Casino's is they do indeed check ID's not to mention my first stop would not be at the card table, would be at the bar to get a drink and find a hooker making it much more likely I'd get carded and have to return to the uhaul fairly quickly. Also, I'm a very young looking 35 and get carded most places I go so there's that which would make it even more unlikely I'd leave my ID behind. |
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lakerjoshua
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| But I digress, I'd just have to go to one of the 2 DMVs in Seattle you mentioned that have Biometric scanners and try to hustle the clerk to hook me up without an appointment, I mean if I get there at 9am I should be out by what, 2pm? leaving me a good 2 hours to get to the office. |
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Aussiesuede
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1st part of the solution:
1)Have family send you cash via Western Union. Western Union will allow you to pickup the cash by answering a preset series of questions provided by the sender.
2) Goto a local bank branch Saturday morning and retrieve a temp debit card for your account. Won't have your name on it, but it's still useful.
3) Goto the public library and log onto the "VitalChek" website and order an expedited copy of your Birth Certificate delivered to a Social Service Agency in San Francisco that you looked up online. They're use to helping folks with ID issues and will allow you to pickup from them even without an ID, especially if you arrive prior to Fedex and alert them of your situation and that a Fedex dropoff will soon be arriving in your name.
So there are the first logical steps to get you on the road to being able to Identify yourself and sign on to that job. Who can finish the process and collect the necessary paperwork to complete their I-9's, and cleanup - prior to the deadline?
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Aussiesuede
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | But I digress, I'd just have to go to one of the 2 DMVs in Seattle you mentioned that have Biometric scanners and try to hustle the clerk to hook me up without an appointment, I mean if I get there at 9am I should be out by what, 2pm? leaving me a good 2 hours to get to the office. |
I'll even grant you the impossible - getting a Licensing worker to overlook the law and do you a solid. All that get's you is a paper temp til your original arrives in the mail. You still need to figure out how to get that I-9 form successfully completed.
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| When all else fails, whip it out....they'll definitely remember you now. |
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Aussiesuede
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | When all else fails, whip it out....they'll definitely remember you now. |
The DMV? or the Employer? 
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lakerjoshua
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | | But I digress, I'd just have to go to one of the 2 DMVs in Seattle you mentioned that have Biometric scanners and try to hustle the clerk to hook me up without an appointment, I mean if I get there at 9am I should be out by what, 2pm? leaving me a good 2 hours to get to the office. |
I'll even grant you the impossible - getting a Licensing worker to overlook the law and do you a solid. All that get's you is a paper temp til your original arrives in the mail. You still need to figure out how to get that I-9 form successfully completed. |
I keep all of my, my wife's and my son's personal info (ID's, ss cards, birth certificates, etc.) along with all of my financial stuff backed up on my Google Drive and have my bank account connected to my Google Wallet so luckily I'll never have to Hitchhike, Panhandle, shower in a McDonalds restaurant or hustle some lazy DMV worker to do me a solid. (as a California resident they cannot issue me a WA ID anyways).
So in reality, I'd pay for a bus or train ticket online (no ID needed) with my google wallet to get to Seattle. Then once I got to the interview I'd print out a copy of my ID's and SS cards and whatever else they needed. To get around town I'd take Uber. To sleep/eat I'd go to the bank (in store branches of Wells Fargo are open Sunday til 4pm) and get a temp debit card issued and stay in a seedy cheap motel that didn't require ID.
Considering my Phone never leave my pocket, this should work.
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Aussiesuede
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| lakerjoshua wrote: |
I keep all of my, my wife's and my son's personal info (ID's, ss cards, birth certificates, etc.) along with all of my financial stuff backed up on my Google Drive and have my account connected to my Google Wallet so luckily I'll never have to Hitchhike, Panhandle, shower in a McDonalds restaurant or hustle some lazy DMV worker to do me a solid. (as a California resident they cannot issue me a WA ID anyways).
So in reality, I'd pay for a bus or train ticket online (no ID needed) with my google wallet to get to Seattle. Then once I got to the interview I'd print out a copy of my ID's and SS cards and whatever else they needed. To get around town I'd take Uber. To sleep/eat I'd go to the bank and get a temp debit card issued and stay in a seedy cheap motel that didn't require ID.
kk it's been fun but I've gotta get back to my real job |
Thanx! FYI, the Employer Verification portion of the I-9 form indicates they attest under penalty of perjury that they've personally examined the originals of the documentation being verified in section 1. While the employee must complete the form before the end of the 1st day of employment, the Employer has 3 days to complete their verification.
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lakerjoshua
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: |
I keep all of my, my wife's and my son's personal info (ID's, ss cards, birth certificates, etc.) along with all of my financial stuff backed up on my Google Drive and have my account connected to my Google Wallet so luckily I'll never have to Hitchhike, Panhandle, shower in a McDonalds restaurant or hustle some lazy DMV worker to do me a solid. (as a California resident they cannot issue me a WA ID anyways).
So in reality, I'd pay for a bus or train ticket online (no ID needed) with my google wallet to get to Seattle. Then once I got to the interview I'd print out a copy of my ID's and SS cards and whatever else they needed. To get around town I'd take Uber. To sleep/eat I'd go to the bank and get a temp debit card issued and stay in a seedy cheap motel that didn't require ID.
kk it's been fun but I've gotta get back to my real job |
Thanx! FYI, the Employer Verification portion of the I-9 form indicates they attest under penalty of perjury that they've personally examined the originals of the documentation being verified in section 1. While the employee must complete the form before the end of the 1st day of employment, the Employer has 3 days to complete their verification. |
Backup ID and SS card FedEx'd by Wednesday, done deal. Copies are good enough to get me to Tuesday morning. Even the most hard ass by the book employers will allow that, especially considering the circumstances and that it is a high level executive position. My luck the employer would even put me up in a nice hotel until I got sorted after explaining my misfortune.
Winner, winner chicken dinner!
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| If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
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lakerjoshua
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| ringfinger wrote: | | If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
Lol this is what I've been thinking the whole time. But jeez your'e no fun not to play along......... 
I think it's more of a fun thought experiment, based on what I'd have done given little or no resources. Takes imagination and originality RF, you should try it some time.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
Thats what a credit card is for....... |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
Thats what a credit card is for....... |
Wait huh? What's what a credit card is for? |
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Aussiesuede
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: |
I keep all of my, my wife's and my son's personal info (ID's, ss cards, birth certificates, etc.) along with all of my financial stuff backed up on my Google Drive and have my account connected to my Google Wallet so luckily I'll never have to Hitchhike, Panhandle, shower in a McDonalds restaurant or hustle some lazy DMV worker to do me a solid. (as a California resident they cannot issue me a WA ID anyways).
So in reality, I'd pay for a bus or train ticket online (no ID needed) with my google wallet to get to Seattle. Then once I got to the interview I'd print out a copy of my ID's and SS cards and whatever else they needed. To get around town I'd take Uber. To sleep/eat I'd go to the bank and get a temp debit card issued and stay in a seedy cheap motel that didn't require ID.
kk it's been fun but I've gotta get back to my real job |
Thanx! FYI, the Employer Verification portion of the I-9 form indicates they attest under penalty of perjury that they've personally examined the originals of the documentation being verified in section 1. While the employee must complete the form before the end of the 1st day of employment, the Employer has 3 days to complete their verification. |
Backup ID and SS card FedEx'd by Wednesday, done deal. Copies are good enough to get me to Tuesday morning. Even the most hard ass by the book employers will allow that, especially considering the circumstances and that it is a high level executive position. My luck the employer would even put me up in a nice hotel until I got sorted after explaining my misfortune.
Winner, winner chicken dinner! |
You're getting closer, but not quite there. I can't share the last flaw until without giving away they conclusive answer and I'm going to give a few more the chance to chime in before revealing how to git er done.
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
Lol this is what I've been thinking the whole time. But jeez your'e no fun not to play along.........
I think it's more of a fun thought experiment, based on what I'd have done given little or no resources. Takes imagination and originality RF, you should try it some time. |
Yeah, I got it -- was just joking around.
Don't be afraid to say what you think though man. If that's what you were thinking the WHOLE time, just be you brother man. |
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lakerjoshua
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| ringfinger wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | If you're offered a $450K job but don't have $10K to pay the moving expenses and couldn't negotiate a relo package, and on top of all of that, stopped at a casino with a UHaul containing all of your possessions and then left your wallet in that friggin UHaul, then, you don't deserve the job. =) |
Lol this is what I've been thinking the whole time. But jeez your'e no fun not to play along.........
I think it's more of a fun thought experiment, based on what I'd have done given little or no resources. Takes imagination and originality RF, you should try it some time. |
Yeah, I got it -- was just joking around.
Don't be afraid to say what you think though man. If that's what you were thinking the WHOLE time, just be you brother man. |
I tried to take that route but Aussie wouldn't let me |
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lakerjoshua
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | | Aussiesuede wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: |
I keep all of my, my wife's and my son's personal info (ID's, ss cards, birth certificates, etc.) along with all of my financial stuff backed up on my Google Drive and have my account connected to my Google Wallet so luckily I'll never have to Hitchhike, Panhandle, shower in a McDonalds restaurant or hustle some lazy DMV worker to do me a solid. (as a California resident they cannot issue me a WA ID anyways).
So in reality, I'd pay for a bus or train ticket online (no ID needed) with my google wallet to get to Seattle. Then once I got to the interview I'd print out a copy of my ID's and SS cards and whatever else they needed. To get around town I'd take Uber. To sleep/eat I'd go to the bank and get a temp debit card issued and stay in a seedy cheap motel that didn't require ID.
kk it's been fun but I've gotta get back to my real job |
Thanx! FYI, the Employer Verification portion of the I-9 form indicates they attest under penalty of perjury that they've personally examined the originals of the documentation being verified in section 1. While the employee must complete the form before the end of the 1st day of employment, the Employer has 3 days to complete their verification. |
Backup ID and SS card FedEx'd by Wednesday, done deal. Copies are good enough to get me to Tuesday morning. Even the most hard ass by the book employers will allow that, especially considering the circumstances and that it is a high level executive position. My luck the employer would even put me up in a nice hotel until I got sorted after explaining my misfortune.
Winner, winner chicken dinner! |
You're getting closer, but not quite there. I can't share the last flaw until without giving away they conclusive answer and I'm going to give a few more the chance to chime in before revealing how to git er done. |
This can't end well  |
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| The state of Washington gives the employer 3 days after employment begins to obtain identity documents, which would make the deadline for that information Friday in your example. Plenty of time to have rushmypassport.com issue a replacement passport. |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | The state of Washington gives the employer 3 days after employment begins to obtain identity documents, which would make the deadline for that information Friday in your example. Plenty of time to have rushmypassport.com issue a replacement passport. |
So I wouldn't be screwed! See Aussie! I'm there and working Tuesday morning!
And If my boss catches me on LG again I may actually need that job. Lol. |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | The state of Washington gives the employer 3 days after employment begins to obtain identity documents, which would make the deadline for that information Friday in your example. Plenty of time to have rushmypassport.com issue a replacement passport. |
The employer has 3 days to affix their signature, but they don't have 3 days to examine the documents. What this does is allow for employees in an HR Dept to collect and photocopy the documents and then have their Dept manager affix their signature to it later. It doesn't relieve the employer of the examination requirement on day one of employment.
And FYI, this isn't a State of Washington requirement. It's a US government requirement. The exact same policy holds for every state.
But you are on the right path with a rushed Passport application. But using RushMyPassport will only work if you have possession of a photocopy of your drivers license and you're willing to lie on the form that you just photocopied it (not too tall a barrier to clear for most who are in a desperate situation). But again, you're on the right general path.
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | The state of Washington gives the employer 3 days after employment begins to obtain identity documents, which would make the deadline for that information Friday in your example. Plenty of time to have rushmypassport.com issue a replacement passport. |
The employer has 3 days to affix their signature, but they don't have 3 days to examine the documents. What this does is allow for employees in an HR Dept to collect and photocopy the documents and then have their Dept manager affix their signature to it later. It doesn't relieve the employer of the examination requirement on day one of employment.
And FYI, this isn't a State of Washington requirement. It's a US government requirement. The exact same policy holds for every state.
But you are on the right path with a rushed Passport application. But using RushMyPassport will only work if you have possession of a photocopy of your drivers license and you're willing to lie on the form that you just photocopied it (not too tall a barrier to clear for most who are in a desperate situation). But again, you're on the right general path. |
Hence my Google Drive. Where I store all of those documents  |
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