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 Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:23 pm Post subject: Why the Lakers cannot fire Byron Scott... At least not yet |
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It's because of the cap space and free agent situation. Let's pretend we fire Byron Scott and and hire another coach. There are chances that star proven free agents will not sign with lakers because of the new coach. The lakers would rather wait till beginning of off season to fire Byron. Sign the free agents and than get a coach to their liking.
In the mean time we are stuck with Byron |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| We can fire him and have an interim coach. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Why the Lakers cannot fire Byron Scott... At least not yet |
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| LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | It's because of the cap space and free agent situation. Let's pretend we fire Byron Scott and and hire another coach. There are chances that star proven free agents will not sign with lakers because of the new coach. The lakers would rather wait till beginning of off season to fire Byron. Sign the free agents and than get a coach to their liking.
In the mean time we are stuck with Byron |
That's why you stop hiring dumb coaches.
If the Lakers think they can bring Byron into another FA meeting then they deserve to strike out again.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Thought you were gonna say it's cuz he's under the FO's directive to tank, lol. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm putting myself in the mindset of a potential free agent next summer. I watch this dysfunctional Lakers team with inept coaching, suspect management, and unproven youngsters. Hmm...well they do have cap space, but then again so does pretty much every other team in the league. Decisions, decisions... |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| With the FO's track record in coaching hires, I have full confidence that we will hire either Mike Dunleavy or Mark Jackson. |
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PassTheBooze
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Just fire his ass already. It's sickening how he handles this team. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I woudn't be surprised if Byron's fired by the end of the week honestly. Anybody can see that he's trash and the team is showing very little improvement. Shame we don't have a back to back in Cleveland tomorrow. That might have sealed it. |
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nickuku
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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The sooner we cut the cancer the better. Having him around at this point is toxic. Its toxic to the fanbase and worst of all its toxic to the players.
In the words of SAS regarding Kwame. "when you take to the fact that you're replacing nothing, that makes you something".
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The reason we can't fire him is that his job is to lose. Top-3 pick or nothin' this year. |
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nickuku
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| E=MC² wrote: | | The reason we can't fire him is that his job is to lose. Top-3 pick or nothin' this year. |
Its not worth having him around for another year just so we can have another 15% higher shot at keep our pick. He is THAT bad for our players.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| The huge issue is the fact if we fire Byron Scott, our interim coach would probably be Paul Pressey, who has been with Scott pretty much in since 2007. This means you're not gonna get much change because he's part of the problem too. Then we know most great candidates aren't going to take over a team during the season. The longer the Lakers wait, the less likely it will happen. We have no creative viable candidates as assistant coaches on our bench that I trust. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Perceptor wrote: | | The huge issue is the fact if we fire Byron Scott, our interim coach would probably be Paul Pressey, who has been with Scott pretty much in since 2007. This means you're not gonna get much change because he's part of the problem too. Then we know most great candidates aren't going to take over a team during the season. The longer the Lakers wait, the less likely it will happen. We have no creative viable candidates as assistant coaches on our bench that I trust. |
Its not just what Byron does in the game its also the (bleep) he spews after the games. The contradictions, the double standards, the throwing people under the bus, all that (bleep) needs to go. Cut off the problem and bandage it from there.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| petergr wrote: | Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
4th worst record odds are lower than that - the two teams on Tankathon are tied so they gave them both 3rd worst odds |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| petergr wrote: | Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
This is why I'm not on the tank brigade this year. That is not a great chance to keep the pick by any standard.
Keep rooting for those losses and it'll bite you in the ass...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | petergr wrote: | Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
4th worst record odds are lower than that - the two teams on Tankathon are tied so they gave them both 3rd worst odds |
I see...good point...good catch on my source as well  |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | petergr wrote: | Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
4th worst record odds are lower than that - the two teams on Tankathon are tied so they gave them both 3rd worst odds |
We GOTTA lose our game against Philly on Dec. 1st.
Could mean a 10% chance difference of keeping our pick.
Gotta get something out of the cluster (bleep) season.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I honestly think that we'd be better off with a coach that just got the hell out of the way. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Fire Byron immediately and let Madsen interim it please |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| dood23 wrote: | | petergr wrote: | Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%
I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.
Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs. |
This is why I'm not on the tank brigade this year. That is not a great chance to keep the pick by any standard.
Keep rooting for those losses and it'll bite you in the ass... |
I would take 65% or 55% odds with a bottom 2 record versus a 30% chance with the 5th worst record. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | I honestly think that we'd be better off with a coach that just got the hell out of the way. |
Another Weekend at Bernie's please.
Even though the second movie sucked compared to the first.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | I honestly think that we'd be better off with a coach that just got the hell out of the way. |
Another Weekend at Bernie's please.
Even though the second movie sucked compared to the first. |
I joked around with my brother that a cardboard cut-out of Byron would do a better job. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | I honestly think that we'd be better off with a coach that just got the hell out of the way. |
Another Weekend at Bernie's please.
Even though the second movie sucked compared to the first. |
I joked around with my brother that a cardboard cut-out of Byron would do a better job. |
The whole team would be playing darts in the locker room with that cutout.
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | I honestly think that we'd be better off with a coach that just got the hell out of the way. |
Another Weekend at Bernie's please.
Even though the second movie sucked compared to the first. |
I joked around with my brother that a cardboard cut-out of Byron would do a better job. |
Byron from 1970 would do a better job. |
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