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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | curry is better than lbj has ever been.
better than mj? sheesh.
curry is this era's ray allen/reggie miller. that is it for now.
i don't get all this "no one has ever done this before" kind of talk. the only thing that hasn't been "done before" is this league wide acceptance of chucking a lot of threes, and a league full of dynamite three point shooters. we've never seen that the way we have the last 2 years, maybe 5 years max.
you didn't see it before because players were not allowed (almost part of nba culture, and bball culture in general) to shoot a lot of threes. so teams weren't full of three point shooters like now. usually, a team had a designated three guy or maybe a couple of them.
curry is the first superstar who is a three point specialist, yet still considered to be one of the best players in the league. you had reggie and ray before, but there was always the thought that they were specialists for the most part, but not like a top 3 overall player in the league.
and before them, you had guys like hodges who were considered role players. however, today, hodges would be a starter and most likely an all star. |
Lebron is still better than Curry, he is carrying a franchise while Curry is one of several top players. Curry is a great player, but if I were building a team to win today I would pick the better overall player (scoring, assisting, rebounding, defense) and that is Lebron.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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He's been incredible but I don't like these next best coronations too early. Remember when deron Williams was the best then cp3, then Westbrook?
Last year eyebrow was the biggest thing since sliced bread.
Curry is AMAZING and the league is doing to lebron, what it's done to Kobe, mj, and everyone else. Been there, don't that so they'll look at what's new.
Promote it big and claim they're the best.
Amazing, amazing player, but I'll wait a bit longer and see how it holds up. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| way too early..... it's all about longevity, let's see if he could keep this up for another 7 or so years. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Curry naysayers don't really doubt his ability. It's more along the lines of "go out there and actually do it." The potential is there, but it's just not realized yet.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nevitt_smrek wrote: | | The Curry naysayers don't really doubt his ability. It's more along the lines of "go out there and actually do it." The potential is there, but it's just not realized yet. |
Well it definitely looks like he's going out there and doing it..
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nevitt_smrek
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| PurpleAndGOAT wrote: | | nevitt_smrek wrote: | | The Curry naysayers don't really doubt his ability. It's more along the lines of "go out there and actually do it." The potential is there, but it's just not realized yet. |
Well it definitely looks like he's going out there and doing it.. |
He certainly is. Sustaining for a reasonably long period of time is what most people would like to see. 5-7 years, I'd say. He was pretty good in the two years prior to last year's title, knocking down big shots. It wasn't until Kerr (now Luke) came in that Curry and the team went to another level.
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| If you put Steph Curry on the Lakers, how many games would they win? Would the Lakers still be a lottery team? I tend to think they would. That's why even though Steph is a great player, I still think the MVP is Lebron. Lebron showed last year he could take scrubs to the Finals. I don't think Steph could do that. |
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Put Curry on this year's Lakers and we are at least a 40 win team. Guaranteed. One because he would say (bleep) Byron's offense, two because of his shooting, three because of his creativity, and four because he'll get so much attention that our other 4 guys will be wide open at some point during every offensive possession.
We would be no worse than 06 or 07. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| PurpleAndGOAT wrote: | | nevitt_smrek wrote: | | The Curry naysayers don't really doubt his ability. It's more along the lines of "go out there and actually do it." The potential is there, but it's just not realized yet. |
Well it definitely looks like he's going out there and doing it.. |
Yes for couple seasons like 3? We need to see more he only had couple elite MVP type seasons his longevity and what he does next 6-7 years we will have much more clear picture how high Curry ranks against the greats of the game. |
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| Plaza234 wrote: | | If you put Steph Curry on the Lakers, how many games would they win? Would the Lakers still be a lottery team? I tend to think they would. That's why even though Steph is a great player, I still think the MVP is Lebron. Lebron showed last year he could take scrubs to the Finals. I don't think Steph could do that. |
Who did Lebron beat in the playoffs? Even Byron Scott took a team to the Finals after winning the East. In fact he did it twice in a row. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | Plaza234 wrote: | | If you put Steph Curry on the Lakers, how many games would they win? Would the Lakers still be a lottery team? I tend to think they would. That's why even though Steph is a great player, I still think the MVP is Lebron. Lebron showed last year he could take scrubs to the Finals. I don't think Steph could do that. |
Who did Lebron beat in the playoffs? Even Byron Scott took a team to the Finals after winning the East. In fact he did it twice in a row. |
That was only because those Nets teams had Brian Scalabrine
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Curry has reached an incredible level. Like it or not, it's not likely that he's gonna go away. Same thing for those wishing the same for Djokovic or Federer in tennis. Not gonna happen, they are here to stay.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| nevitt_smrek wrote: | | Curry has reached an incredible level. Like it or not, it's not likely that he's gonna go away. Same thing for those wishing the same for Djokovic or Federer in tennis. Not gonna happen, they are here to stay. |
they'd probably need to do something about the 3 point line, give it a cpl more years and 75% of his shots will be 3 pointers
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Telleris wrote: | | nevitt_smrek wrote: | | Curry has reached an incredible level. Like it or not, it's not likely that he's gonna go away. Same thing for those wishing the same for Djokovic or Federer in tennis. Not gonna happen, they are here to stay. |
they'd probably need to do something about the 3 point line, give it a cpl more years and 75% of his shots will be 3 pointers |
One solution for those that miss a more traditional style of ball (low post play from bigs, mid-range shots, for example) is to remove the line outright. The games probably wouldn't be as exciting overall, particularly at the end.
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Curry has sick handles & shoots off the dribble as good as anyone I've seen. Ray Allen & Reggie needed to come off screens or open looks to hit those shots. Curry's prime is way ahead of those two. Respect Reggie for carrying a franchise deep into playoffs & 2000 finals without HOF talents around him. But Curry is in another league and will solidify that in a year or two. Ray Allen is a 3rd option for a contender at best and I don't even consider him as a franchise player. Actually, I feel its disrespectful to put him in the same bracket as Reggie. He probably doesn't get the respect he deserves due to trash talking and TNT stint.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| nevitt_smrek wrote: | | Telleris wrote: | | nevitt_smrek wrote: | | Curry has reached an incredible level. Like it or not, it's not likely that he's gonna go away. Same thing for those wishing the same for Djokovic or Federer in tennis. Not gonna happen, they are here to stay. |
they'd probably need to do something about the 3 point line, give it a cpl more years and 75% of his shots will be 3 pointers |
One solution for those that miss a more traditional style of ball (low post play from bigs, mid-range shots, for example) is to remove the line outright. The games probably wouldn't be as exciting overall, particularly at the end. |
I'm one of those people tbh, i think basketball should be about getting a shot as close to the rim as possible. It's not, and i fully understand and agree with what they do re:the 3 point line, since the goal is to win, i'm just not a huge fan of how the game encourages shooting from further away.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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He won the freaking MVP last year, and I think you could make a convincing case the he's the Most Improved Player in the league this year.  |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | He won the freaking MVP last year, and I think you could make a convincing case the he's the Most Improved Player in the league this year. |
 True!
They should just make all his 3's count as 2's. That's the only way to slow him down. He's the only player since Kobe that I've seen that can score consistently even when the defender plays perfect defense. He still makes Fading away, hand in the face, off the dribble, step back 3's from 4 ft behind the line at a clip that most good 3 point shooters would be happy to be hitting on unguarded spot-ups. He plays like someone screwed with the sliders on 2K. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| I just loved how pissed off Kemba Walker was last night. There's literally no way to guard Curry that doesn't leave you open to some other avenue by which the W's can score. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| That boy Curry is mean |
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His team is a quarter of the way through the season and still haven't lost.
And that is playing in the Western Conference.
Very very impressive and he is a big reason why.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | His team is a quarter of the way through the season and still haven't lost.
And that is playing in the Western Conference.
Very very impressive and he is a big reason why. |
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Greatest is so subjective because of eras. I remember Bob Cousy, Walt Fraizer, Tiny Archibald and likes. Cousy was a part of a team that won 8 straight championships. He won 5 straight.
I will say I've never seen a PG or player, for that matter, who shoots the 3 with such ease and consistency as does Steph. I'm surprised when he misses.
Steph's making a case for mention as GOAT. The Warriors are making BB history and he's the main reason.
Consistently playing as he is will elevate him to the level of Magic, MJ and likes.
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | He won the freaking MVP last year, and I think you could make a convincing case the he's the Most Improved Player in the league this year. |
Both his FG% and 3 point FG% are up this year...
FG is at 52.7% while his 3 point FG% is at 46.8%....
He shoots 3's way better than most players shoot 2's... |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | He won the freaking MVP last year, and I think you could make a convincing case the he's the Most Improved Player in the league this year. |
Both his FG% and 3 point FG% are up this year...
FG is at 52.7% while his 3 point FG% is at 46.8%....
He shoots 3's way better than most players shoot 2's... |
They've moved him off the ball even more, that team doesn't really have a point guard atm, i guess you could call him a combo guard. Draymond Green is leading their team in assists, by a pretty comfortable margin right now.
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