Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:34 am Post subject: How come our team doesn't take charges
One thing I have noticed about our team ever since Fisher left is that we don't take charges on defense. Our players have a problem shutting down the lanes on dribble drives because nobody provides help by sliding in to take a charge.
The injury to D'Angelo happened because he was trying to contest Gobert's layup by trying to block his shot when taking the charge could've sufficed, unfortunately for him he landed awkwardly and ended hurting his butt Gobert didn't even notice Russell was there.
I think this team would continue to be at the bottom 3 defensively if the coaching staff don't emphasize sliding in and taking the charge when opponents try to drive down the lane. We can't block every shot, a much more effective approach would be to take the charge and draw offensive fouls and make teams aware that you have to be careful when driving in for a layup against us. I hope someone gets this through to our coaching staff we need to be more savvy defensively, I mean Hibbert will block his share of shots but we need to help him and play defense as a team and adopt the art of taking the charge into our defensive schemes _________________ #mamba4ever!
Last edited by BigBoi on Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:39 am; edited 2 times in total
You saw what happened to Russell when he tried to rotate properly on defense while Gobert was heading to the hoop.
But Russell didn't get position he could've easily drawn the charge if he had taken position, he unwisely chose to challenge the shot instead _________________ #mamba4ever!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject:
Taking a charge is an option every player in the league has, yet few are willing to sacrifice their bodies. We remember plenty of different Lakers players, yet Fisher, who has been gone for years, is the example of a Lakers player taking charges who comes to mind. Why don't we remember Kobe doing it? Lamar? Bynum? Pau? Peace? Farmar? Walton? Ariza?
I'm led to believe that from the lack of players who are known for doing it throughout the league, taking a charge isn't something that's required by any coach, but it's only done by players with brave hearts.
Last edited by lakersboy on Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:29 pm; edited 1 time in total
Russell actually jumped up for whatever reason. The whole play reminded me of Deandre Jordan's dunk on Brandon Knight. Now that one looked worse since Knight jumped a bit higher, but he landed pretty flush on his back.
By charges do you mean, taking textbook charges, or being floppy like the other teams in the league?
When Lakers take them = textbook charge
When other teams take them = flop
In all seriousness, taking charges can be painful. Veterans are the ones that can get those calls with regularity but they're also the ones that are too old to be hitting the floor so much. When you're an inexperienced rookie and you take a hit to the chest and the foul is called on you, it gets old quick.
Kobe even said he doesn't take charges, it takes a toll on the body. Imagine if he was willing to take charges.. Probably wouldn't be playing right now. _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:23 pm Post subject:
D'Angelo got hurt even worse by strangely trying to block a 7 footer's shot. Should've tried to take the charge instead. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
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You saw what happened to Russell when he tried to rotate properly on defense while Gobert was heading to the hoop.
But Russell didn't get position he could've easily drawn the charge if he had taken position, he unwisely chose to challenge the shot instead
He was late. It wasn't even worth the effort. What did it cost him? Injury.
If you watch the clip again you'd see he wasn't late at all. If his mindset was to take the charge he was in the perfect position to take it and he would be playing in tonight's game, if he had been coached to take the charge in that situation. _________________ #mamba4ever!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:02 pm Post subject:
BigBoi wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
BigBoi wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Offensive oriented PGs.
You saw what happened to Russell when he tried to rotate properly on defense while Gobert was heading to the hoop.
But Russell didn't get position he could've easily drawn the charge if he had taken position, he unwisely chose to challenge the shot instead
He was late. It wasn't even worth the effort. What did it cost him? Injury.
If you watch the clip again you'd see he wasn't late at all. If his mindset was to take the charge he was in the perfect position to take it and he would be playing in tonight's game, if he had been coached to take the charge in that situation.
Uh, no. No way he gets outside the restricted area anywhere near in time.
You saw what happened to Russell when he tried to rotate properly on defense while Gobert was heading to the hoop.
But Russell didn't get position he could've easily drawn the charge if he had taken position, he unwisely chose to challenge the shot instead
He was late. It wasn't even worth the effort. What did it cost him? Injury.
If you watch the clip again you'd see he wasn't late at all. If his mindset was to take the charge he was in the perfect position to take it and he would be playing in tonight's game, if he had been coached to take the charge in that situation.
Uh, no. No way he gets outside the restricted area anywhere near in time.
Please watch again
If his intention was to take a charge he could've gotten both feet outside the restricted area. One foot was already outside the restricted area, he had ample time for both feet _________________ #mamba4ever!
That would have been a block as he would have planted at the same time Gobert did.
I diasgree, though the refs could've called it either way. But I bet the odds of him drawing a charge would be significantly higher than him trying to block Gobert's layup _________________ #mamba4ever!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:25 pm Post subject:
lakersboy wrote:
Taking a charge is an option every player in the league has, yet few are willing to sacrifice their bodies. We remember plenty of different Lakers players, yet Fisher, who has been gone for years, is the example of a Lakers player taking charges who comes to mind. Why don't we remember Kobe doing it? Lamar? Bynum? Pau? Peace? Farmar? Walton? Ariza?
I'm led to believe that from the lack of players who are known for doing it throughout the league, taking a charge isn't something that's required by any coach, but it's only done by players with brave hearts.
Actually, I do remember Lamar, Pau, and Farmar taking charges. They'd win the call half the time. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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