Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:25 am Post subject: Would you swap draft positions with last year's if you could?
We had the 2nd pick in the 2015 draft and the 7th in the 2014 draft. We took Russell and Randle respectively, but if you could have the 2nd pick in the 2014 draft and the 7th pick in the 2015 draft, would you do it and who would you take?
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:28 am Post subject:
I realize this is a hypothetical that never could have happened, but despite the fact that we never could have had the 7th pick this past offseason, no, I am fine with how things worked out. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Tough call... but probably not. I really like Jabari Parker, but I probably would've taken Stanley Johnson this year as BPA, and drafting two consecutive lottery SFs isn't great.
Yes. Last year's crop was better at the top and deeper.
My sentiment is that it's too early to tell. But I think you made the argument as to why you don't do this. The 2014 draft had "top 3 talent" seven spots deep. The 2015 draft had "top 3 talent" closer to four spots deep. LA ended up in range in both cases which wouldn't be the case with the swap. There was no Duncan, Shaq or LeBron in either draft so the very top wasn't a premium in either.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:15 pm Post subject:
Totally. Take Jabari Parker at #2 and Stanley Johnson or Justise Winslow at #7 this year. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
I realize this is a hypothetical that never could have happened, but despite the fact that we never could have had the 7th pick this past offseason, no, I am fine with how things worked out.
Megaton wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Totally. Take Jabari Parker at #2 and Stanley Johnson or Justise Winslow at #7 this year.
Except we wouldn't have the 7th pick this year because it would go to the 76ers since its outside the top 5.
No offense to the OP but I don't think you thought this through.
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Last edited by Annihilator on Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:47 pm; edited 1 time in total
Totally. Take Jabari Parker at #2 and Stanley Johnson or Justise Winslow at #7 this year.
Except we wouldn't have the 7th pick this year because it would go to the 76ers since its outside the top 5.
No offense to the OP but I don't think you thought this through.
This was just a theoretical situation that I thought would be fun to explore, I wasn't considering whether or not it could actually happen in real life or not
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject:
Mike@LG wrote:
Yes. Last year's crop was better at the top and deeper.
You like Jabari that much more than Randle or DLo? _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Yes. Last year's crop was better at the top and deeper.
You like Jabari that much more than Randle or DLo?
I look at it from the perspective of, who was considered a franchise player leading into the draft?
Last year, it was undoubtedly Wiggins and Parker, with possibly a few others. I was highly confident that Parker would be a 20-10 3-skills in a 4 body player down the line, and he projected that early on during his rookie campaign.
With Russell, it's different. Towns was the only one really thought of as a franchise player by consensus, but Okafor, Russell, and others weren't as for sure.
It's weird. I don't see Russell as a franchise player. I see him as a borderline All-Star type. It just depends on how a person defines a franchise player. Some people see Ginobili as one. If so, then it's easier to consider Russell as a franchise player. I don't.
But hey, I was on that Exum bandwagon and saw A LOT of improvement in just one summer, thinking he could be franchise too until he tore his ACL. Sad really. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:21 pm Post subject:
Mike@LG wrote:
LandsbergerRules wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Yes. Last year's crop was better at the top and deeper.
You like Jabari that much more than Randle or DLo?
I look at it from the perspective of, who was considered a franchise player leading into the draft?
Last year, it was undoubtedly Wiggins and Parker, with possibly a few others. I was highly confident that Parker would be a 20-10 3-skills in a 4 body player down the line, and he projected that early on during his rookie campaign.
With Russell, it's different. Towns was the only one really thought of as a franchise player by consensus, but Okafor, Russell, and others weren't as for sure.
It's weird. I don't see Russell as a franchise player. I see him as a borderline All-Star type. It just depends on how a person defines a franchise player. Some people see Ginobili as one. If so, then it's easier to consider Russell as a franchise player. I don't.
But hey, I was on that Exum bandwagon and saw A LOT of improvement in just one summer, thinking he could be franchise too until he tore his ACL. Sad really.
Thanks for your input. I actually didn't know what your view of Russell was. I'm thinking he can be a Chauncey Billups/Nick Van Exel caliber player. For my view of franchise player, I'd consider a franchise player to be a perennial MVP candidate throughout their prime. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
Yes. Last year's crop was better at the top and deeper.
You like Jabari that much more than Randle or DLo?
I look at it from the perspective of, who was considered a franchise player leading into the draft?
Last year, it was undoubtedly Wiggins and Parker, with possibly a few others. I was highly confident that Parker would be a 20-10 3-skills in a 4 body player down the line, and he projected that early on during his rookie campaign.
With Russell, it's different. Towns was the only one really thought of as a franchise player by consensus, but Okafor, Russell, and others weren't as for sure.
It's weird. I don't see Russell as a franchise player. I see him as a borderline All-Star type. It just depends on how a person defines a franchise player. Some people see Ginobili as one. If so, then it's easier to consider Russell as a franchise player. I don't.
But hey, I was on that Exum bandwagon and saw A LOT of improvement in just one summer, thinking he could be franchise too until he tore his ACL. Sad really.
I mean, if Russell reaches a Ginobili caliber level of play without being restricted by durability and minutes, that's one heck of a player. I'd say that's an all-star year in and year out. Manu has never averaged more than 31 minutes per game. If Russell is that caliber in the standard 36-38 minutes expected for stars and starters, I'd gladly take it.
Interesting thought. Prior to Randle's last two preseason games I would have been tempted to say yes as Parker was available at #2. Now it's not so clear-cut who will have a bigger impact.
In terms of 2015, there's nobody available at #7 that, when combined with Parker, I'd take over Randle and Russell. Mike brings up the interesting point of maximizing your chance of obtaining a franchise player. Even though Parker is probably the closest in terms of standard criteria, he reminds me of Carmelo in that I can't imagine him leading a team to a championship. Even if Russell wasn't considered a potential franchise-player, his ability to make other players better is possibly more valuable. Similarly, there are many non-franchise-player-level PGs I'd rather have than Carmelo on my team.
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