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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:24 am Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | onepinoyboy8 wrote: |
You do know you can still contract HIV even with protection |
And you can still get pregnant while on the pill. So what's your point? |
The point is pretty obvious. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:30 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | hoopschick29 wrote: |
Still think it's wrong. You lay down with a flea bag like Charlie Sheen (whose body count is allegedly 5000+) with no plastic you get what you get. People are waging their sexual health on somebody telling them something like HIV?? People don't disclose, that's why half the world has herpes. So I can sue a guy if I don't insist on a condom and he gives me the cooties?? Sorry, I just think that's ridiculous. |
We have all kinds of laws and regulations that are designed to protect people who make bad decisions from being taken advantage of. That doesn't change just because you may view someone as dumb slut. |
It's not about being dumb. It's about being responsible for your own body. These aren't dumb sluts that were taken advantage of by the big bad wolf. Most of these broads getting ready to sue Charlie are/were PROFESSIONAL sex workers (i.e pornstars, hookers). These are women who know all the risks involved in having unprotected sex...because it was their JOB. Bree Olsen crying and boohooing on Inside Edition and to anyone else who will listen. She is/was a porn actress. She hasn't been with Chuck in at least 4 years. You mean to tell me she hasn't had a single HIV test in all that time?? Gimme a break. Don't be fooled by these hoes in distress. They are on a come up. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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The concepts of "should have known better" or "taking responsibility for your own body" don't alleviate the offender from their responsibility. For example, women should clearly know the dangers of getting too drunk or finding themselves in compromising situations with people they don't know or trust, but that doesn't mean we give the offender a pass if the woman gets sexually assaulted as a result.
What you discuss is pretty much along the lines of "she deserved it", which is a lousy attitude and is not justified even if you find the actions of those involved to be distasteful. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:42 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | The concepts of "should have known better" or "taking responsibility for your own body" don't alleviate the offender from their responsibility. For example, women should clearly know the dangers of getting too drunk or finding themselves in compromising situations with people they don't know or trust, but that doesn't mean we give the offender a pass if the woman gets sexually assaulted as a result.
What you discuss is pretty much along the lines of "she deserved it", which is a lousy attitude and is not justified even if you find the actions of those involved to be distasteful. |
Bad example. Women getting too drunk and then getting raped is a question of lacking the mental and physical capacity to CONSENT to sex. What's at play here is disclosure, and are we really putting our sexual health on the line hoping that someone has told us everything we need to know to make a sound decision. The clinics are full of men and women getting treated for the cooties because they hooked up with some random who didn't disclose. But this is different. Everybody knows how Charlie Sheen gets down. Everybody knows his body count is in the THOUSANDS. As porn stars, these women work in a heavily regulated industry where they are tested constantly and encouraged to glove up every time. They know the risks, even more than your average Jane.
Everyone has an obligation to take REASONABLE measures to protect themselves. The offender can only offend if you don't take those reasonable measures. You can be a hoe without being a reckless hoe. And when you know better, you SHOULD do better. These women knew better. That's why they're full of it. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | The concepts of "should have known better" or "taking responsibility for your own body" don't alleviate the offender from their responsibility. For example, women should clearly know the dangers of getting too drunk or finding themselves in compromising situations with people they don't know or trust, but that doesn't mean we give the offender a pass if the woman gets sexually assaulted as a result.
What you discuss is pretty much along the lines of "she deserved it", which is a lousy attitude and is not justified even if you find the actions of those involved to be distasteful. |
Bad example. Women getting too drunk and then getting assaulted is a question of lacking the mental and physical capacity to CONSENT to sex. What's at play here is disclosure, and are we really putting our sexual health on the line hoping that someone has told us everything we need to know to make a sound decision. The clinics are full of men and women getting treated for the cooties because they hooked up with some random who didn't disclose. But this is different. Everybody knows how Charlie Sheen gets down. Everybody knows his body count is in the THOUSANDS. As porn stars, these women work in a heavily regulated industry where they are tested constantly and encouraged to glove up every time. They know the risks, even more than your average Jane.
Everyone has an obligation to take REASONABLE measures to protect themselves. The offender can only offend if you don't take those reasonable measures. You can be a hoe without being a reckless hoe. And when you know better, you SHOULD do better. These women knew better. That's why they're full of it. |
Not a bad example at all, because the bottom-line is that victims making poor decisions, regardless of their mental capacity or knowledge at the time, does not absolve the guilty party of their responsibilities. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't heard that for years. hoops you've caused me look at you in a different light.
I blame the creator. He/She made something so enjoyable so dangerous. The true reason for it's creation is seldom the reason it's used. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | Haven't heard that for years. hoops you've caused me look at you in a different light.
I blame the creator. He/She made something so enjoyable so dangerous. The true reason for it's creation is seldom the reason it's used. |
No. That would be biology. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | Haven't heard that for years. hoops you've caused me look at you in a different light.
I blame the creator. He/She made sex so enjoyable so dangerous. The true reason for it's creation is seldom the reason it's used. |
EDIT: FOR DMR _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | The concepts of "should have known better" or "taking responsibility for your own body" don't alleviate the offender from their responsibility. For example, women should clearly know the dangers of getting too drunk or finding themselves in compromising situations with people they don't know or trust, but that doesn't mean we give the offender a pass if the woman gets sexually assaulted as a result.
What you discuss is pretty much along the lines of "she deserved it", which is a lousy attitude and is not justified even if you find the actions of those involved to be distasteful. |
Bad example. Women getting too drunk and then getting assaulted is a question of lacking the mental and physical capacity to CONSENT to sex. What's at play here is disclosure, and are we really putting our sexual health on the line hoping that someone has told us everything we need to know to make a sound decision. The clinics are full of men and women getting treated for the cooties because they hooked up with some random who didn't disclose. But this is different. Everybody knows how Charlie Sheen gets down. Everybody knows his body count is in the THOUSANDS. As porn stars, these women work in a heavily regulated industry where they are tested constantly and encouraged to glove up every time. They know the risks, even more than your average Jane.
Everyone has an obligation to take REASONABLE measures to protect themselves. The offender can only offend if you don't take those reasonable measures. You can be a hoe without being a reckless hoe. And when you know better, you SHOULD do better. These women knew better. That's why they're full of it. |
You are so remarkably wrong it's unreal. Yeah, it's a dumb decision to have unprotected sex with Charlie Sheen. Nobody is saying otherwise. However, IF HE KNEW HE WAS POSITIVE AND CHOSE TO NOT TELL SOMEONE HE WAS ABOUT TO GET IT IN RAW WITH, by law that is a criminal offense. Yeah, the people that had sex with him aren't smart. It doesn't matter. And I don't know about not disclosing that you have herpes or whatnot, but HIV is another matter entirely because it's considered a life-threatening and life-altering chronic disease. If you are HIV positive, and you don't reveal your status to a sexual partner, it's a criminal offense. And then to think that he may have done this and didn't even bother to wrap up? Stupidity on the part of the victim does not absolve the perpetrator of wrongdoing. His only potential argument at all is to say that he did indeed tell them and that they are lying. But based on reports I've seen, it looks like he didn't tell them and that he believed that no one was in danger because he was undetectable. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | sickside323 wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
he did have sex with a lot of hookers. I don't think it was the hookers that gave him the virus. He must have shared needles with someone |
lakersken80 wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
Dude banged everything with 2 legs.... |
WWWHOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH!!!!!!!! |
Lol whatever... over the head. I argue Having sex with a hooker can be a responsible decision if practiced correctly and safely |
So do you use a service or just cruise Hollywood Blvd? |
what is craigslist for anyways?
I kid I kid |
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Free_Kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Charlie Sheen reveals that he is HIV Positive... |
Finally! a positive thing about Charlie Sheen!! _________________ ♪ ♫One good thing about music, when it hits, you feel no pain...
So hit me with music! ♪ ♫ |
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | sickside323 wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
he did have sex with a lot of hookers. I don't think it was the hookers that gave him the virus. He must have shared needles with someone |
lakersken80 wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
Dude banged everything with 2 legs.... |
WWWHOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH!!!!!!!! |
Lol whatever... over the head. I argue Having sex with a hooker can be a responsible decision if practiced correctly and safely |
So do you use a service or just cruise Hollywood Blvd? |
what is craigslist for anyways?
I kid I kid |
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cas/5322514461.html _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: |
what is craigslist for anyways? |
So Craig can be organized. |
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999 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:53 am Post subject: |
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C M B wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | sickside323 wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
he did have sex with a lot of hookers. I don't think it was the hookers that gave him the virus. He must have shared needles with someone |
lakersken80 wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
Dude banged everything with 2 legs.... |
WWWHOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH!!!!!!!! |
Lol whatever... over the head. I argue Having sex with a hooker can be a responsible decision if practiced correctly and safely |
So do you use a service or just cruise Hollywood Blvd? |
what is craigslist for anyways?
I kid I kid |
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cas/5322514461.html |
I guess i set myself up for that one. Pretty funny though |
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:07 am Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | ocho wrote: | This shows you can do everything right, make all the responsible decisions, and still end up with HIV. |
he did have sex with a lot of hookers. I don't think it was the hookers that gave him the virus. He must have shared needles with someone |
Or got it from a dude. |
Radar claims it has seen video clips of Sheen going down on a dude:
http://radaronline.com/videos/charlie-sheen-hiv-positive-caught-camera-performing-oral-sex-man/ |
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