“Right now he's still trying to find his way. He’s trying to find his niche and trying to find out what he can do within the offense to be successful. And as I’ve I told him, I’m not looking for you to average 20 points a game, I’m looking for you to be our facilitator and get everybody where they need to be, but also to be aggressive when you have the opportunity to be aggressive. I think he’s trying to figure out that happy medium.”
On Trusting Russell:
"You gotta earn it. Players have got to make me want to trust them. D'Angelo’s one of those guys that I’m getting to that point where I’m trusting him, but I still want him to continue to learn and not try to do things on the fly, I just want him to stick within the system as much as possible.”
Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
PARKING BRAKE BYRON SCOTT. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
What's interesting about this is that the common critique of Byron has been that he needs to let Russell play more freely and less within the system.
This quote implies that Russell already IS doing too much "on the fly" and not sticking with running the offense.
The idea that the Russell that we've seen so far is how he plays "on the fly" is kind of frightening.
Are you kidding me? He's not playing on the fly. He's been told by Scott to stick to his "system."
You watch DLO from college and now, it's abundantly clear he's trying to run Scott's "system." _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
What's interesting about this is that the common critique of Byron has been that he needs to let Russell play more freely and less within the system.
This quote implies that Russell already IS doing too much "on the fly" and not sticking with running the offense.
The idea that the Russell that we've seen so far is how he plays "on the fly" is kind of frightening.
You got it backwards.
Scott wants Russell to "be our facilitator and get everybody where they need to be" and not "looking for you to average 20 points a game."
That's exactly what Russell is doing all season.
The only time I've seen Russell go on the fly is that 4th quarter outburst vs the Suns in the last 3-4 mins of a blowout when Russell decided, screw it, I'm playing my game rom here on out and scored like 4 straight buckets. _________________
Russell is a scoring guard who also makes plays for others with his elite level vision. This is a complete misuse of his skillset and I can only hope it doesn't stunt his development. The front office really should step in on this one. This is exactly what I said before, the team is using him as a pg who just looks like his job is to get other guys the ball in their spots. I'm really starting to think they are clueless about his game, he isn't of the Jason kidd mold. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest
Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
Read it again. Look at the words, not what you want it to read.
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That alone tells you, he's a scorer first, a facilitator second.
Just because he makes beautiful passes you can't even imagine doesn't mean he needs to start being programed into a full time facilitator all of a sudden.
Lakers should just let Russell play his game. Let him operate to score, then facilitate when need be. _________________ Endgame Hail Hydra
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Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
Read it again. Look at the words, not what you want it to read.
Ah, so you think Scott is right and that DLO is doing too much to veer from his vaunted winning system? Gotcha. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Yup, further confirmation of what we're seeing. The question for me is how long will it take to earn Scott's trust? The thing is, I'm pretty sure that Scott is losing his players' trust. _________________ LeBron, AD, & _________. Stay tuned.
"...there was a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert and all of a sudden, bread came down from heaven,” Pelinka said. “That’s kind of what today feels like for us to have KCP join.”
That alone tells you, he's a scorer first, a facilitator second.
Just because he makes beautiful passes you can't even imagine doesn't mean he needs to start being programed into a full time facilitator all of a sudden.
Lakers should just let Russell play his game. Let him operate to score, then facilitate when need be.
That doesn't mean he's a scorer first, that's just how college stats often shake out with players who have the ball in their hands the most, and are the most talented. Around 5 apg is often a college stat of players who end up being high-assist players in the NBA.
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I don't think Byron has any idea what he wants. He tells DLo to stick with the system, but only time he got consistent playing time was when he tried to go iso against Magic in the first quarter. He doesn't care that Lou can't be primary ball handler due to his tunnel vision and turnovers as all he sees is him going iso and drawing a few fouls when he isn't gifting the opposition. _________________ Showtime 2.0
Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
Read it again. Look at the words, not what you want it to read.
Ah, so you think Scott is right and that DLO is doing too much to veer from his vaunted winning system? Gotcha.
For the record, I don't like BS as our coach. How effective his system is is irrelevant in this particular discussion. DLO isn't running it consistently so he hasn't fully earned the mans trust. That's what it reads. You planted another message in there and ran with it. Just like you did with my post.
I still have the feeling that Scott finishes out the year with Kobe, and we move in a new direction coaching-wise in time for free agency. _________________ LeBron, AD, & _________. Stay tuned.
"...there was a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert and all of a sudden, bread came down from heaven,” Pelinka said. “That’s kind of what today feels like for us to have KCP join.”
Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
Read it again. Look at the words, not what you want it to read.
Ah, so you think Scott is right and that DLO is doing too much to veer from his vaunted winning system? Gotcha.
For the record, I don't like BS as our coach. How effective his system is is irrelevant in this particular discussion. DLO isn't running it consistently so he hasn't fully earned the mans trust. That's what it reads. You planted another message in there and ran with it. Just like you did with my post as well.
Got it now?
Gotcha. But the subtext is important. No need to be objective in this b/c we all know Scott's coaching acumen is highly suspect.
So when he says DLO isn't following his flawed system, then what exactly is he not doing? It's fairly obvious from video breakdowns that Scott wants him to bring the ball up and make the initial pass and then disappear. He's doing that. So what exactly does Scott want him to do? When DLO veered off Scott's "system," he scored 16 points in 20 minutes against the Nets and was benched.
See the confusion this breeds?
So I'm done giving Scott the benefit of the doubt here. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Russell is a scoring guard who also makes plays for others with his elite level vision. This is a complete misuse of his skillset and I can only hope it doesn't stunt his development. The front office really should step in on this one. This is exactly what I said before, the team is using him as a pg who just looks like his job is to get other guys the ball in their spots. I'm really starting to think they are clueless about his game, he isn't of the Jason kidd mold.
Preach it, brother.
My guess is this. Byron didn't watch Russell during his days at OSU (not an indictment on him, he's busy and that's not his job), caught his workouts, and then defined him into a preconceived role based off of his notions of how basketball works, which were formed in 1985 and haven't changed much. "We want you to be a facilitator...we're not looking for you to score 20ppg." Shows a tremendous misunderstanding of who Russell is.
Yup. Confirms that DLO is doing EXACTLY what his coach is telling him to do.
in other words, his conductor is telling him to play a certain flawed piece of music and he's obliging.
Whether as a 19 year old, he should be the one spearheading the revolt against the flawed plan is another question, as one would hope vets like Kobe, Hibbert, MWP would do that.
Read it again. Look at the words, not what you want it to read.
Ah, so you think Scott is right and that DLO is doing too much to veer from his vaunted winning system? Gotcha.
I think he thinks Russell should play like Lou Williams more, aka bring the ball up court and hoist a three, or bring the ball up court and go to an isolation play.
All this is the exact opposite of what Byron wants in his PG to facilitate an offense, but Lou still gets all the minutes.
So doing that may earn the Coach's trust in whatever system he wants. _________________
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Russell is a scoring guard who also makes plays for others with his elite level vision. This is a complete misuse of his skillset and I can only hope it doesn't stunt his development. The front office really should step in on this one. This is exactly what I said before, the team is using him as a pg who just looks like his job is to get other guys the ball in their spots. I'm really starting to think they are clueless about his game, he isn't of the Jason kidd mold.
Preach it, brother.
My guess is this. Byron didn't watch Russell during his days at OSU (not an indictment on him, he's busy and that's not his job), caught his workouts, and then defined him into a preconceived role based off of his notions of how basketball works, which were formed in 1985 and haven't changed much. "We want you to be a facilitator...we're not looking for you to score 20ppg." Shows a tremendous misunderstanding of who Russell is.
Also shows a gross misunderstanding of where the NBA is. Players now a days are more athletic, more skilled, more creative, more versatile. They have been coached up their entire lives. All the successful teams are the ones who's coaches more or less get out of the way and let them find there own game within a team concept.
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