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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Whats wrong with prople? U want to trade rusell/randle for hot trash ok4?
Jesus christ, the name of thread is rumors/speculation and not fantasy |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:05 am Post subject: |
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With the exception of Pau, the motivation for Laker in-season trades the past few years has been to cut salary, which doesn't seem a priority this season. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | Whats wrong with prople? U want to trade rusell/randle for hot trash ok4?
Jesus christ, the name of thread is rumors/speculation and not fantasy | You are right . Disregard that post. I wouldn't trade Russell for him but, I would gladly trade Randle and JC for Okafor, but Philly wouldn't. We probably would be better off trying to get someone like Cousins or Love. |
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fontana3d Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: |
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scoobs wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Whats wrong with prople? U want to trade rusell/randle for hot trash ok4?
Jesus christ, the name of thread is rumors/speculation and not fantasy | You are right . Disregard that post. I wouldn't trade Russell for him but, I would gladly trade Randle and JC for Okafor, but Philly wouldn't. We probably would be better off trying to get someone like Cousins or Love. |
Which we will have no shot at either one. |
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paolomagma Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:30 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | silkwilkes wrote: | Dumping players like Kelly, Young and even Lou will be the priority. Probably for #2 picks and/or expiring contracts. |
Kelly maybe, the other two aren't likely to be traded. |
I don't see any team that would want Kelly though. Not one. not even for picks.
The only way to get rid of him is to package him with Lou, Young or Bass. |
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Shaber Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Could we trade Scott? _________________ .
Lakers depth chart
PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan |
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fontana3d Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:22 am Post subject: |
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paolomagma wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | silkwilkes wrote: | Dumping players like Kelly, Young and even Lou will be the priority. Probably for #2 picks and/or expiring contracts. |
Kelly maybe, the other two aren't likely to be traded. |
I don't see any team that would want Kelly though. Not one. not even for picks.
The only way to get rid of him is to package him with Lou, Young or Bass. |
Which the Lakers tried to do by packaging Young with Kelly thus making the Lou signing make sense. |
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rebirth Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:58 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | I will speculate that there will be no in season trades. |
co-signed _________________ “What is 17,505”
“Rest at the end not at the middle” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:02 am Post subject: |
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rebirth wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | I will speculate that there will be no in season trades. |
co-signed |
I think you guys are right. I don't see any trades happening.
Not for lack of trying. We just won't get the value we want for our assets. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Would be nice if Bass got traded though. Possibly Lou as well _________________ Kobe |
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HumanVictoryCigar Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:11 am Post subject: |
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scoobs wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Whats wrong with prople? U want to trade rusell/randle for hot trash ok4?
Jesus christ, the name of thread is rumors/speculation and not fantasy | You are right . Disregard that post. I wouldn't trade Russell for him but, I would gladly trade Randle and JC for Okafor, but Philly wouldn't. We probably would be better off trying to get someone like Cousins or Love. |
you bought gold at $1,800, didn't you? Buy high, sell low?
I have a feeling this thread is going to produce the worst "fan" trades in the history of bad fan trades. That one right there, probably should be marked for the history books...
edit: for historical records: this was his ORIGINAL idea:
"I really, really would hate to trade Russell. I think he is going to be a great nba basketball player. However, I am down to send him and Randle to Philly for Okafor"
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Big Game James Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. _________________ Don't make me give you a trout slap! |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:15 am Post subject: |
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When we are 4- whatever by trade deadline I think guys like Lou/bass/nick will be moved to go full youth movement. I expect the way jc was used last year will be how young guys will be used this. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
He's not getting 22m next year. lakers could go up to 21m for him but unlikely. The most I see from the Lakers is probably 15m ish. If another team makes an offer and we match the most he gets for 2 years is the mid level exception. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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ch3cky0selff00 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:10 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
He's not getting 22m next year. lakers could go up to 21m for him but unlikely. The most I see from the Lakers is probably 15m ish. If another team makes an offer and we match the most he gets for 2 years is the mid level exception. |
Yeah. I don't see 22 million as his value at all. He might get like an Avery Bradley / Iman Shumpert kind of deal. I see him at like 8 to 12 million. |
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DrumR Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:18 am Post subject: |
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ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
He's not getting 22m next year. lakers could go up to 21m for him but unlikely. The most I see from the Lakers is probably 15m ish. If another team makes an offer and we match the most he gets for 2 years is the mid level exception. |
Yeah. I don't see 22 million as his value at all. He might get like an Avery Bradley / Iman Shumpert kind of deal. I see him at like 8 to 12 million. |
You all do realize there's very specific limits on the amount of money Clarkson can make and be offered. Right? Jeeze. Best part is if someone tries to poison pill us it would actually be a favor with the cap leaping up. We're in the drivers seat with him and he wants to be a Laker. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:25 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
He's not getting 22m next year. lakers could go up to 21m for him but unlikely. The most I see from the Lakers is probably 15m ish. If another team makes an offer and we match the most he gets for 2 years is the mid level exception. |
22m/yr? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: |
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15m next year is the equivalent of 11-12m today. Not an outlandish amount. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | 15m next year is the equivalent of 11-12m today. Not an outlandish amount. |
I was asking whats the max clarkson can earn next yr and after that?
I thought it was MLE money? |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:43 am Post subject: |
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While it's theoretically possible for the Lakers to offer him a 4 year-$90 million deal, the most any other team can offer him is about $50-55 (roughly 5+5+20+20) million over those 4 years. He easily worth that so consider that before jumping to deal him. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:54 am Post subject: |
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gng930 wrote: | While it's theoretically possible for the Lakers to offer him a 4 year-$90 million deal, the most any other team can offer him is about $50-55 (roughly 5+5+20+20) million over those 4 years. He easily worth that so consider that before jumping to deal him. |
Ya 50/4 with avg of 12.5 should be fine. Heck how much did ross get? |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
Oh hell no, I wouldn't give Clarkson 1 penny over 8 mil/year. This guy brings nothing else to the table other than scoring on broken and iso plays. with his kind of athleticism and still being a poor defender tells me the guy only cares about scoring, individual stats than helping team win games
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
Oh hell no, I wouldn't give Clarkson 1 penny over 8 mil/year. His guy brings nothing else to the table other than scoring on broken and iso plays. with his kind of athleticism and still being a poor defender tells me the guy only cares about scoring, individual stats than helping team win games |
yupe.
I prefer to see what we can get for him at this deadline tough. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
No one else can offer him that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | Big Game James wrote: | I'm 100% for trading Clarkson. I just don't see him as a $22 million dollar player and that is what I think we will have to offer him to stay. |
Oh hell no, I wouldn't give Clarkson 1 penny over 8 mil/year. His guy brings nothing else to the table other than scoring on broken and iso plays. with his kind of athleticism and still being a poor defender tells me the guy only cares about scoring, individual stats than helping team win games |
yupe.
I prefer to see what we can get for him at this deadline tough. |
You won't get much with a couple of million in salary coming back. Better to wait until the offseason. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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