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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject:

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OBSERVER EXCLUSIVE: The @hornets have come to agreement with coach Steve Clifford on a multi-year extension. Story to follow.


One good coach off the table.


fiendish, who do you want?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject:

If clippers keeps losing we may have a shot at doc rivers
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:23 pm    Post subject:

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If clippers keeps losing we may have a shot at doc rivers


Pass, he's overrated from his time with Thibedau's great defense. Since Thibs left him, Doc has been pretty bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:24 pm    Post subject:

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If clippers keeps losing we may have a shot at doc rivers


Pass, he's overrated from his time with Thibedau's great defense. Since Thibs left him, Doc has been pretty bad.


plus he's a celtic... a CELTIC
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject:

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Luke is not this amazing coach. He got a great group of players who just won a ring together. Heck i bet even Byron's none-coachin can' make them lose


Yep. Just like Mark Jackson lead them to all-time high win streaks two years ago. Piece of cake.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject:

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Luke is not this amazing coach. He got a great group of players who just won a ring together. Heck i bet even Byron's none-coachin can' make them lose


Yep. Just like Mark Jackson lead them to all-time high win streaks two years ago. Piece of cake.


Scott could easily help them lose if he was adamant about running middle school set plays.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:59 am    Post subject:

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Luke is not this amazing coach. He got a great group of players who just won a ring together. Heck i bet even Byron's none-coachin can' make them lose


I made the point a few weeks back about the difficulty in objectively judging Luke's coaching ability with their roster. I maintained then, and now, that it's their roster everyone is fawning over, not necessarily the coach.

Doesn't mean I don't want him, or think that he'd be a great coach, but if you ask me what I want, I'd take their roster first, coach second.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject:

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Luke is not this amazing coach. He got a great group of players who just won a ring together. Heck i bet even Byron's none-coachin can' make them lose


I made the point a few weeks back about the difficulty in objectively judging Luke's coaching ability with their roster. I maintained then, and now, that it's their roster everyone is fawning over, not necessarily the coach.

Doesn't mean I don't want him, or think that he'd be a great coach, but if you ask me what I want, I'd take their roster first, coach second.


Of course, anyone would. But this is the same cast of characters that Mark Jackson led to a 51-31 record last year. Kerr led them to 67-15 and 16-5 in the playoffs, and now they're 16-0 to start the year. These are NOT normal year-to-year progressions. Kerr & his staff have taught the same group of guys to play an absolutely devastating style of basketball.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject:

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Luke is not this amazing coach. He got a great group of players who just won a ring together. Heck i bet even Byron's none-coachin can' make them lose


I made the point a few weeks back about the difficulty in objectively judging Luke's coaching ability with their roster. I maintained then, and now, that it's their roster everyone is fawning over, not necessarily the coach.

Doesn't mean I don't want him, or think that he'd be a great coach, but if you ask me what I want, I'd take their roster first, coach second.


If this is the case how do you know he's a good or bad coach?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:39 am    Post subject:

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If you're going to make a case for Becky Hammon then make a basketball argument.

So far, her resume consists of: Former WNBA player, winning coach of 2015 SPL, 1 yr experience as assistant coach on Spurs bench.

She's not even the lead assistant. If there are Spurs assistant coaches we should consider it would be Ettore Messina or Ime Udoka.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:41 am    Post subject:

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OBSERVER EXCLUSIVE: The @hornets have come to agreement with coach Steve Clifford on a multi-year extension. Story to follow.


One good coach off the table.


fiendish, who do you want?


Luke or Messina. I'd be good with any viable candidate from the Spurs tree, including Hammon. Atkinson sounds intriguing but I don't know much about him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:50 am    Post subject:

Ok so luke gets no credit even though he's doing something mark jackson couldn't do and as of right now kerr hasn't done (best Start in nba history).

Same dumb argument people use about phil jax that he's not a good coach he just had superior talent, which we all know is absurd.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:26 am    Post subject:

For anyone saying Luke has it ieasy up in GSW, Mitch disagrees with you. Look up the article from tuesday
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:40 am    Post subject:

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I want Thibs he will hold players accountable. He's a defensive genius, offense comes and goes.


and by 30yrs old they will all be ran into the ground
Its a young core they can get heavy minutes. Thibs make bad defenders average defenders. I'm just not sold on Luke like I was with Gentry. Defense travels and thats what this team needs.


So then we can look forward to Russell and Randle being washed up at 26 like Rose? Nice.


rose is only 1 player, out of how many players thibs coached? doesn't seem as detrimental to players health as you and some are making him out to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:14 am    Post subject:

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Ok so luke gets no credit even though he's doing something mark jackson couldn't do and as of right now kerr hasn't done (best Start in nba history).

Same dumb argument people use about phil jax that he's not a good coach he just had superior talent, which we all know is absurd.


Exactly. And we have seen first hand how much coaching matters no matter the talent.

Apparently Pop according to the other's logic is a mediocre coach that has only won as long as he had the greatest PF of all time on his side as well as David Robinson, Manu, Parker, Leonard, depth across the stratosphere, etc.

People that still think Luke has nothing to do or any impact with the Warriors being undefeated right now is laughable at this point. As well as being a blind hater.

....oh snap. Luke Walton already has haters! He's moving up in the world now!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject:

I have this waking dread we're going to hire Scott Brooks next season.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject:

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I have this waking dread we're going to hire Scott Brooks next season.


With his player ties with Houston, he has a better chance of being the coach of the Rockets than here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:04 pm    Post subject:

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I have this waking dread we're going to hire Scott Brooks next season.


As much as we discuss Luke, Atkinson et al as potential head coaches, I fear that our interview list will be comprised of 'exprienced' coaches like the Mike Dunleavys and Scott Brooks of the world.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:43 pm    Post subject:

AS intriguing as Luke is, i really do think our next coach has to have a great developmental background. Byron is uh teaching the kids lots of things, how to play in today's NBA is not one of them. The next cat to helm the big chair needs to "Coach'em up" from the clay they are now into productive NBA players. I don't know if Luke can be that guy, not yet anyway. Keeping a machine humming certainly takes skill, but building a machine from the ground up is a whole 'nother can-o-worms.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:05 pm    Post subject:

head coach: luke walton

assistant coaches: world peace, madsen, robert horry

Bball ops consultant: kobe bryant
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject:

The lakers dont have big enough balls to hire mesina

Same reason they didnt even interview snyder, clifford & mesina

This FO lacks imagination and thinking outside the box

So tired of BS like: this is what our dad wanted
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject:

I think we should start talking about building Luke's assistant coaching staff. He's going o need a strong support system.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject:

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The lakers dont have big enough balls to hire mesina

Same reason they didnt even interview snyder, clifford & mesina

This FO lacks imagination and thinking outside the box

So tired of BS like: this is what our dad wanted


We've had all those guys in our organization too.

Personally, I thought Snyder was a great option. Developing young talent with a defensive emphasis.

He was the one the got away-- to be cliche.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:47 pm    Post subject:

[quote="Lakers_Jester"]head coach: luke walton

assistant coaches: world peace, madsen, robert horry

Bball ops consultant: kobe bryant[/quote


Put also Steve Nash as a assistant coach and I am all in.
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