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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | They downgraded from coaches. Gentry is overrated, Curry and Klay made him look like a great assistant. |
It will probably be one of the dumb coaching moves up there with Denver firing George Karl and replacing him with Brian Shaw. |
Exactly why we should be careful about overrating Luke Walton as a potential Lakers head coach.
It isn't like he would be bringing Curry, Thompson, Green, Iggy, etc. with him. |
But he would be bringing their offensive sets and defensive principles. |
Then why hasn't GEntry done the same thing in New Orleans?? |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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AllorNothing wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | They downgraded from coaches. Gentry is overrated, Curry and Klay made him look like a great assistant. |
It will probably be one of the dumb coaching moves up there with Denver firing George Karl and replacing him with Brian Shaw. |
Exactly why we should be careful about overrating Luke Walton as a potential Lakers head coach.
It isn't like he would be bringing Curry, Thompson, Green, Iggy, etc. with him. |
But he would be bringing their offensive sets and defensive principles. |
Then why hasn't GEntry done the same thing in New Orleans?? |
idk. their roster definitely is a big factor in their record.. AD has even missed the last two games |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:03 am Post subject: |
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1-9 now....
The selfish NBA fan in me wants them to win more so they don't hog one of the top positions in the NBA draft, they were a playoff team last year so giving them a high draft pick will instantly change their fortunes whether by trading that pick or having another talented player to pair along with Anthony Davis. |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:22 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | 1-9 now....
The selfish NBA fan in me wants them to win more so they don't hog one of the top positions in the NBA draft, they were a playoff team last year so giving them a high draft pick will instantly change their fortunes whether by trading that pick or having another talented player to pair along with Anthony Davis. |
no way they don't win 30 games.. 35 honestly.. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:03 am Post subject: |
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If they fire Gentry should we hire him to our staff as offensive assistant? |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:20 am Post subject: |
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AllorNothing wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | They downgraded from coaches. Gentry is overrated, Curry and Klay made him look like a great assistant. |
It will probably be one of the dumb coaching moves up there with Denver firing George Karl and replacing him with Brian Shaw. |
Exactly why we should be careful about overrating Luke Walton as a potential Lakers head coach.
It isn't like he would be bringing Curry, Thompson, Green, Iggy, etc. with him. |
But he would be bringing their offensive sets and defensive principles. |
Then why hasn't GEntry done the same thing in New Orleans?? |
Defensive principles : Set by Mark Jackson
Offensive principles : perfected by Alvin Gentry
Guy that hired assistants that knew more than him: Steve Kerr
Gentry shines as an assistant more so than a coach. If he was an assistant to Monty it'd be a lot better. |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22734 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:01 am Post subject: |
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They were one of the reasons why the Lakers weren't going to make the playoffs in the crowded west. That's why I always think it's silly when pundits and fans are so sure of which teams will make the playoffs. There will always be surprise risers and surprise drop-outs. Which is why I'm always hopeful for my Lakers. Unfortunately we haven't risen yet. |
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kaoss128 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Gentry isn't the problem. Right now the supporting cast Davis has is by far the worst in the league. Take off Anthony Davis and they're worse than the 76ers. |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:22 am Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | Gentry isn't the problem. Right now the supporting cast Davis has is by far the worst in the league. Take off Anthony Davis and they're worse than the 76ers. |
They've also played the Warriors twice and the Hawks twice. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:39 am Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | Gentry isn't the problem. Right now the supporting cast Davis has is by far the worst in the league. Take off Anthony Davis and they're worse than the 76ers. |
They had the same core last year. |
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kaoss128 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:47 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | kaoss128 wrote: | Gentry isn't the problem. Right now the supporting cast Davis has is by far the worst in the league. Take off Anthony Davis and they're worse than the 76ers. |
They had the same core last year. |
There's no Tyreke Evans. Jrue Holiday is on a hard minutes cap. They've ran Ish Smith, Tony Douglas, Nate Robinson, and Jimmer Fredette all at PG at some point or another. Asik has missed half their games. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | kaoss128 wrote: | Gentry isn't the problem. Right now the supporting cast Davis has is by far the worst in the league. Take off Anthony Davis and they're worse than the 76ers. |
They had the same core last year. |
There's no Tyreke Evans. Jrue Holiday is on a hard minutes cap. They've ran Ish Smith, Tony Douglas, Nate Robinson, and Jimmer Fredette all at PG at some point or another. Asik has missed half their games. |
In 2014-15
AD missed 14 games
Jrue Holiday missed 42 games
Ryan Anderson 21 games
Eric Gordon 21 games
They've been an oft injured team. I don't think this is just injuries, although it definitely plays a part. I think when you have a team built for a certain style, and a new coach comes in who doesn't fit that style and pushes a new style, it usually winds up falling really flat. It happens a lot in the NBA. |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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AD hurt his shoulder tonight, seen him playing through it since preseason..
Pels are screwed. hoepfully they're a couple wins better than us this year, still think they should be |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | AD hurt his shoulder tonight, seen him playing through it since preseason..
Pels are screwed. hoepfully they're a couple wins better than us this year, still think they should be |
If we had a competent coach, this would have been the perfect environment to at least attempt a run at the playoffs. |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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fiendishoc wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | AD hurt his shoulder tonight, seen him playing through it since preseason..
Pels are screwed. hoepfully they're a couple wins better than us this year, still think they should be |
If we had a competent coach, this would have been the perfect environment to at least attempt a run at the playoffs. |
Completely agree.
Portland was a given to fall off. Houston and Pelicans are the big surprise. Dallas looks like they're also on fumes. |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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true ^. that would have been good for the franchise.. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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There was no way with our talent level and the lack of winning ready Randle/Russ are that this team was going to win 43-44 games, which is what's needed to sneak in the West.
But we should be better than what we are - that's for sure on Byron. |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Pelicans appear to have caught a bad case of the bird flu.
They are leading the Spurs so far tonight though. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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