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laker4life Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:15 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | What is sad is that some would rather lose and get rid of Jim than win. |
I do not think that fans rather lose so that we can get rid of Jim Buss.
That is ridiculous.
Fans simply want to win. WE do not care who is making the decision.
We just want to win. |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 15403 Location: Oak Park
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Kinda hard to reload when you've traded all your draft picks away.
It's going to take at least 5 years. Not from 2 years ago. From when kobe retires. If they make all the right moves. |
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laker4life Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: |
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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | Kinda hard to reload when you've traded all your draft picks away.
It's going to take at least 5 years. Not from 2 years ago. From when kobe retires. If they make all the right moves. |
You are probably right.
It is going to take a long time unless we get a free agent superstar.
We simply need a top 10 player or at least three perennial all star type players to compete.
Now, we have no perennial all star player. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144462 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: |
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laker4life wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | What is sad is that some would rather lose and get rid of Jim than win. |
I do not think that fans rather lose so that we can get rid of Jim Buss.
That is ridiculous.
Fans simply want to win. WE do not care who is making the decision.
We just want to win. |
Posts here say otherwise. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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The Logo Star Player
Joined: 25 Jul 2013 Posts: 9577 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Laker FO is gonna have to address this Byron thing on social media in some manner. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | Kinda hard to reload when you've traded all your draft picks away.
It's going to take at least 5 years. Not from 2 years ago. From when kobe retires. If they make all the right moves. |
You're 3 years too late with this post.
Da hell? |
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OCWA Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Imagine how many they would have won if Pau had gotten with the program instead of pouting. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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OCWA wrote: | Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
A fair question would also be why did Gasol average 8.6 and 9.7 rebounds in his last two seasons with the Lakers, then 11.8 and 10.9 in Chicago? Or why he averaged 1.2 and 1.5 blocks, then went on to average 1.9 and 2.1 in Chicago? The truth is that Gasol was pouting, he wasn't giving his full effort in his final years in Los Angeles. He gave the team some great years, but his effort waned in his final years with the club. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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OCWA wrote: | Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
Pau is also to blame for not giving a (bleep) in his final two years. But whatever it'll be fun watching him flame out again in the postseason, as is usually the case with him (Lakers career not withstanding). |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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emberassing yuck |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | OCWA wrote: | Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
A fair question would also be why did Gasol average 8.6 and 9.7 rebounds in his last two seasons with the Lakers, then 11.8 and 10.9 in Chicago? Or why he averaged 1.2 and 1.5 blocks, then went on to average 1.9 and 2.1 in Chicago? The truth is that Gasol was pouting, he wasn't giving his full effort in his final years in Los Angeles. He gave the team some great years, but his effort waned in his final years with the club. |
It was like a marriage that lasted about one year too long. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | J.C. Smith wrote: | OCWA wrote: | Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
A fair question would also be why did Gasol average 8.6 and 9.7 rebounds in his last two seasons with the Lakers, then 11.8 and 10.9 in Chicago? Or why he averaged 1.2 and 1.5 blocks, then went on to average 1.9 and 2.1 in Chicago? The truth is that Gasol was pouting, he wasn't giving his full effort in his final years in Los Angeles. He gave the team some great years, but his effort waned in his final years with the club. |
It was like a marriage that lasted about one year too long. |
Pretty much.
Lakers were right to trade Pau when we should have got CP3. But then we rejected a trade that would have gotten Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, and another player I'm forgetting at the moment for him.
Talk about missed opportunity. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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That trade doesn't do much for me, I would never regret that. The great thing about the CP3 trade was that we had a big enough TPE to sign David West. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Letting this continue is negligence. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21075 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've been supportive of the FO for quite a few years, but if they keep Scott past this summer at the latest I'd be disgusted, and I'd want to know who argued to keep such an abysmal franchise killing coach.
Not that I expect that outcome. I think BScott's gone, and I doubt he'll ever coach again in the NBA. Byron must go, and if the FO had a wee bit more courage he'd be gone already. |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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If the fo can hit some home runs in the draft and fa next year ill be happy. But if they get derozen that would be pretty sick. |
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dood23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Remember when Jerry West took a direct shot at our coaching staff.
lol
This is the darkest timeline. _________________ "There's only 2 dudes better than me, and I'm BOTH OF THEM." |
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Snipes Star Player
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 6026
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | J.C. Smith wrote: | OCWA wrote: | Pau schooling/saying hello to Jim Buss and MDA. Watching Pau it's still hard to believe that the FO hired D'Antoni for a team with near prime Gasol and Howard. Also hard to believe MDA could only manage 40 wins with Gasol, Kobe and Howard, and attempt to marginalize the genius of Gasol. |
A fair question would also be why did Gasol average 8.6 and 9.7 rebounds in his last two seasons with the Lakers, then 11.8 and 10.9 in Chicago? Or why he averaged 1.2 and 1.5 blocks, then went on to average 1.9 and 2.1 in Chicago? The truth is that Gasol was pouting, he wasn't giving his full effort in his final years in Los Angeles. He gave the team some great years, but his effort waned in his final years with the club. |
It was like a marriage that lasted about one year too long. |
Pretty much.
Lakers were right to trade Pau when we should have got CP3. But then we rejected a trade that would have gotten Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, and another player I'm forgetting at the moment for him.
Talk about missed opportunity. |
Only way to prolong our window at that point in time was to get Cp3. It was a bold move and I was sad because I wanted the core to stay the same, but the FO was proactive and got it done. And then Pau decided to get payback and he played like a glorified Hakeem Warrick the next two years. |
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Yumyumcha Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: |
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dood23 wrote: | Remember when Jerry West took a direct shot at our coaching staff.
lol
This is the darkest timeline. |
Naa, the darkest timeline would be if the Lakers drafted Mudiay and he plays like a bust but the ping pong ball pushes the draft choice to Philly. Meanwhile, more photos of Jeannie comes out from her playboy shoot that weren't published the first time and Kevin Durant signs with New York. But Jeff Winger is still a one armed lawyer. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:21 am Post subject: |
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This is such FO negligence. Scott is poisoning the mind of DLO, it's so blatant and obvious. I guarantee you we will see an unleashed DLO at the rooks all-star game.
If they want to tank, then fire Scott, let an assistant take over and let the young guys lose the same games but gain valuable experience, i.e., close out games. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I hate byron like everybody else but dlo needs to take some ownership for his bs lazy attitude play aswell
Just loafing around with the ball yesterday and getting turnovers like getting buckets |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | I hate byron like everybody else but dlo needs to take some ownership for his bs lazy attitude play aswell
Just loafing around with the ball yesterday and getting turnovers like getting buckets |
That's fine. But he isn't the core of the problem with this team. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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av3773 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Well hopefully the FO and BS can come together and make the second half of the season more practical. For me I'd like to see a starting lineup of
C - Nance or Black
PF - Randle or Nance
SF - KB
SG - JC
PG - D Lo
Kobe would be the first substitution and Brown would be that sub for the remainder of the season even if they are stinking it up I would like to see those players see the majority of minutes, and specifically minutes together as a unit. To give ourselves the best shot in FA to land players who actually might matter we have to show we have young guys who have talent and already have some form of chemistry. Scott isn't winning with his Vet heavy lineups so it doesn't matter in terms of W and L's so we might as well invest the time in the young guys who are going to be here |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:20 am Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | Letting this continue is negligence. |
Yes, Dr. Jerry Buss was a commoner who worked his tail off to build the dynasty that he did, including the Lakers. He introduced cheerleaders to the game and other non-playing gimmicks for one reason, to make the experience better for the fans. His kids have no connection to the common man or fan, the circles they run in are the same circles that enable drug addiction and other vices. They have no idea how the common fan feels, they have Magic and others telling them that Byron is the man, and that is what they believe. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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