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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Was Mitch wrong to fire DanToni?

looking back, a guy out of the league was dropping 10 dimes a night running his offense.. Imagine Clarkson or Russell in that role. Or what about Randle being used in position to get buckets like a young Amare... hell Nance could be flying around like a young Marion...etc etc

Honestly Byron Scott offense is just a street one on one pick up game... Play physical which doesn't fly with the way the game is called these days... Why doesn't Mitch take heat for this horrible move? 2012 Laker team fell apart but DanToni had them fighting until Kobe got hurt... 2013 team just didn't have the talent....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:47 pm    Post subject:



isn't their a fire byron thread?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:49 pm    Post subject:

He's not firing MDA, MDA quit himself because lakers do not want to exercise his 4th year contract.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:02 pm    Post subject:

antoni, there is no D in antoni, was a great offensive coach. Its just that byron is soo bad that it makes antoni look good.

like you pointed out, imagine Linsanity in antonis system. Lin, clarkson, wesley, kelley, davis could have done some damage in antoni system.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject:

I thought D'Antoni "resigned".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:09 pm    Post subject:

It goes back to the Kobe extension. MDA just wasn't the right coach to maximize that investment, and they really didn't want it to be a bad investment.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:09 pm    Post subject:

D'Antoni exited at the right time. We had a different team then. Might as well ask if parting ways with Riley was a good choice because we have good play-makers now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:09 pm    Post subject:

They were wrong to hire him. Good riddance.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:10 pm    Post subject:

D'Antoni resigned because we didn't exercise the fourth year of his option and didn't want to be a lame duck coach. And as much as I think he would be the perfect coach to maximize the offensive abilities of Clarkson, Russ and Randle, who knows if his superior offensive strategies would have won us a few too many extra games and we don't get Russell?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:12 pm    Post subject:

Mitch was 100% right in whatever led D'Antoni to leave. Unfortunately, the FO was 100% wrong to bring in Byron.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject:

rwongega wrote:
Mitch was 100% right in whatever led D'Antoni to leave. Unfortunately, the FO was 100% wrong to bring in Byron.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject:

I feel that their attitude to hiring coaches is: "He won coach of the year. What's the worst that could happen?"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject:

KBH wrote:
D'Antoni resigned because we didn't exercise the fourth year of his option and didn't want to be a lame duck coach. And as much as I think he would be the perfect coach to maximize the offensive abilities of Clarkson, Russ and Randle, who knows if his superior offensive strategies would have won us a few too many extra games and we don't get Russell?


A lame duck trying to tell the highest paid player in the NBA to run his offense... good luck


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:40 pm    Post subject:

No MDA most certainly deserved to be fired and I actually think his resignation came a season late. Mitch was wrong in hiring Byron Scott. We shouldve went with a more modern progressive coach.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm    Post subject:

PhoenixForce wrote:
No MDA most certainly deserved to be fired and I actually think his resignation came a season late. Mitch was wrong in hiring Byron Scott. We shouldve went with a more modern progressive coach.


You just basically described the guy they fired.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:54 pm    Post subject:

Byron is a much better tank commander. Even worse coach and has the fans' support.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject:

MDA will never win a chip, on a system that relies on firing away. Didn't do it with the Suns, the next team, next, next...

Maybe if he finds the perfect team for his system he could make it to the second round...

IMO, he's a waste of time ... & Jobless for a reason...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:08 pm    Post subject:

Mike D'Antoni was hired too early imo.

"Small ball" hadn't really taken over the NBA as much as it has now.

I think with no Pau, no Dwight, and no Phil Jackson as "the guy the FO chose D'Antoni over" people would be beyond excited at the prospect of D'Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson, and Julius Randle being coached by him.

I think he'd be better suited for a young team who was willing to buy into his philosophy rather than a team full of veterans who were stuck in their ways (Kobe, Pau) or thinking they were a post player when they really weren't (Dwight)

He made players like Jodie Meeks, Kent Bazemore, Ryan Kelly, Steve Blake, Jordan Farmar, Nick Young and even Jordan Hill look like above average players.

It's just unfortunate the Lakers couldn't get a good defense minded assistant to go along with D'Antoni
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject:

In my opinion, the problem with MDA was that the players did not fit his system; and then they got rid of him right when they got players to fit his system.

As someone said though, with MDA last year, the team may not have lost enough to get Russell.

However, this team is a great fit for MDA. Its interesting how so many people are demanding a modern, up tempo offensive style after they hated MDA.

I think if the Lakers had gotten MDA a year after they did, it would have worked out better. The question remains whether that D12 team was fatally flawed or was it MDA's fault. Also, what if Nash had remained healthy.

But comparing BS to MDA, the production from players is glaring. Wesley, Young, RKelly, Xavier, PGs, everyone fell off heavily after BS came in.

Anyway, for now, I am hoping against hope that BS can do a semi-decent job coaching and not hurt any of our young players.

Hopefully, soon, we can finally get a great, young coach of the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject:

ch3cky0selff00 wrote:
Mike D'Antoni was hired too early imo.

"Small ball" hadn't really taken over the NBA as much as it has now.

I think with no Pau, no Dwight, and no Phil Jackson as "the guy the FO chose D'Antoni over" people would be beyond excited at the prospect of D'Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson, and Julius Randle being coached by him.

I think he'd be better suited for a young team who was willing to buy into his philosophy rather than a team full of veterans who were stuck in their ways (Kobe, Pau) or thinking they were a post player when they really weren't (Dwight)

He made players like Jodie Meeks, Kent Bazemore, Ryan Kelly, Steve Blake, Jordan Farmar, Nick Young and even Jordan Hill look like above average players.

It's just unfortunate the Lakers couldn't get a good defense minded assistant to go along with D'Antoni
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject:

He had Steve Clifford as the defensive coach, who had a great reputation. Then Rambis...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:21 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
He had Steve Clifford as the defensive coach, who had a great reputation. Then Rambis...


I'll give you Steve Clifford, maybe.. but not-so-much with Kurt Rambis lol.

I won't beat this dead horse.. but I just happen to think, in my own formed opinion, that a team like this would probably have fared a little better under Mike D'Antoni than the team he inherited and then was "given" by the FO.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject:

I thought Dantoni quit?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject:

ch3cky0selff00 wrote:
Mike D'Antoni was hired too early imo.

"Small ball" hadn't really taken over the NBA as much as it has now.

I think with no Pau, no Dwight, and no Phil Jackson as "the guy the FO chose D'Antoni over" people would be beyond excited at the prospect of D'Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson, and Julius Randle being coached by him.

I think he'd be better suited for a young team who was willing to buy into his philosophy rather than a team full of veterans who were stuck in their ways (Kobe, Pau) or thinking they were a post player when they really weren't (Dwight)

He made players like Jodie Meeks, Kent Bazemore, Ryan Kelly, Steve Blake, Jordan Farmar, Nick Young and even Jordan Hill look like above average players.

It's just unfortunate the Lakers couldn't get a good defense minded assistant to go along with D'Antoni


I think a better move would have been to keep Brown (for defense) and bring DAntoni on as his assistant. From what I understand of the guy (MDA) he has a Phil size ego and there is no way he would have gone for that.
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