Odom was wrongfully accused.

KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

Remember when we were blaming odom for all those turnovers? Kobe has 8 turnovers. Smush has 7 turnovers. It just shows that no one else on the team is capable of holding onto a ball. A turnover also has to depend on whos recieving the ball.
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Neverland Ranch Survivor · Sixth Man Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

smush is an nbdl player making 700k a year, kobe is the reason why this team wins. odom makes 10+ million to score single digit points a night, get abused on defense, and turn the ball over repeatadly. no he isnt being wrongly accused.

MyKRo · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

Gimme a damn break!! Kobe and Smush were the only reason the Lakers were in this game!

Lamar is an overpaid joke.

Hector the Pup · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

Then Odom was also wrongfully accused of being a valuable rebounder as well.

Just get over it and accept NASCAR for who he is.

Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

Oh please...spare us the excuses...Kobe scores and carries this team...Smush earns below 1M. We can't afford Lamar's 9 points and 8 TOs.
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tgf5 · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

WHO FREAKEN CARES ANYWAYS! Kobe tried to trust his teammates, passing and CLANKING CLANK CLANK about 20 shots, I don't even care if Kobe gets ZERO ASSISTS for the rest of the season! THESE NBA Pros can't make a damn open shot!

Freakout · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject:

Car54 · Franchise Player Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 14424

Odoms not over paid Kwame is over paid. I bet if odom played we would have won. the 2nd chance points would have been limited

Supa · Star Player Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2210

They would have lost either way, the Bobcats were really pumped up for this game. They wanted it way more then the Lakers.

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KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

you guys are taking this post the wrong way. Im not blaiming Kobe for anything. Im simply saying maybe you guys are so fast to point out Odom's problems when its actually not his problem at all. If Kobe can get 8 turnovers with this supporting cast then maybe Odom wasnt the problem afterall?
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Chrome Hearts · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject:

Even when Odom doesn't play in a game, he somehow ends up getting part of the blame.
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Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

Jumaine had 31. Lamar barely gets over 20...that's probably why...not saying Lamar should get any blame.
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Chrome Hearts · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject:

Well, it's not like JJ hits 30 every game. The guy averages 8 pts. a game and he happened to have a career high night. It happens.
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PiPisKobesByatch · Star Player Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 8038

WAS ODOM DOUBLE TEAMED IMMEDIATELY THE WAY KOBE WAS TONIGHT?

NO! damn, you just might be as dumb as odom yourself. ALMOST.

magic_bryant · Franchise Player Joined: 16 Oct 2002 Posts: 18179

LO is our best initiator, plain and simple. Without him, we saw what happens to this team. Kobe gets doubled hard and becomes last year's Kobe, able to scre a bunhc of points, but have no real impact due to his teammate's inability to hit jumpers. Kobe will be forced to pass, and nothing will come of those passes.

With LO on the court, Kobe is allowed to shoot, because if he kicks it out to LO, LO can and WILL make something happen.
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I agree with the thrust of the post.

But, let's keep in mind that the Lamar haters seem like they are the worst bong-loaders of all, because their short-term memories are terrible.

Lamar has been initiating all year and only the past 2 weeks has there been ANY issue with his turnovers. All year he's been great with the A/TO ratio.

Even when he got 8 turnovers, guess who got 4 that game? Kobe Bryant.

Even when he got 7 turnovers the game before the 8 turnovers (the start of Lamar's TO funk 2 about 2 weeks ago), guess who got 6 turnovers? Kobe Bryant.

Now, tonight, no Lamar initiating, and Kobe/Smush combine for what? 13+ turnovers?

Lamar is fine. He's been in a funk as far as TO's since that Golden State game, or whatever game it was, but overall, over the course of the season, Lamar has not been a TO problem.

And, as Kobe has said all along, Lamar has freed up the floor for him. Teams have to overplay Lamar too, because if they don't he WILL abuse them. So tonight you saw in the 4th quarter what happens when Lamar is not out there facilitating (not shooting). In the 4th quarter, Lamar should facilitate, and Kobe should shoot.