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| MIZ83 wrote: | Ethan Sherwood Strauss: When Curry is out, the W's avg. 98.3 pts/per 48 and are a -.7
When he is on the court, the W's avg 121.2 pts per 48 and are a +21.6 |
It's because he completely distorts defenses. He comes off a screen or a flare action or gets or sets an off ball screen and defenses jump to try to prevent him from getting the three, often with multiple defenders which just makes it so easy on the other guys. Despite what a certain Kobe fan thinks, Curry is unguardable in a team game. Guy makes the offense run. Curry has the same affect on defenses that Kobe did in his prime when he was on a tear. |
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The problem with on/off stats is that it often overlooks that Curry is playing with starter talent and then when he sits, often so do other starters so the bench mobs come into play. A true measure would be if Curry say missed 10 games, or if he came off the bench, and his replacement starter got to play with those starters.
GST has a solid bench, but not a great one, so it's not shocking if that's the case. However, he is truly the MVP of the league right now. This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant.
And unlike Harden or Lebron, I thoroughly enjoy Curry's game and it's easy to root for him. |
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And unlike Harden or Lebron, I thoroughly enjoy Curry's game and it's easy to root for him. |
Probably because Curry's game is a lot more skill-based. No gimmicks. Not someone that tries to draw cheap fouls. Great passer, lots of creativity on offense. And he's a pleasant fellow. Doesn't act like a jackass. Very few people weren't at least a bit moved by his MVP speech.
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| nevitt_smrek wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: |
And unlike Harden or Lebron, I thoroughly enjoy Curry's game and it's easy to root for him. |
Probably because Curry's game is a lot more skill-based. No gimmicks. Not someone that tries to draw cheap fouls. Great passer, lots of creativity on offense. And he's a pleasant fellow. Doesn't act like a jackass. Very few people weren't at least a bit moved by his MVP speech. |
yes indeed.
i've never enjoyed watching lebron aside from a few dunks here and there. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | The problem with on/off stats is that it often overlooks that Curry is playing with starter talent and then when he sits, often so do other starters so the bench mobs come into play. A true measure would be if Curry say missed 10 games, or if he came off the bench, and his replacement starter got to play with those starters.
GST has a solid bench, but not a great one, so it's not shocking if that's the case. However, he is truly the MVP of the league right now. This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant.
And unlike Harden or Lebron, I thoroughly enjoy Curry's game and it's easy to root for him. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant. |
More dominant than 2013 LeBron? 27, 8, 7 (led team in all 3) on 57%, 41% and 75% shooting. Arguably the best defender of the year as well, and was the teams primary defender to close games. |
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| Very easy to root for Curry indeed. He's a killer, he's not afraid and doesn't use gimmicks. STONE COLD SHOOTER IN YOUR FACE. Closest thing to Kobe I seen. |
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Just wanted to bump this thread - and didn't have a time to find it this morning.
Without Curry the GST Warriors were blown out against the Mavs.
There's no question of Curry's value right now.
And interesting enough, GST plays Houston tonight WITHOUT Curry. |
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant. |
More dominant than 2013 LeBron? 27, 8, 7 (led team in all 3) on 57%, 41% and 75% shooting. Arguably the best defender of the year as well, and was the teams primary defender to close games. |
Better than 13 Lebron, you can also make the case for 09 Lebron, 00 Shaq, 91 Jordan, 93 Hakeem and one of Wilt's years
He has the highest PER in the history of the game if he keeps this up we could very well be witnessing the GOAT season |
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| Snipes wrote: | | Very easy to root for Curry indeed. He's a killer, he's not afraid and doesn't use gimmicks. STONE COLD SHOOTER IN YOUR FACE. Closest thing to Kobe I seen. |
Great productivity like Kobe and a great shooter alright. But there differences between he and Kobe. Doesn't have the strength to go inside and draw contact with the bigs like Kobe did. He's much more of a finess player. |
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| Goldenwest wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Very easy to root for Curry indeed. He's a killer, he's not afraid and doesn't use gimmicks. STONE COLD SHOOTER IN YOUR FACE. Closest thing to Kobe I seen. |
Great productivity like Kobe and a great shooter alright. But there differences between he and Kobe. Doesn't have the strength to go inside and draw contact with the bigs like Kobe did. He's much more of a finess player. |
He doesn't have to draw contact if he can find creative ways to finish around them. His fg% in the paint is ridiculous right now |
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant. |
More dominant than 2013 LeBron? 27, 8, 7 (led team in all 3) on 57%, 41% and 75% shooting. Arguably the best defender of the year as well, and was the teams primary defender to close games. |
I love Curry, even though it was a loss I enjoyed watching him last night, but at this point in the season, I go with that Lebron season. But Curry has time yet to eclipse that.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant. |
More dominant than 2013 LeBron? 27, 8, 7 (led team in all 3) on 57%, 41% and 75% shooting. Arguably the best defender of the year as well, and was the teams primary defender to close games. |
I love Curry, even though it was a loss I enjoyed watching him last night, but at this point in the season, I go with that Lebron season. But Curry has time yet to eclipse that. |
I don't think Curry can ever eclipse what LeBron did that season. Basketball involved offense and defense. LeBron was arguably the games best player on both sides of the ball that year. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | This is the most dominant I've seen anyone play since 2005-06 Kobe Bryant. |
More dominant than 2013 LeBron? 27, 8, 7 (led team in all 3) on 57%, 41% and 75% shooting. Arguably the best defender of the year as well, and was the teams primary defender to close games. |
I love Curry, even though it was a loss I enjoyed watching him last night, but at this point in the season, I go with that Lebron season. But Curry has time yet to eclipse that. |
Curry's numbers will decline a bit as the season continues. Klay had a bad back to start the season. Now he is finally having a good stretch of games. Curry is content (as are the rest of the unselfish W's) to let him have a 22 point quarter, for example, and not look for his own so much. And as Thompson plays better along with Curry, they will sit a lot of 4th quarters. I think the rest of the season may look more like last season for GS. |
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| The_Dynasty24 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Very easy to root for Curry indeed. He's a killer, he's not afraid and doesn't use gimmicks. STONE COLD SHOOTER IN YOUR FACE. Closest thing to Kobe I seen. |
Great productivity like Kobe and a great shooter alright. But there differences between he and Kobe. Doesn't have the strength to go inside and draw contact with the bigs like Kobe did. He's much more of a finess player. |
He doesn't have to draw contact if he can find creative ways to finish around them. His fg% in the paint is ridiculous right now |
What kind of non contact moves can he make when there's traffic? His inside game lacks the physicality that's needed sometimes. Laughable to compare his inside game to lobes. Curry is not in Kobe or MJ's class. He's a different type of player. People are too quick to anoint the next Kobe/MJ around here  |
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MIZ83
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| Goldenwest wrote: | | The_Dynasty24 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | Very easy to root for Curry indeed. He's a killer, he's not afraid and doesn't use gimmicks. STONE COLD SHOOTER IN YOUR FACE. Closest thing to Kobe I seen. |
Great productivity like Kobe and a great shooter alright. But there differences between he and Kobe. Doesn't have the strength to go inside and draw contact with the bigs like Kobe did. He's much more of a finess player. |
He doesn't have to draw contact if he can find creative ways to finish around them. His fg% in the paint is ridiculous right now |
What kind of non contact moves can he make when there's traffic? His inside game lacks the physicality that's needed sometimes. Laughable to compare his inside game to lobes. Curry is not in Kobe or MJ's class. He's a different type of player. People are too quick to anoint the next Kobe/MJ around here |
Of course, there is a difference between Curry and Kobe. They play a different style. The comparison is that defenses totally have to sell out to play against them. They both can shoot effectively while being guarded extremely closely. To guard them requires picking them up 30' from the bucket. And while Curry finishes differently than Kobe in the paint, he does finish at a high rate. He releases the ball early or spins it in at angles away from the defender. Is he the next Kobe, ie. truly dominant player? Not yet. It depends upon whether the W's win 2 or 3 more championships. |
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