Do the Lakers Have a Top 3 Bench?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:20 am    Post subject: Do the Lakers Have a Top 3 Bench?

The Rondo/Lance/McGee/Beez ("Crazy Uncles") signings have been mocked by many. However, when you really dig deep, we secretly have one of the best bench units in the NBA, and a very deep roster.

Lonzo/Rondo
KCP/Hart
BI/Beez/Lance/Svi
LBJ/Kuz/Deng
McGee/Zub/Wagner

While having the best starters obviously matters, having a bench that can easily step up and fill in for an injured player (Lonzo missed 30+ games; BI missed 20+ games).

Also, we can rest players and especially during the Feb-March stretch when things start getting tedious, we'd have guys who are fresher than most teams.

Our bench depth is an underrated strength of this team and something that people are sleeping on while they stay glued to mocking the Crazy Uncles. I think they will be a handful for most teams this year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject:

Quantity over quality. Rondo and Beasley would be positives. Better than most though not up to the GS standard. And unless you are playing for third place, that is the standard.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:31 am    Post subject:

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Quantity over quality. Rondo and Beasley would be positives. Better than most though not up to the GS standard. And unless you are playing for third place, that is the standard.


What teams have better benches?

Rondo was a bona fide stud in the playoffs.

Beez was a real surprise for the Knicks as he's showing some maturity in his game.

Hart is a starter quality shooting guard who needs more reps.

Kuz is also a scoring punch.

Your boy Deng is still here so I guess you'd vouch for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject:

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Quantity over quality. Rondo and Beasley would be positives. Better than most though not up to the GS standard. And unless you are playing for third place, that is the standard.


Are you talking this year's GS bench?

... as of now GS does not have a better bench.. they'd trade their bench in a heartbeat for ours
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject:

There's a bench that still has Livingston and Iguodala.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:35 am    Post subject:

Celtics, Lakers, GS top 3
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:41 am    Post subject:

possible overall
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:46 am    Post subject:

I saw a guy make an interesting point the other day about the way they built our roster.

It's not just about doing something different than GS/Houston. It's about doing something different because these two teams already have the best players to play that way, so there's no way we could top them by doing the same thing no matter how much people prefer Tyreke/Nappier over Rondo/Lance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:48 am    Post subject:

I think we will see wholesale hockey subs where we just try to overwhelm teams. The first unit will have an identity centered around LBJ.

2nd unit IMO will be a free flowing, fast and in your face group that may be tough for other teams to match.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:52 am    Post subject:

Best bench in the NBA imo

Feel like we have two starting lineups

Lonzo 28/rondo 20 /Caruso
KCP 24/hart 24/svi
Ingram 28/lance 16/Kuzma 4/wear
bron 24/Kuzma 18/Beasley 6
Javale 24/Bron 6/kuz 6/ beasely 12/zu/Wagner


We have a lot of talent at our forward positions and I believe They will all spend time as our small ball 5. I feel like zubac and Wagner will only play situationally against certain teams or injury.

We should all be fresh going into playoffs
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:53 am    Post subject:

AirKobe8 wrote:
I saw a guy make an interesting point the other day about the way they built our roster.

It's not just about doing something different than GS/Houston. It's about doing something different because these two teams already have the best players to play that way, so there's no way we could top them by doing the same thing no matter how much people prefer Tyreke/Nappier over Rondo/Lance.


Magic made that point at summer league as well.

No way you can create a team to out shoot GS-- their shooting talent will always take over.

He built a team, and bench, that will be physical, agitate, and be able to beat teams with passing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject:

Healthy Boston

They have too many starter quality players so some will come off the bench

Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Morris, Yabusele
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:04 am    Post subject:

Okay, but what makes for a good bench? I agree with VLF that this is quantity over quality. I guess it might be a top 3 bench from a certain perspective, but I don't have a handy list of the benches around the league for comparison purposes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:10 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Healthy Boston

They have too many starter quality players so some will come off the bench

Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Morris, Yabusele


feels like there is one of these names that does not belong.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Okay, but what makes for a good bench? I agree with VLF that this is quantity over quality. I guess it might be a top 3 bench from a certain perspective, but I don't have a handy list of the benches around the league for comparison purposes.


Some criteria in my head:

1. 6MOY capable players
2. able to fill in for starters in case of injuries
3. versatility and functionality.

Some teams have #1 (i.e. Houston, Clips, but may lack #2/3).

I think we excel in #2/3.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
defense wrote:
Healthy Boston

They have too many starter quality players so some will come off the bench

Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Morris, Yabusele


feels like there is one of these names that does not belong.....


Hilarious because I thought the exact same thing when reading that list of names.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:29 am    Post subject:

Luminous8 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
defense wrote:
Healthy Boston

They have too many starter quality players so some will come off the bench

Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Morris, Yabusele


feels like there is one of these names that does not belong.....


Hilarious because I thought the exact same thing when reading that list of names.


I was just throwing out names. Horford, Baynes... you get the point
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:29 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject:

Also guys like Beez/Lance/McGee are in their physical primes.

I really noticed a maturity in Beez's game last year on the Knicks. And McGee is also trying to shed the "Shaqtin'" label too.

Lance, I'm still a bit puzzled but yeah, he's in his prime too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject:

Don't overlook the Raptors bench.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject:

On paper... absolutely!

In reality there is a lot to be worked out. I love the depth, versatility and mix of vet and young players.

My concern is chemistry and egos. Can they "play nice" with one another? Can they accept limited mpg or DNPs at times? Roster has a lot of new players playing new roles. In some ways there is already a built in division of the locker room of the guys that have been there and the 1 year contracts. Where will James fit into the equation?

I am slowly coming to terms with the possibilities of this roster, this season. Going to be interesting to see them work it out on the court.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject:

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Don't overlook the Raptors bench.


Yeah. Not saying we are the best bench, but certainly in the discussion for top 3 IMO.

I like these other benches:

Raps (OG, Siakum, VanFleet)
Boston (Rozier, likely Brown)
Warriors (Iggy, Livingston, Bell)
Clips (Lou, Mbah, SGA)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject:

I think it's great that we are 2 deep in every position other than C. I'm curious to see what these guys have to prove.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject:

I just realised that we're talking about the bench, when we don't even know who's starting outside that guy in my signature.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Quantity over quality. Rondo and Beasley would be positives. Better than most though not up to the GS standard. And unless you are playing for third place, that is the standard.


What teams have better benches?

Rondo was a bona fide stud in the playoffs.

Beez was a real surprise for the Knicks as he's showing some maturity in his game.

Hart is a starter quality shooting guard who needs more reps.

Kuz is also a scoring punch.

Your boy Deng is still here so I guess you'd vouch for him.


As I mentioned, the team that everyone needs to beat.
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