Porzingis struggles a bit against length, strangely enough.
Is he missing jumpers shooting over them? I'm leaning towards thinking his jumper is indeed disruptable/ him being 7'3 isn't the end all be all in shooting over guys
I feel like it speeds him up a bit. His shooting motion speeds up, and when he attacks a close out he kind of flips the shot up there over length rather than take a controlled shot. He doesn't need to do either of those things.
Injuries are a concern with Porzingis as well. He has a slight frame.
It's his height more than his slight frame. The last 3 big men above 7'3" and above that played more than spot minutes all had major foot issues. Yao, Big Z and Rik Smits all had nagging issues that basically derailed them.
Ja can't buy a win. Played solid tonight again 19 points, 4 blocks. His team had the lead almost all game until the last few min. Hinkie is happy deep down, I'm sure.
Porzingis finishes the night with a poor shooting percentage - but with 6 blocks, 8 points, 8 boards, 3 assists.
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jonnybravo wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Injuries are a concern with Porzingis as well. He has a slight frame.
It's his height more than his slight frame. The last 3 big men above 7'3" and above that played more than spot minutes all had major foot issues. Yao, Big Z and Rik Smits all had nagging issues that basically derailed them.
Yep that's a legit fear.
One thing in his favor is that he is light on his feet and at first glance doesn't look awkward or uncomfortable with his body. You always got the sense that some of those big guys - and Bynum was another guy - that they were sometimes moving like in a way their body didn't look right. With this guy he moves like a 7'3 SF. Now that doesn't mean he'll avoid serious injuries, but he doesn't look like Yao 2.0 or Big Z in terms of how he moves on the court.
Back to Jahil one second, what must it feel like to be on a 0-16 team. I can't imagine what it's like, the losing has to get to you at some point.
Injuries are a concern with Porzingis as well. He has a slight frame.
It's his height more than his slight frame. The last 3 big men above 7'3" and above that played more than spot minutes all had major foot issues. Yao, Big Z and Rik Smits all had nagging issues that basically derailed them.
Yep that's a legit fear.
One thing in his favor is that he is light on his feet and at first glance doesn't look awkward or uncomfortable with his body. You always got the sense that some of those big guys - and Bynum was another guy - that they were sometimes moving like in a way their body didn't look right. With this guy he moves like a 7'3 SF. Now that doesn't mean he'll avoid serious injuries, but he doesn't look like Yao 2.0 or Big Z in terms of how he moves on the court.
Also a situation where he's carrying A LOT less weight than those guys were, with the exception of Smits. Physically, from strictly a "how he moves" standpoint, he's most reminiscent of Ralph Sampson, who also had injury issues. A giant and thin, while still coordinated.
Another reason why Yao was starting to get injured was playing in international games basically every summer. I remember reading that the Chinese Communist Party wanted Yao to play those games for nationalist reasons, so he never got a basketball break. He was relatively healthy for his 1st 3 years in the league and then started seriously breaking down in his 4th year.
I now understand why Mark Cuban doesn't like NBA players playing in these international games. Porzingis has said he wants to play for Latvia in international games and represent his country in the Olympics. He may just have a Yao-like career if he doesn't get the necessary rest.
Porzingis struggles a bit against length, strangely enough.
Is he missing jumpers shooting over them? I'm leaning towards thinking his jumper is indeed disruptable/ him being 7'3 isn't the end all be all in shooting over guys
I feel like it speeds him up a bit. His shooting motion speeds up, and when he attacks a close out he kind of flips the shot up there over length rather than take a controlled shot. He doesn't need to do either of those things.
Ya I think I've seen that. wana take a closer look at his contested Js. He did get off cleanly another fadeaway post shot today - missed it. I wonder what his go-to shot is guna be , or if he'll ever even attempt to have one
Injuries are a concern with Porzingis as well. He has a slight frame.
It's his height more than his slight frame. The last 3 big men above 7'3" and above that played more than spot minutes all had major foot issues. Yao, Big Z and Rik Smits all had nagging issues that basically derailed them.
Yep that's a legit fear.
One thing in his favor is that he is light on his feet and at first glance doesn't look awkward or uncomfortable with his body. You always got the sense that some of those big guys - and Bynum was another guy - that they were sometimes moving like in a way their body didn't look right. With this guy he moves like a 7'3 SF. Now that doesn't mean he'll avoid serious injuries, but he doesn't look like Yao 2.0 or Big Z in terms of how he moves on the court.
Also a situation where he's carrying A LOT less weight than those guys were, with the exception of Smits. Physically, from strictly a "how he moves" standpoint, he's most reminiscent of Ralph Sampson, who also had injury issues. A giant and thin, while still coordinated.
True, true. I was going to mention Sampson but his knee injury happened in his 5th year. We didn't really see how his feet would have held up over the long haul since his knee injury basically changed his career trajectory.
The smartest guy in this is Porzingis, who apparently knew how awful the Sixers organization is and refused to work out for them.
Okafor is stuck in that mess, it's eating away at him, and he's acted completely and utterly unprofessional. I know he's 19, and lord knows if you told me at 19 some of the things that fan was probably saying to JO, I'd throw a punch. But, Okafor's a pro now. He can't do it. A few games suspension is what he'll get, rightfully.
Man one thing I gotta give to Riley/Miami they know how to pick up quality players either with drafting or scouting and signing undrafted players.
Winslow was a good choice at 10, not a star, but quality 2-way guy.
But more than that - Whiteside and then Tyler Johnson as well.
That's 3 longterm assets gotten with using just 1 #10 pick. And best part is they fit them in to their game plan on the court. That's where someone like Pat Riley really helps all the way down. Kudos to them, they really know what the heck they are doing.
Man one thing I gotta give to Riley/Miami they know how to pick up quality players either with drafting or scouting and signing undrafted players.
Winslow was a good choice at 10, not a star, but quality 2-way guy.
But more than that - Whiteside and then Tyler Johnson as well.
That's 3 longterm assets gotten with using just 1 #10 pick. And best part is they fit them in to their game plan on the court. That's where someone like Pat Riley really helps all the way down. Kudos to them, they really know what the heck they are doing.
I had Winslow in the top 5 so falling to 10 was a no brainer for them. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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The smartest guy in this is Porzingis, who apparently knew how awful the Sixers organization is and refused to work out for them.
Okafor is stuck in that mess, it's eating away at him, and he's acted completely and utterly unprofessional. I know he's 19, and lord knows if you told me at 19 some of the things that fan was probably saying to JO, I'd throw a punch. But, Okafor's a pro now. He can't do it. A few games suspension is what he'll get, rightfully.
Jahlil refused to work out for them too, but they took him anyway.
For all the talk that Okafor doesn't defend well here's his OPP FG% when he's out there around the basket area.
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Defensive Impact: Statistics measuring the impact a player has on defense, including blocks, steals and protecting the rim, which measures the opponent's field goal percentage at the rim while it is being defended. Rim protection is defined as the defender being within five feet of the basket and within five feet of the offensive player attempting the shot.
Opponent FG percentage (The lower the better)
Okafor 43%
Towns 45%
Porzingis 45.9%
WCS 48.1%
His main problem seems to be getting out there and helping, then recovering. Sort of like Towns/Porzingis/WCS have potential to do. A team needs to design a scheme where he isn't moving too much out there, because in terms of playing his man close to the basket and defending the basket/rim, his D is solid. I recall his match up with Towns, he did really well on D. The issue will be S/R D and if you can draw Okafor out.
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Here's overall defensive FG percentage of man D (Anywhere on court - perimeter guys included in this as well)
Towns 37.2% (Awesome)
Winslow 39.4% (man D hype justified and proven)
Porzingis 42.4%
Okafor 43.7%
Mudiay 44%
WCS 45.9%
Russell 48.9%
For example comparison sake - someone like Greg Monroe a notoriously good O player but bad D guy is at 54% for the season. The stats are really surprising to me. Russell's man D looked good at first glance, but his man D has been pretty poor statistically.
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Played solid tonight again 19 points, 4 blocks. His team had the lead almost all game until the last few min. Hinkie is happy deep down, I'm sure.
