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 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: OFFICIAL FRONT OFFICE DISCUSSION & P&M THREAD |
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This thread is for discussions about the Lakers front office.
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Hiring Scott wasn't Mitch or Jim's idea, just saying. And Kobe's contract has little bearing on how this season is going, despite being a beacon out there for fans to rail against.
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Jeannie hired Byron Scott. She makes the basketball decisions. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL FRONT OFFICE DISCUSSION & P&M THREAD |
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| 32 wrote: | | If you don't like Byron Scott then blame the front office for hiring him. |
Glad someone with more LG cred than myself is saying this.
You can't have one without the other.
If you think Scott is unqualified for our head coaching position, that means our FO made a mistake hiring him.
If we have to hire a 4th coach in 6 years, that means we have a problem...upstairs.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:42 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL FRONT OFFICE DISCUSSION & P&M THREAD |
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| kikanga wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | If you don't like Byron Scott then blame the front office for hiring him. |
Glad someone with more LG cred than myself is saying this.
You can't have one without the other.
If you think Scott is unqualified for our head coaching position, that means our FO made a mistake hiring him.
If we have to hire a 4th coach in 6 years, that means we have a problem...upstairs. |
Yep. They can all share the blame for this disaster. Every single one of them; they can also share the blame for M. Brown. and M. D'Antoni. Now, we're sitting with Byron getting blown out in games by teams who might not even make the PO's this year.
It'll be interesting to see how long they put up with this mess they created... |
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| I blame the front office for not trading some of these chuckers for guys who pass, cut, defend, set screens, rebound, hit open shots. I also blame the front office and coaching for not benching Kobe. You want to win some games and develop some chemistry or do you want to sacrifice another year for his ego? |
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The only way Scott saves his job this year is if he puts Kobe in a 6th man role, which will show all parties he's not blind to the weaknesses of the team. Let Randle/DLO/Clarkson learn the hard way and let Kobe go up against 2nd line units instead of the top line defenders (Kahwai for example is coming up).
I doubt he does it. Will blame the young players and so on.
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Jeannie hired Byron Scott. She makes the basketball decisions. |
Where did you get that? |
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Nnamdi21
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| Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| laker4life wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Jeannie hired Byron Scott. She makes the basketball decisions. |
Where did you get that? |
From this board. Jeannie was the person who chose Byron to be the coach right. Sounds like a basketball decision to me. |
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| Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:06 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL FRONT OFFICE DISCUSSION & P&M THREAD |
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| lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | If you don't like Byron Scott then blame the front office for hiring him. |
Glad someone with more LG cred than myself is saying this.
You can't have one without the other.
If you think Scott is unqualified for our head coaching position, that means our FO made a mistake hiring him.
If we have to hire a 4th coach in 6 years, that means we have a problem...upstairs. |
Yep. They can all share the blame for this disaster. Every single one of them; they can also share the blame for M. Brown. and M. D'Antoni. Now, we're sitting with Byron getting blown out in games by teams who might not even make the PO's this year.
It'll be interesting to see how long they put up with this mess they created... |
Not Mitch, I know he wanted Adelman. Ultimately its rests on Jimbo since he's the "head" of basketball operations and his stupid hiring and firing has lead to some lotto coach leading a franchise that use to be winners. Can't build a roster with no long term view other than hiring a bunch of mercenaries every year "hoping" to land a big name FA. Its borderline fantasy at this stage  |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager  |
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How come Jeanie never gets criticism in the media and even on various Laker boards?
It's always Jim getting (bleep) on |
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| rybee wrote: | How come Jeanie never gets criticism in the media and even on various Laker boards?
It's always Jim getting (bleep) on |
Because Jeanie runs the business side of the franchise. The problem with the team hasn't been making $$$ it's been winning games. That falls directly on Jim and Mitch. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
There are actually people here who know those things. You would be wise to listen, but I realize that is asking too much.
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
U obviously haven't been paying attention to what transpired toward the end of MDA days. Jeannie and magic went on a campaign for getting rid of MDA the entire 2013-2014 season. The fact Jim and Mitch interviewed Scott 3 times when he was the only candidate also spoke volume, clearly he was not their choice, but Jeannie buss who handles the business side only cares about public perception, she wants a familiar face with laker tie as the next coach and Scott was the obvious choice |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
There are actually people here who know those things. You would be wise to listen, but I realize that is asking too much. |
Show me evidence that these people know things. Anyone on the internet can claim anything but how about some actual proof. According to Jim and Jeanie their positions are split with Jim being in charge of basketball and Jeanie in charge of business. |
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| Management, consisting of Jeanie, Jim and Mitch as the department heads have has failed this franchise since 2010. Kobe's horrible contract was the icing on the cake. What good move have them done since the Pau trade? NONE! Randle could be their best move since but honestly he fell into their laps at #7 |
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| rybee wrote: | How come Jeanie never gets criticism in the media and even on various Laker boards?
It's always Jim getting (bleep) on |
Because she is a woman and most perceive that she is not part of the decision making process. Even when she comes out and says that she approves all decisions, people ignore it. It was Jeannie who wanted a Showtime-friendly head coach to calm the waters after the last couple of seasons. It was Jeannie who wanted to extend Kobe (and I have no problem with that) and would do so again. Despite Mitch and Jim putting off hiring Byron with interview after interview hoping that another candidate would come forward, they made the Showtime-friendly hire. And that seemed to be a good strategy PR wise, there has been silence from some of the most recent detractors. Though things haven't changed on the court.
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
U obviously haven't been paying attention to what transpired toward the end of MDA days. Jeannie and magic went on a campaign for getting rid of MDA the entire 2013-2014 season. The fact Jim and Mitch interviewed Scott 3 times when he was the only candidate also spoke volume, clearly he was not their choice, but Jeannie buss who handles the business side only cares about public perception, she wants a familiar face with laker tie as the next coach and Scott was the obvious choice |
Evidence for this theory? You're going off of what certain LG members have said on here because those people shills for Jim |
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
There are actually people here who know those things. You would be wise to listen, but I realize that is asking too much. |
Show me evidence that these people know things. Anyone on the internet can claim anything but how about some actual proof. According to Jim and Jeanie their positions are split with Jim being in charge of basketball and Jeanie in charge of business. |
People have posted things here that came to pass, you just need to pay attention. And Jeannie has been quite clear that she is in charge, not Jim. Again, you just need to pay attention.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
There are actually people here who know those things. You would be wise to listen, but I realize that is asking too much. |
Show me evidence that these people know things. Anyone on the internet can claim anything but how about some actual proof. According to Jim and Jeanie their positions are split with Jim being in charge of basketball and Jeanie in charge of business. |
People have posted things here that came to pass, you just need to pay attention. And Jeannie has been quite clear that she is in charge, not Jim. Again, you just need to pay attention. |
Again you have provided nothing. No evidence at all. There have been a couple posters here on LG that have said things before it happened(RIP Luca) but none of them are the ones defending Jim Buss hard and heavy in every thread about the FO. |
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| laker4life wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Jeannie hired Byron Scott. She makes the basketball decisions. |
Where did you get that? |
Jeanie handles marketing and promotion. Jim Buss hires the coaches, along with input from Mitch Kupchak.
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| PhoenixForce wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | PhoenixForce wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | | Jim Buss and Mitch hired Byron. they were the ones that interviewed him 232342300 times. took alot of convincing i guess |
Why would the general manager have any say in a coaching hire? |
Yeah according to some blind Jim/Mitch defenders on here all the bad basketball decisions have been made by Jeanie not the actual GM or Basketball operations manager |
U obviously haven't been paying attention to what transpired toward the end of MDA days. Jeannie and magic went on a campaign for getting rid of MDA the entire 2013-2014 season. The fact Jim and Mitch interviewed Scott 3 times when he was the only candidate also spoke volume, clearly he was not their choice, but Jeannie buss who handles the business side only cares about public perception, she wants a familiar face with laker tie as the next coach and Scott was the obvious choice |
Evidence for this theory? You're going off of what certain LG members have said on here because those people shills for Jim |
You're entitled to your opinions, but when you start getting to the "people who say things that disagree with me are shills for Jim", you're getting across a line you don't want to be across... |
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