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kaoss128
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| He's a chance you have to take. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that.
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Jim99187
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
only on a non guaranteed minimum deal |
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kaoss128
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
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fontana3d
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Assuming Sacre gets canned and Randle, Bass and Hibbert are locks as our bigs.
Sanders vs Black, Upshaw, Holmes, Kelly, Nance.
Id take a healthy Sanders over them. But doubt hes healthy--mind and body. |
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Rivershow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
That's what I'm worried about. Do we know his effort will be there or is he just looking to collect a paycheck? |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
That's what I'm worried about. Do we know his effort will be there or is he just looking to collect a paycheck? |
Cut Sacre and sign Sanders for the minimum. No big loss either way. |
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kaoss128
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
That's what I'm worried about. Do we know his effort will be there or is he just looking to collect a paycheck? |
Then cut him if it's not. Pretty simple. |
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Kava
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:32 am Post subject: |
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On a developing team with a bunch of young hopefuls let's not invite anyone where we have to question his commitment.
He's not going to make that big of a difference either way. I would rather give those minutes to Upshaw & Black. And that's assuming that Bass is also going to log a lot of minutes as a backup C. |
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Rivershow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| kaoss128 wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
That's what I'm worried about. Do we know his effort will be there or is he just looking to collect a paycheck? |
Then cut him if it's not. Pretty simple. |
If we sign him then we would probably have to cut Black depending on whether we are signing MWP. And I'm not prepared to cut a good energy big like Black to hope that Sanders is not playing for a paycheck with no effort behind it. |
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kaoss128
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | He's a chance you have to take. |
Only for a minimum deal. Iirc we still have our room exception? No way he gets any of that. |
I doubt anyone would offer more than that. With Sanders we would have 48 straight minutes of All Defense caliber play at the center position. That would be huge. |
Still no because this guy can fall apart at any moment. |
That's what I'm worried about. Do we know his effort will be there or is he just looking to collect a paycheck? |
Then cut him if it's not. Pretty simple. |
If we sign him then we would probably have to cut Black depending on whether we are signing MWP. And I'm not prepared to cut a good energy big like Black to hope that Sanders is not playing for a paycheck with no effort behind it. |
Where is Black going to go? It's not even a sure thing another team would pick him up. He's never going to develop into a meaningful player. If Sanders can be what he was he is a big time player. |
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| Should tell you something that a team as desperate and dice-rolling as the Mavs isn't interested. |
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Hector the Pup
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I would say the fact that he walked away from an 8 figure contract, stated he didn't like playing basketball and, just to make things interesting, has a substance abuse problem, just might send up a teeny tiny red flag or two.
Call me crazy, but when I go down the checklist of things I look for in a player, I tend to put actually liking playing the game fairly high up there. |
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kaoss128
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | I would say the fact that he walked away from an 8 figure contract, stated he didn't like playing basketball and, just to make things interesting, has a substance abuse problem, just might send up a teeny tiny red flag or two.
Call me crazy, but when I go down the checklist of things I look for in a player, I tend to put actually liking playing the game fairly high up there. |
Hassan Whiteside had a lot of red flags too. |
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Hector the Pup
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| kaoss128 wrote: | | Hector the Pup wrote: | I would say the fact that he walked away from an 8 figure contract, stated he didn't like playing basketball and, just to make things interesting, has a substance abuse problem, just might send up a teeny tiny red flag or two.
Call me crazy, but when I go down the checklist of things I look for in a player, I tend to put actually liking playing the game fairly high up there. |
Hassan Whiteside had a lot of red flags too. |
Difference is that Sanders had already made it and walked away.
Whiteside is more of a best case scenario for Upshaw, and even then it's about a 1000 to 1 shot. |
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PhoenixForce
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| There's no way he passes a drug test. He's been spending his time in Cali since "retiring". |
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kaoss128
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | kaoss128 wrote: | | Hector the Pup wrote: | I would say the fact that he walked away from an 8 figure contract, stated he didn't like playing basketball and, just to make things interesting, has a substance abuse problem, just might send up a teeny tiny red flag or two.
Call me crazy, but when I go down the checklist of things I look for in a player, I tend to put actually liking playing the game fairly high up there. |
Hassan Whiteside had a lot of red flags too. |
Difference is that Sanders had already made it and walked away.
Whiteside is more of a best case scenario for Upshaw, and even then it's about a 1000 to 1 shot. |
Also the difference is Sanders has already proven he can play. |
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Jim99187
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | There's no way he passes a drug test. He's been spending his time in Cali since "retiring". |
big time assumption |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Did Sanders get a sizeable payout from the Bucks?
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CaliRyderX
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | There's no way he passes a drug test. He's been spending his time in Cali since "retiring". |
I'm not sure if you're joking or being sincere, but either way, that's not nice... |
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The Logo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Sanders isn't gonna go from getting paid nearly nine figures on starter minutes to barely getting paid a million dollars with limited minutes off the bench and be satisfied after retiring because he didn't like playing basketball. |
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CaliRyderX
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Did Sanders get a sizeable payout from the Bucks? |
He got a $13.3 Million buyout from the Bucks, which will be paid to him over 7 years($1.9M/per year). |
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EldenCampbell
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Better than Robert Sacre. |
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CaliRyderX
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| EldenCampbell wrote: | | Better than Robert Sacre. |
Peter Dinklage would be better than Sacre. |
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