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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:07 am    Post subject:

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Fire Byron immediately and let Madsen interim it please


Yeah give Madsen a chance to see if he has potential. He sucked in summer league tho
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:09 am    Post subject:

Lakers are going to ride Byron out until the end of the season, there's no point in wasting money on another head coach, this season is lost.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:11 am    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
22 wrote:
Fire Byron immediately and let Madsen interim it please


Yeah give Madsen a chance to see if he has potential. He sucked in summer league tho


Has Byron ever taken the fall for his players like Madsen did?



That alone makes me more forgiving about any bumps he comes across.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:14 am    Post subject:

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Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%

I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.

Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs.


4th worst record odds are lower than that - the two teams on Tankathon are tied so they gave them both 3rd worst odds


I see...good point...good catch on my source as well


Lol I am on there every day. I am on Tankathon every,day. It is, November..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:46 am    Post subject:

Scott makes Lakers look so bad that no free agent will want to join us.

Fire him and promote Metta as a plyer-coach. Well, better coach-player. Tell him, he should teach the team to play D and that's it. Kobe will teach them how to play O.

If Scott wil stay, then this is another tankjob of the management. That's just bad attitude. Especially with just slim chances we have for keeping the pick.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject:

Firing Byron mid-season would just be a terrible look for the organization. You don't do that to one of your own, especially in a season where it was clear from the get-go that the team wasn't going anywhere but in circles.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:50 am    Post subject:

How about fire Scott and make Kobe the coach that way we can hear his post game interviews saying he could drop 90 points at will and average 50 points per game if he was still playing... even though he can barely hit the rim
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:51 am    Post subject:

Aren't we still paying MDA? Have him come back... or just let Kobe be a player/coach lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:01 am    Post subject:

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Aren't we still paying MDA? Have him come back... or just let Kobe be a player/coach lol.

I think we are still paying Mike Brown.. .. Scott is not getting fired this season. Our entire focus needs to be trying to keep our pick..and develop our young players.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject:

Isn't Rudy T still on the payroll too?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:09 am    Post subject:

22 wrote:
Fire Byron immediately and let Madsen interim it please


Exactly what should happen.

Let the big free agents have input on the next coach.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:13 am    Post subject:

miamichico305 wrote:
silkwilkes wrote:
Aren't we still paying MDA? Have him come back... or just let Kobe be a player/coach lol.

I think we are still paying Mike Brown.. .. Scott is not getting fired this season. Our entire focus needs to be trying to keep our pick..and develop our young players.


No, we stopped paying MB when he went back to coach the Cavs the second time.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Why the Lakers cannot fire Byron Scott... At least not yet

LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
It's because of the cap space and free agent situation. Let's pretend we fire Byron Scott and and hire another coach. There are chances that star proven free agents will not sign with lakers because of the new coach. The lakers would rather wait till beginning of off season to fire Byron. Sign the free agents and than get a coach to their liking.

In the mean time we are stuck with Byron


I would prioritize getting the coach first. One with a philosophy and team identity concept that is the most favorable, then sign free agents that support the philosophy and team identity. With that approach, it makes sense to fire the current coach now in order to start laying out the foundation sooner. We can also start weeding out players that don't fit the team philosophy and concept, and start signing FAs or drafting prospects that do. Also, in that way, if you have young prospects, you set their foundation from the beginning.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:19 am    Post subject:

Won't free agents actually be more willing to come knowing Scott isn't around anymore? Am sure people around the league talk about how awful the Lakers are and the way they are being run by Scott. So I think not firing him will be much worse for potential free agents than letting him stay on
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:24 am    Post subject:

No free agent is coming to Los Angeles while Byron is still the head coach. The Lakers need to do the right thing and fire him. Get someone in here who doesn't need to be great by any means, but will at least stay out of the way. Not have moronic rotations and will utilize the skill sets of this young group of players.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:57 am    Post subject:

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Firing Byron mid-season would just be a terrible look for the organization. You don't do that to one of your own, especially in a season where it was clear from the get-go that the team wasn't going anywhere but in circles.

The losing isn't the issue...how we are losing, is.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:37 am    Post subject:

Kobewood wrote:
Firing Byron mid-season would just be a terrible look for the organization.


And what look do we have at the moment exactly?

You do what is best for the team.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:10 am    Post subject:

They can't fire him because he's on pace to secure a top 2 pick. That's worth keeping him around for the season.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:15 am    Post subject:

I am really not a fan of how BS has been handling the team in particular with the rotations, but this season is lost, so if it's lost we might as well be really bad move Byron out when KB retires.

Honestly it almost seems BS was brought on board to ensure KB plays out the season and gets plenty of opportunities to dominate the ball so he might show the fans a glimpse now and then. Based on his current play Kobe deserves to be moved to the bench and have his minutes slashed drastically like 20 or less.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:30 am    Post subject:

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We can fire him and have an interim coach.


Yup.

Not about getting a long-term coach who will miraculously right the ship and we go on a run and win the championship.

It's more about preventing permanent scars/damages from Scott with the rookies, and ingraining bad habits/thoughts that will need to be painfully remedied by the next coach.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:31 am    Post subject:

Kobewood wrote:
Firing Byron mid-season would just be a terrible look for the organization. You don't do that to one of your own, especially in a season where it was clear from the get-go that the team wasn't going anywhere but in circles.


The FO legitimately thought we'd be in the hunt for the 8th seed, or at the very least, in the 8-10th seed pocket.

I disagree that there were emanations of this team being this bad. This has a lot to do with the "coaching."
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:33 am    Post subject:

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It's more about preventing permanent scars/damages from Scott with the rookies, and ingraining bad habits/thoughts that will need to be painfully remedied by the next coach.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:34 am    Post subject:

Kinda sounds familiar.

Fire Brown
Fire D'Antoni
Fire Scott

You could get Riley, Phil and dig Auerbach up from the grave and they would probably get the same results. You usually get this with a bunch of babies and a few old folks.

Welcome to rebuilding and not retooling.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 am    Post subject:

I don't think Byron will be fired this year.

- He's a perfect tank commander
- He gives cover to the Busses in a rebuilding year
- Kobe seems to like Byron

I think we ride with Byron for the year, and then unload him after the season. That's my hope, anyways.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:01 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
petergr wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
petergr wrote:
Odds of Top-3 pick with worst record: 65%
Odds of Top-3 pick with second worst record: 55%
Odds of Top-3 pick with 3rd or 4th worst record: 45%

I don't see Lakers finishing better than 4th worst record. Current worst 4 teams:
1) 76ers: Couple of key players are returning from injuries...that could improve them.
2) Lakers.
3) Nets...No incentive to tank as they don't have their pick for the next 3 years.
4) Pelicans...Tyreke is returning this week...they are trying to win now.

Every other team has atleast 5 wins and have a shot at play-offs.


4th worst record odds are lower than that - the two teams on Tankathon are tied so they gave them both 3rd worst odds


I see...good point...good catch on my source as well


Lol I am on there every day. I am on Tankathon every,day. It is, November..


You're ahead of your time KIROE. Or at least, ahead of the LG mods. Not to worry, the Tank thread will brought back to life one way or another.
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