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ReaListik Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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BennyLava wrote: | Lakers_Jester wrote: | AC Green's V-Card wrote: | Lakers_Jester wrote: | Simmons could play Draymond green role if we get him. His passing is way better.
I'd probably go whiteside/simmons/kd/derozan/dlo |
Just probably, huh? |
Lol yea. Probably go luke walton as hc too |
I know the feels, so many options this is just one iteration. I would probably be ok with this as well if it happened. But lets wait and see what else we can get. |
So many options, very little chance that either Whiteside, DeRozan or Durant come here. I could see Luke Walton be the head coach though. _________________ "We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview |
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gorila Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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If Randle and Simmons can't play together then trade randle obviously, from what I've seen his iq is miles ahead of randles |
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Lakers_Jester Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly I wanna see simmons randle tandem as a frontcourt. There's probably only a handful of centers who would legitimately make simmons pay at the 5. Cousins, dwight (maybe)....I think that's it? Porzingis? Strong bully post game is a lost art. |
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DoubleClutch Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers_Jester wrote: | Honestly I wanna see simmons randle tandem as a frontcourt. There's probably only a handful of centers who would legitimately make simmons pay at the 5. Cousins, dwight (maybe)....I think that's it? Porzingis? Strong bully post game is a lost art. |
You could probably put Randle on those guys. He's not a shot blocker, but he's strong as a bull and has great feet. He should be able to guard the post pretty well once he gets more experience. Besides, I think Simmons is a better help defender than a man defender at this point and vice versa for Randle. _________________ “This goes far beyond paychecks” |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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So if we lose the pick this year does that mean Orlando gets our top 5 lotto protected pick also? |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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If Randle can develop a consistent 3point shot at a 33-35% clip, Simmons/Randle could work. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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AC Green's V-Card Star Player
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I agree! I think it's all about the shooting coach! |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | So if we lose the pick this year does that mean Orlando gets our top 5 lotto protected pick also? |
Scenario:
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LA pick falls out of the Top 3 in the upcoming Lottery Drawing and the pick goes to Philly.
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Thus the obligation to Philly is fulfilled and the clock starts on the obligation to Orlando.
Lakers will retain their 2017 pick due to the Ted Stepien Rule.
87. How are draft picks handled in trades? What is the Ted Stepien rule?
Quote: | If a team trades two future first round picks and the first pick is protected, then the first pick would be conveyed in the first draft in which it is not a protected pick (as described above), and the second pick would be conveyed in the first allowable draft (per the Stepien rule) in which that pick is not protected (i.e., two years after the first pick). |
The pick obligation to Orlando:
Future Traded Pick Details
Quote: | 2018 first round draft pick to Orlando
If at least two years after the L.A. Lakers conveyed a 1st round pick to Philadelphia, then the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Orlando protected for selections 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019; if the L.A. Lakers have not conveyed a 1st round pick to Philadelphia by 2017, then the L.A. Lakers will instead convey their 2017 2nd round pick and 2018 2nd round pick to Orlando [L.A. Lakers-Orlando, 8/10/2012] |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ben Simmons
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Kobe!!! 1h
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bonkers Star Player
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Quote: | Ben Simmons @BenSimmons25 10h10 hours ago
Big homie is in town @Dloading 💯 |
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D'Angelo Russell @Dloading 10h10 hours ago
@BenSimmons25 👊🏾👊🏾 |
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Megaton Retired Number
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:17 am Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: |
I agree! I think it's all about the shooting coach! |
And we have a very good one. |
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AC Green's V-Card Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: |
I agree! I think it's all about the shooting coach! |
And we have a very good one. |
Crazy that Randle, Russell, and (if we get him) Simmons are all lefty shooters who would be learning from another lefty in Tracy Murray. |
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nolookpass Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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After reading that Simmons and Russell were teammates in high school, it all made a lot of sense all of a sudden. Scott is not mismanaging the youngsters and the team in general due to incompetence but is following the FO 's plan. It might just be that the Lakers have already scouted Simmons enough to have come to the conclusion that he is a unique talent that would fit in perfectly alongside Russell (and the other young guys for that matter).
I very much like the concept of tanking for a glorious team like the Lakers, but after what has been done to the Lakers by Stern, I just can understand that they want to get some payback soon.
Still, I would prefer them trying to win 30 games this year. Maybe Simmons can do a Kobe on draft night and still fall in our lap. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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nolookpass wrote: | After reading that Simmons and Russell were teammates in high school, it all made a lot of sense all of a sudden. Scott is not mismanaging the youngsters and the team in general due to incompetence but is following the FO 's plan. It might just be that the Lakers have already scouted Simmons enough to have come to the conclusion that he is a unique talent that would fit in perfectly alongside Russell (and the other young guys for that matter).
I very much like the concept of tanking for a glorious team like the Lakers, but after what has been done to the Lakers by Stern, I just can understand that they want to get some payback soon.
Still, I would prefer them trying to win 30 games this year. Maybe Simmons can do a Kobe on draft night and still fall in our lap. |
Sorry guys, in the next to last paragraph it is supposed to say I very much dislike the concept of tanking. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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nolookpass wrote: | nolookpass wrote: | After reading that Simmons and Russell were teammates in high school, it all made a lot of sense all of a sudden. Scott is not mismanaging the youngsters and the team in general due to incompetence but is following the FO 's plan. It might just be that the Lakers have already scouted Simmons enough to have come to the conclusion that he is a unique talent that would fit in perfectly alongside Russell (and the other young guys for that matter).
I very much like the concept of tanking for a glorious team like the Lakers, but after what has been done to the Lakers by Stern, I just can understand that they want to get some payback soon.
Still, I would prefer them trying to win 30 games this year. Maybe Simmons can do a Kobe on draft night and still fall in our lap. |
Sorry guys, in the next to last paragraph it is supposed to say I very much dislike the concept of tanking. |
You can't be serious about this. So was it Scott's plan to be a terrible coach on the Cavs too, so that he would join the Los Angeles Tankers and that he'd purposely hold back his coaching acumen so the Tankers could have at best, a 60% ish shot at getting Simmons? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hoping to have a 50% chance at your pick is no plan _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry and no disrespect, but Simmons will never be in the Green role. Green is one of the best and most versatile defenders in the league. He can do anything on the offensive end. He can rebound and assist. He is a superstar. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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^ lol! Superstar? No. Not even close. Solid to great role player though.
Simmons will be tasked with carrying a team, Green's not THAT good to be asked to do that. Simmons in his prime if he reaches his potential would be the kind of guy Draymond hates having to defend, not the other way around. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ben Simmons Brother at the prospect of his brother being a Laker: "I Think he'll enjoy that."
"He's going to be happy and appreciative of anywhere he goes," Liam Simmons said. "The Lakers franchise is a juggernaut. Along with that comes the responsibility of carrying the franchise's name and the legends before him. I think he'll enjoy that"
Can Ben Simmons do that?
"That's up to the coaching staff and franchise," Liam Simmons said. "He'll be as prepared as he can be as an individual."
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/2/5/10921474/la-lakers-ben-simmons-nba-draft-2016
Ben in his Lakers jersey at the game https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaatO54UcAABDjf.jpg
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CamReddish Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Simmons is his brothers son? |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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fixed it lol |
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CamReddish Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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lol |
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