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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:18 pm    Post subject: WARRIORS -at- LAKERS - 10-17-15 - Thoughts and :-)) Ratings

Game Called… Luckily, no one got injured.

Every few minutes a player would slip and wind up on the floor. It was ridiculous. Late in the third quarter when Barbosa slipped again, they called the game. It’s unfortunate because it took away valuable time from guys trying to make the team and showcase their skills. It’s unfortunate for the fans in San Diego. But that was certainly an injury waiting to happen.

And just when the Lakers were putting together their best game of the preseason. They had an 85-70 lead when it was called late in the third quarter.

In the first quarter, Randle showed his dominance on his way to a 14-point quarter before sitting the rest of the night. Draymond Green, runner up in the Defensive Player of the Year award, didn’t have a chance. Randle was too beastly.

In the second quarter it was 32-year-old rookie Marcelo Huertas doing his best Steve Nash MVP impersonation, lighting the Warriors up with one-footed jumpers and finding open teammates for scores. The Lakers built up a halftime lead.

Third quarter was stolen by Larry Nance Jr. putting Festus Ezeli in the poster. That throwdown was one of the top plays of the preseason for all NBA teams.

“The guy didn’t stop going up and up and up, and all of a sudden it was like one of the most amazing dunks I’ve seen in my life,” Huertas said.

Too bad we didn’t get to see more of it.

“My playing days we went through the same thing once or twice and we called the game,” Scott said. He wouldn’t say they got the win, but that they did play better and make progress. Much better game from L.A. tonight.


Clarkson -- -- He had a one-handed putback jam that was probably the play of the game before Nance destroyed the rim. With Kobe out, Clarkson dropped 17 points in just 18 minutes. You knew he would throttle it up a little. Very effective game from him on that end. Good job finishing around the rim with the layups in addition to that dunk and also with the floater. He didn’t have any of the playmaking but that was closer to the Clarkson we saw at the end of last season. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 7-9 shooting (1-2 from three, 2-3 from the line) to go with 5 boards (3 offensive), 1 turnover and 1 foul in 18 minutes. He was a +3. The Action: He threw up a prayer, got it back and scored the easy one. He made a tech FT. He iso’d with the shotclock low and swished the 27-foot three. He pushed it up, got contact and scored the layup. He drew FTs on a wing three (guess they ruled that a two), he made one, but got his miss back. He kept a Randle drive alive and Randle turned it into FTs. He sank a floater in the middle of the lane. He worked a tight two-man game to Hibbert down low, Hibbert missed the layup and Clarkson elevated and one-hand crammed down the offensive putback. He missed a long three with 7 on the shotclock. Second Half: He was called for a charge on the pass off, erased a dunk. He curled around the Upshaw screen and scored the layup. He scored a layup on the break when Nance set up him off the steal and push out.

Randle -- -- After blowing past Draymond Green on his way to his 14-point first quarter, Randle walked back to the freethrow line, “He can’t guard me,” he said shaking his head. Alpha blood running through this one, giving it back to Draymond who was trying to be physical and in Randle’s ear earlier. Randle got his 14 points on 4-8 shooting in that quarter. “A good guy to test myself against,” Randle said. He showed some of the jumper today and also trying to finish with the right hand. Impressive game tonight. This was probably a 20-point half and maybe a 30-point game. “I love the track that he’s on,” Worthy said. About the floor, Randle said they had to be cautious in certain areas of the court. The Stats: He scored 14 points on 4-8 shooting (6-7 from the line) to go with 3 boards and 2 fouls (thought for sure he had three) in 12 minutes. He had a +/- of 0. The Action: He swished the top-of-the-key jumper on his first attempt. He picked up a foul on a reach, then a double foul a few seconds later. He missed an off-balance fading bank after bringing the ball up, poor shot selection. Not close on a 19-footer. He attacked, missed, got the loose ball and drew FTs, he made both. He picked up his third foul trying to block a shot. He scooped up a loose ball and muscled it in over Green. He spun on Green to attack baseline and drew FTs on the finish attempt, he made one. He cut down the lane, took the pass from Hibbert and powered in a layup. He couldn’t finish a putback at the front of the rim. He attacked across the lane and hit the And-1 jumphook, he made the FT. Explosive step to his right, he got hacked by Green and just missed the And-1 layup, he made both FTs (talked some trash it looked like after that foul). He threw an inbounds off a player’s backside and brought the dribble up (second time this preseason). Second Half: He did not play.

Russell -- -- Back in the starting lineup, he couldn’t knock down the perimeter shot (he had been shooting 57% from three prior to this one). Picture when he does hit those shots and Randle is dominating as he did, and Clarkson plays as he did. That’s our young trio. The Lakers went for 31 points in the first quarter despite Russell’s 1-6. That some firepower. He had a couple of assists in the quarter. His lone field goal was off a nice steal on man D on the perimeter (more please) where he took it the distance for the highlight, around-the-back layup. Huertas is a great pickup for the Lakers to have for D’Lo to learn from this year. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-6 shooting (0-4 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 1 board, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He had a +/- of 0. The Action: He stripped his man on the perimeter, took it the distance, went behind his back on his man and scored the layup. He lost the handle or his pass was picked off. He kicked to Clarkson, who took it for a floater. He missed a quick-fire three from the top of the arc. He missed a three short in transition. He missed a layup off an interior feed. He got tapped on a three up against the shotclock, Hibbert got the board, Russell cut and Hibbert found him for FTs, he made both. He stumbled a little and missed an off-balance chuck from three at the buzzer. Second Half: He didn’t play in the half.

Hibbert -- -- A number of positives again from Roy in this game. First, of course, he gives the Lakers a true anchor back there. It didn’t help when our D gave up 31 points in that first quarter, however. Secondly, the rebounding has been especially strong this preseason. I don’t know if that’s a contract year thing or a change of scenery thing, but I like it. Third, how about that passing? He’s finding cutters well (Randle and Russell in this one). The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-3 shooting to go with 6 boards, 1 assist, 2 blocks and 3 fouls in 12 minutes. He had a +/- of 0. The Action: He attacked down the lane but couldn’t finish. He missed a wing jumper. He swatted a layup to ignite the break. He hit Randle cutting down the lane for a layup. He missed a layup on the two-man game with Clarkson, but Clarkson slammed down the miss. Great help D to roof a man when a guard had a mismatch. He grabbed an offensive board and hit a cutting Russell for FTs. Second Half: He did not play in the half.

A. Brown -- -- He didn’t make much impact in this game. The slippery floor didn’t help on the D end, but he also anticipated wrong on a couple of reads and looked foolish. I like that the Lakers tried to set him up for a jumper on the first play of the game. Next time, hopefully, he knocks it down. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting to go with 1 board, 1 assist and 1 foul in 18 minutes. He was a +3. The Action: He missed a wing jumper on the Lakers first possession. He got crossed over sitting on a screen and gave up a layup. He missed a drive but crashed the glass and got it back. Second Half: Nothing to report.

Huertas -- -- Finally, we get to see Huertas play his first NBA game. He didn’t disappoint. “I just tried to have as much fun as I could,” Huertas said. He showed excellent court vision and that Nash-like ability to hit those running one-footed jumpers. “He’s a true point guard in every sense of the word,” Scott said, pleased Huertas translated his practice play to an actual NBA game. Huertas matched up against the other Brazilian, Barbosa. Then, Steph Curry came in. Welcome to the NBA. Marcelo held his own reasonably defensively in this stretch. Short sample size, of course. Offensively, he thrived. I wish we could have seen him with Black instead of Sacre. Black is a better roll man. But he set Sacre up once for a dunk (another time Sacre fumbled a between-the-legs pass from Huertas). What really stood out was the pinpoint passes all around the court to his shooters, who were knocking them down, and his command of the court and screen-roll game. Everyone talks about D’Angelo needing to be more explosive, but if you look at a guy like Huertas or Nash, this is how you can be effective without needing to do that. Hopefully, Huertas can teach the young guards some of that savvy. Great first quarter of ball from him as it changed the complexion of the game. Keep it up. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-2 shooting to go with 1 board, 6 assists, 1 block, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He airballed a pull-up runner at the FT line. Quick attack from the sideline and he banked in the one-foot runner from the left side. He worked the two-man game with Sacre and hit the baseline, Nash-like one-foot jumper (he wanted the foul). He spotted Jabari cross court for a three. Sweet touch pass on the perimeter to Nick for the three. On the other end, he erased a transition score with a charge. He worked off the double high screen and threaded the needle to Nick in the corner for a three next time down. He called for the same play, this time he hit Sacre wide open for the dunk under the hoop. He hit Nick again for a wing three. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Young -- -- Huertas found him for three threes in a row in the second quarter as the Lakers built a lead on the Warriors. That combo was tearing up Golden State. Nick is getting a lot more simple catch-and-shoot opportunities this year. We aren’t having him dance with the ball and try to create unless it’s a final shot of the quarter or something. It will be interesting to see more with Huertas. He’s our only true PG on this roster and both Nick and Lou should thrive off of that. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 3-6 shooting (3-4 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 1 assist, 1 steal and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He missed a wing three on a kickout. He missed another wing three. He missed a wing pull-up jumper. He sank a sideline three off the great touch pass from Huertas. He sank a corner three next time down when Huertas threaded the needle to him. He pushed up the break and hit Jabari, who took it for the layup. On fire and Huertas found him again for a wing And-1 three, he made the FT. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Kelly -- -- He wasn’t too effective scoring tonight, but still looked aggressive. Good job mixing up the drives and jumpers. Again, just a quarter of play and he pulled down 4 boards. He has been hitting the boards well this preseason, something he’s mentioned he’s needed to do a better job at. Of course, playing at the PF instead of the SF helps that. He’s had a strong preseason, better than he looked all last season, for sure. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-6 shooting (0-1 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block and no fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He attacked with purpose and drew FTs overwhelming his man in the paint, he made both. He missed a tough corner three up against the shotclock. He rejected a drive from behind off the glass. He up-faked in transition, blew past his man and scored the layup. He missed a pull-up wing jumper. He attacked from the wing and was blocked. He missed a jumper off the inbounds, short. Not close on a drive. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Nance -- -- He had the rewind play of the night. When we drafted him, this was the moment I was waiting for…Nance going crazy skyward and hammering. He attacked from the wing off the dribble on a play called by Scott in the timeout. Upshaw’s man, Ezeli, went to challenge Nance and BOOM!!! The building was buzzing. “That’s what I do. When I got my two steps planted I knew there was nobody who could jump with me,” Nance said. Combine that with the three he made earlier in the quarter and you can see what the Lakers were hoping for from him. Kelly said he’s been posterized by Nance in practice, adding that Larry comes out of nowhere for putback slams. He puts in the work. Hopefully, that becomes something we see on a consistent basis. Like all rookies, that consistency is the real challenge. Defensively, he showed some very nice hands on the two-man D, getting a couple of steals. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-4 shooting (1-1 from three, 1-4 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +6. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He sank a turnaround jumper working the two-man game with Metta. He sank a wing three when his man sagged off on him (that’s the shot that will elevate his game to new heights). He took an interior feed and drew FTs, he made one. He swiped the ball under the hoop, but then panicked and threw up a wild layup attempt that wasn’t close. He stripped a man on the two-man D, pushed it up and fed Clarkson for the layup. Great reach again to strip a ball off Curry and get a stop. Wow. Play of the Game. He curled into the lane and got a running start at the rim, Ezeli tried to challenge and Larry just hammered. The Warrior bench ducked and hid their faces. He drew FTs getting mowed down on a screen, he missed both.

Upshaw -- -- This is why you don’t cut him…the Laker D broke down and Upshaw was the only man back, he quickly bounced off his man and rejected the layup. No one else on the team behind Hibbert can protect the rim. The Lakers looked horribly small with Bass at the backup C spot. Sacre has played like cold oatmeal, serviceable but not anything you want to have seconds of. Black is athletic, but not quite big enough to do that without fouling. Combine that with his ability to set fast screens, look mobile off the dribble (sweet up-fake and dunk tonight) and hit from midrange, the potential is all there if the mind stays on the right path. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-1 shooting to go with 2 boards, 1 block and 2 fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +6. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: Sweet up-fake to completely fool the defender, he then attacked and hammered down the dunk. Nice challenge on Rush, but he had to foul on Ezeli’s putback attempt. He swatted a layup at the last second to save a sure hoop.

World Peace -- -- He finally sank a three tonight. I think the outside shooting in games would probably be the biggest obstacle for MWP in making the team. We don’t know what he’s looking like in practice in that regard. He’s done a pretty good job in the preseason of creating off the dribble and finding teammates. That’s probably been his biggest strength on the offensive end. He’d be great as a vet leader and definitely shows he’s got some game left, but he’s on the bubble. Seems just about everyone would love to have him as a player development coach. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-5 shooting (1-3 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 3 assists, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +6. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He tried to post up and was blocked. He worked the two-man game to Nash who made a turnaround jumper. He put his man on rollerskates and setup Nance for FTs. Wild attempt from three and he missed. He missed a corner three. He faced up and missed a wing jumper. He was called for a foul using his off-arm on a drive. He was fouled while Frazier hit a jumper, Metta made the And-1 FT. He finally swished a wing three coming off the floppy.

J. Brown -- -- Good game from Jabari, showing that ability again to get to the line and also knock it down from long distance. Those are coveted skills in this era of basketball. If the team doesn’t sign Frazier and let’s one of Sacre or Black go, that leaves only one of Metta, Jabari and Jonathan Holmes making the team. Overall, none of the three is running away with it. Holmes’s opportunity got cut short tonight. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 3-6 shooting (1-2 from three, 2-4 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 steal and no fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He was tied up in transition for a jumpball. He attacked strong in transition and drew FTs, he made one. He sank a three on a cross-court pass from Huertas. Not close on the next three in transition, not getting squared up well. He swiped a perimeter pass and took it for the dunk. Quick attack and he bullied his way to more FTs, he made one. He took the pass from Young on the break and scored the layup. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Sacre -- -- I keep thinking of two plays from Upshaw that Sacre just can’t make. The first was a block at the rim by Upshaw that would have been a layup or foul if Sacre were the man back. The second was the up-fake and dunk by Upshaw. That’s not the kind of play we ever see from Sacre. Sacre has the advantage on Upshaw by being a great teammate. Upshaw has to prove he do that, unlike at his previous stops. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-2 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 4 boards and 3 fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He got shoved (why?) on a post move and drew FTs, he made both. Looked like he missed a cutter with and swung it out instead. He fumbled a between-the-legs pass from Huertas, grrr. He missed a jumphook on iso. Poor box out and he gave up an offensive board on the missed FT. He dunked off the great screen-roll setup from Huertas. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Frazier -- -- There aren’t enough roster spots, unfortunately. I like his size and shooting range. He showed some strong rebounding tonight and some fire on the offensive end. He’s clearly got an NBA body and range. I’d love to have a few more roster spots just for the D-League with contract guarantees and retaining rights. If he doesn’t make the team, as it appears, I’ll definitely be watching for him in the D-League.The Stats: He scored 5 points on 2-3 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +6. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: Looked like his stripped his man in the lane. He sank a jumper from the top of the arc on the other end. Looked like he drew a good charge call, but they whistled him for the block. He missed a baseline pull-up jumper. He was called for a travel changing pivots. He attacked from the wing and drew FTs trying to muscle in a drive, he made one. He curled around the screen and hit the pull-up at the top of the key.

Scott -- -- No Kobe, no Williams, but Huertas in the mix tonight. Scott put Russell into Kobe’s spot on the starting lineup, keeping Brown at starting SF… The Lakers trailed 17-15 when the timeout came midway through the first quarter… Randle picked up three fouls in 6 minutes… The Lakers trailed 27-24 when the next timeout came three minutes later. Some choppy up-and-down action… Randle taking over and the Lakers took a small lead… The Lakers were tied 31-31 after the first quarter… To start the second quarter, he made a wholesale change (pretty sure he’ll stagger these subs in the regular season) and brought in Sacre, Kelly, Young, Jabari and Huertas… A big break in the game as they tried to take care of the slippery floor. Players were going down right and left with the hockey ice underneath… Curry back in and Huertas had to D-up on him. Good test… Huertas just destroying the Warriors defense, Nick hitting threes and the Lakers forced a timeout, up 7… The Lakers led 62-53 at the half. The Lakers shot 5-13 from three and 42% overall. The Warriors shot 7-15 from three and 40 percent overall. Just 2 turnovers by the Lakers, 8 by the Warriors… He started a Clarkson, Frazier, Peace, Nance and Upshaw unit… They got the Warriors in the penalty early… Brown in for Clarkson… The Lakers pushed the lead to 15… Game called with 2 minutes left in the third… The Warriors had 0 points off 5 Laker turnovers. That’s a huge difference from the first few games… Good call by the refs, Scott and Walton on calling it…
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:23 pm    Post subject:

First and I was there for the game! Disappointed that Kobe didn't play (or Williams or Klay Thompson)

Crowd was angry it was called early but the floor was a mess. Hear there will be refunds so that should help sooth some irritated fans.

I was impressed by Huertas, Randle, Upshaw, Clarkson, Hibbert and my oh my that dunk by Nance (who also hit a three pointer and played some defense). Not impressed by Russell, he made a good pass or two but very quiet night for him.

Team played well against the world champs and were up by 15 when the game was called. And the Lakers were up even with second and third stringers in the game and often with Curry still out there (sinking a lot of 3-pointers with ease).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:30 pm    Post subject:

Nice observations as always. I went to the game and it was indeed slippery. It was a rather weird game. I've never seen that much slipping.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:32 pm    Post subject:

I have a feeling you're gonna be using that emoticon for Randle a lot this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:35 pm    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
I have a feeling you're gonna be using that emoticon for Randle a lot this season.


Well, only since there's no "T-Rex arms, can't go to his right" emoticon.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:40 pm    Post subject:

Thx DB

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject:

Man, I like that visual image of Russell being able to do what Huertas was doing.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject:

Russell's per 36 minutes this preseason:

11.8 points, 9 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 2.4 TO, 2.4 PF, 33.3%, 36.4% 3PT.

People really going on wild swings after a few minutes of play each game. He's only really played about 2 games worth of ball so far.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:41 pm    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
I have a feeling you're gonna be using that emoticon for Randle a lot this season.
Well, only since there's no "T-Rex arms, can't go to his right" emoticon.
Keep using that "emoticon!"

Great job, DB!

The three "Lakereers" (our version of the Three Musketeers) of Randle, Clarkson and DLO are starting to get their feet on the ground - hopefully DLO will catch up soon.

Difference between Frazier, Holmes and MWP (for this roster) is that MWP can be the 11th or 12th man and still be effective in practice or in spot MPG because he is a "game-changer" on defense that includes intensity and embracing moments of great pressure. If this was just a pure developmental season, Holmes or Frazier would be the logical choices.

As you had shared, Huerta was great. The other talented PGs that are the future of the Lakers can learn the needed leadership and basketball IQ skills needed to be part of a winning tradition.

The 'Final Countdown" of the Days of Sacre is till going on for a few more days
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject:

Nice game, I really enjoyed it

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!

After reading through the T&R and looking at highlights, I realize there was good reason that so many LG posters including myself were calling for more playing time for Upshaw, and were also hoping to see what Nance and Huertas could do.

So glad they showed up for this one!

I heard really good things about Huertas so my hopes were kinda high but he looks like he's even better than I thought his best case would be. If he can do this day in and day out, then Dang I want him in the rotation!!!

Nance!! I KNEW he had that in him and it was just a matter of time! The most encouraging thing I saw though was how poised he was. He took the open 3 and made them pay for cheating off him on defense. He was active himself on defense. I want him in the rotation too!

Then there's Upshaw. Doing all the things Sacre can't. Looking like an impact player.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:10 am    Post subject:

If Nance plays like this, you may be able to bring back the four horseman.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:28 am    Post subject:

Randle has always done well against Dray Green !

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:03 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:43 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
Russell's per 36 minutes this preseason:

11.8 points, 9 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 2.4 TO, 2.4 PF, 33.3%, 36.4% 3PT.

People really going on wild swings after a few minutes of play each game. He's only really played about 2 games worth of ball so far.


Those numbers are inflated by that Maccabi game. Not impressed yet. Think he's really pressing and it's showing. The fact you have to go to the per 36 numbers to help look at his production says alot about his lack of "impact" so far. Clarkson looked lost early on last year as well. I'm sure DeAngelo will get it. So far, he looks like a deer in headlights.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:18 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:47 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. I find myself with my eyes glued on Randle. This dude plays with a major chip on his shoulder. To see him take to Green like that was great to see. When he posted him up, spun baseline, and went up strong for the dunk (he was fouled), I could have sworn I saw Zach Randolph's body with Worthy's face. All he needed was the trademarked goggles.

Not too worried about Russell. He's a 19 year old rookie. He'll find his way. He just needs experience. Hope Byron plays him at least 30 mpg all year. Him and Randle will be a lethal 1-2 punch in 2-3 years.

I'm very impressed with Clarkson. He's playing with a swagger that is great to see. When him and Russell gels, we'll have one of the best backcourts in the league (which is huge during the small ball era.

I believe we are going to shock a lot of people this year. Should be fun to see the kids grow before our eyes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:58 am    Post subject:

Save this headline for later in the season, we will need it...

LAKERS BEAT DEFENDING NBA CHAMPIONS!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:16 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Nance Jr. I watched and read up on the guy after the draft and immediately started imagining what his skill set would look like. The point I've been pressing about him is that with his huge hands, long arms, and the will to dunk on anybody, he's going to be a special player. The comp I made was Bobby Jones of Philly because of his all around game of excellence.

Question: did anyone else notice how effective the Lakers defense was when we had Nance Jr, MWP, Upshaw, Frazier, and Anthony Brown out there? MWP with his quick hands, and Brown with his long arms and quick feet were really getting after the opponent, Nance Jr., was waiting on the weakside with his long arms and jumping ability, Upshaw with his long arms and active game was patrolling the paint, and Frazier is a strong Joe Fraizier-like dude who was muscling anyone he guarded.

They had challenges scoring but their defensive effort and cohesiveness was notable.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:22 am    Post subject:

Texas_Pete wrote:
Thanks DB. I find myself with my eyes glued on Randle. This dude plays with a major chip on his shoulder. To see him take to Green like that was great to see. When he posted him up, spun baseline, and went up strong for the dunk (he was fouled), I could have sworn I saw Zach Randolph's body with Worthy's face. All he needed was the trademarked goggles.

Not too worried about Russell. He's a 19 year old rookie. He'll find his way. He just needs experience. Hope Byron plays him at least 30 mpg all year. Him and Randle will be a lethal 1-2 punch in 2-3 years.

I'm very impressed with Clarkson. He's playing with a swagger that is great to see. When him and Russell gels, we'll have one of the best backcourts in the league (which is huge during the small ball era.

I believe we are going to shock a lot of people this year. Should be fun to see the kids grow before our eyes.


That's the mark of a special player. Same here. The adjective Billy Mac, or whomever it was, used, was "violent". He moves with a kind of hell bent to impose his will on anyone kind of game. I don't think he believes anyone in the league can stop him. He might be right.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:33 am    Post subject:

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First and I was there for the game! Disappointed that Kobe didn't play (or Williams or Klay Thompson)

Crowd was angry it was called early but the floor was a mess. Hear there will be refunds so that should help sooth some irritated fans.

I was impressed by Huertas, Randle, Upshaw, Clarkson, Hibbert and my oh my that dunk by Nance (who also hit a three pointer and played some defense). Not impressed by Russell, he made a good pass or two but very quiet night for him.

Team played well against the world champs and were up by 15 when the game was called. And the Lakers were up even with second and third stringers in the game and often with Curry still out there (sinking a lot of 3-pointers with ease).


I don't wish someone who paid to attend the game miss Kobe, but I was very happy to hear he wasn't playing. I wanted to see the team play without the large, imposing presence of our HOF'er.

I wanted to see them move, and move the ball, in a manner they wouldn't if Kobe's there. What was really nice to watch, besides Huertas leadership, was Julius & Clarkson's leadership as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:02 am    Post subject:

LakerEric wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
Russell's per 36 minutes this preseason:

11.8 points, 9 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 2.4 TO, 2.4 PF, 33.3%, 36.4% 3PT.

People really going on wild swings after a few minutes of play each game. He's only really played about 2 games worth of ball so far.


Those numbers are inflated by that Maccabi game. Not impressed yet. Think he's really pressing and it's showing. The fact you have to go to the per 36 numbers to help look at his production says alot about his lack of "impact" so far. Clarkson looked lost early on last year as well. I'm sure DeAngelo will get it. So far, he looks like a deer in headlights.


The fact I have to look at per 36 is that he's played just 76 minutes in the preseason. That's about 2 games worth, which is what I said above. It's not about searching for "impact"... It's perspective. Put everything he's done together this preseason (good and bad) and it's just two games. This is the sample size and people freak out over a quarter worth of play from last night?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:39 am    Post subject:

Don't get why they don't just have large sheets of styrofoam to insulate the floor so that no condensation occurs.

Rebuild the floor and prevent this kind of BS...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
LakerEric wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
Russell's per 36 minutes this preseason:

11.8 points, 9 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 2.4 TO, 2.4 PF, 33.3%, 36.4% 3PT.

People really going on wild swings after a few minutes of play each game. He's only really played about 2 games worth of ball so far.


Those numbers are inflated by that Maccabi game. Not impressed yet. Think he's really pressing and it's showing. The fact you have to go to the per 36 numbers to help look at his production says alot about his lack of "impact" so far. Clarkson looked lost early on last year as well. I'm sure DeAngelo will get it. So far, he looks like a deer in headlights.


The fact I have to look at per 36 is that he's played just 76 minutes in the preseason. That's about 2 games worth, which is what I said above. It's not about searching for "impact"... It's perspective. Put everything he's done together this preseason (good and bad) and it's just two games. This is the sample size and people freak out over a quarter worth of play from last night?


I think what he means is that those per 36 numbers aren't an accurate reflection of his post season. For example his assist numbers are so high because he had 11 against Maccabi. His next highest total was 3. Against nba competition his per 36 assist numbers would be about 5.

I get what you're saying about perspective, especially considering such a small sample size, I just think most people (myself included) are a little taken aback by Russell's complete lack of confidence so far.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
LakerEric wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
Russell's per 36 minutes this preseason:

11.8 points, 9 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 2.4 TO, 2.4 PF, 33.3%, 36.4% 3PT.

People really going on wild swings after a few minutes of play each game. He's only really played about 2 games worth of ball so far.
Those numbers are inflated by that Maccabi game. Not impressed yet. Think he's really pressing and it's showing. The fact you have to go to the per 36 numbers to help look at his production says alot about his lack of "impact" so far. Clarkson looked lost early on last year as well. I'm sure DeAngelo will get it. So far, he looks like a deer in headlights.
The fact I have to look at per 36 is that he's played just 76 minutes in the preseason. That's about 2 games worth, which is what I said above. It's not about searching for "impact"... It's perspective. Put everything he's done together this preseason (good and bad) and it's just two games. This is the sample size and people freak out over a quarter worth of play from last night?
DLO will be ok.

Watching Marcelo play and have an immediate impact will be invaluable to DLO. Besides Marcelo, his present on-court mentors on the roster only is Clarkson - who himself is still learning how to be a PG and is really a SG. As Big Game stated after the game, Marcelo is much like Steve Nash - except not as talented (which is not any great crime).

Hopefully he will quickly grasp the mental aspects and confidence to tell players where they need to be (as Marcelo did last night) and control the pace and flow of the game since he will be having the ball.

As DB stated, he has really only played minutes equal to 2 games. He need reps and PT to be confident. The great thing is that with Randle, Clarkson and Kobe able to bring up the ball - DLO will not have the consistent pressure of initialing the offense
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